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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:18 PM Apr 2022

Le Pen: "The policies I represent are the policies represented by Mr Putin"

Le Pen has urged withdrawal from NATO and praises Brexit. If she defeats Macron in what appears to be a tightening election, the entire balance of power will shift in Europe -- toward Putin.


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Le Pen: "The policies I represent are the policies represented by Mr Putin" (Original Post) mainer Apr 2022 OP
A wholly owned puppet of Russia. dalton99a Apr 2022 #1
Wow. That seems unlikely to garner votes when Europe is in mortal danger from Pootin. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #2
How many voters are going to see five year old video clip on Twitter? brooklynite Apr 2022 #4
A lot if it were to trend ck4829 Apr 2022 #7
Macron has to win. K/R appalachiablue Apr 2022 #3
His campaign so far has been fairly shambolic. Aloof, disinterested, not Celerity Apr 2022 #10
Depending on what you read, Macron started campaigning appalachiablue Apr 2022 #17
Europe is not like the US. Especially a nation like France. Centre Right cannot Celerity Apr 2022 #19
If they don't turn out for Macron, they'll have to deal appalachiablue Apr 2022 #20
I hope they hold their nose and vote for Macron. IF MLP wins, the shit is going to truly hit the fan Celerity Apr 2022 #21
Campaigning on raising the retirement age? leftstreet Apr 2022 #11
Her popularity is terrifying. And I'll bet my house that it's the result Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #5
K&R to the infinite power n/t MerryHolidays Apr 2022 #6
K&R, lets pray Macron can use this as a stoke in France. Might work for MAGAstanians here uponit7771 Apr 2022 #8
+1 appalachiablue Apr 2022 #18
21st Century Vichy French. House of Roberts Apr 2022 #9
I agree rockfordfile Apr 2022 #12
I don't even want to think about her winning. Boomerproud Apr 2022 #13
Putin is trying to destroy the Democratic Order and make the world more dangerous... DSandra Apr 2022 #14
She cannot be allowed to take office. roamer65 Apr 2022 #15
Why didn't France kick her f out? rockfordfile Apr 2022 #16
Hopefully Melenchon is in top two. David__77 Apr 2022 #22
Another Putin 'partner' BlueWavePsych Apr 2022 #23

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. Wow. That seems unlikely to garner votes when Europe is in mortal danger from Pootin.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:23 PM
Apr 2022

Good luck with that, asshole.

Celerity

(43,380 posts)
10. His campaign so far has been fairly shambolic. Aloof, disinterested, not
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:04 PM
Apr 2022

a good look at all.

Almost all the French in my age cohort that I speak to hate him (he is far too right for most), they just hate Nazi-ette Le Pen more.

Even some of the older French people I know are far from motivated enough.

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
17. Depending on what you read, Macron started campaigning
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:21 PM
Apr 2022

more actively after these recent polls came out. Step on the gas.. I know that his centrist positions and background in finance and banking turn off some on the Left. But the alternative is a nightmare. A win for Le Pen's nationalism would clearly be a major feat for fascism and Pootin. I can't imagine..

Celerity

(43,380 posts)
19. Europe is not like the US. Especially a nation like France. Centre Right cannot
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:37 PM
Apr 2022

win elections over and over, as they cause massive apathy, if not outright hostility, which the far right tries to take advantage of.

It is impossible to try and place a US template over France. The nation is not nearly so under the corporate rapacious, rentier capitalist whiphand as the US is.

If you snapped your fingers and made the ACA (let alone the Rethug dystopian nightmare option of 'fuck it, sunk or swim and we are praying you sink') the healthcare law of the land there, you would have nationwide general strikes and riots for weeks, likely longer. Same here in Sweden and many other EU nations.

IF MLP nightmarishly, disastrously, somehow wins, the lion's share of the blame goes to Macron and the neoliberal centre right/more right.

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
20. If they don't turn out for Macron, they'll have to deal
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:22 PM
Apr 2022

with the consequences of far right rule. France isn't the only place where neoliberal politicians, esp. center Democrats are disliked.

FTR, I'm familiar with European culture and politics, have travelled to France several times, lived in England for university.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220407-jean-luc-m%C3%A9lenchon-the-veteran-leftist-standing-in-way-of-macron-le-pen-rematch

Celerity

(43,380 posts)
21. I hope they hold their nose and vote for Macron. IF MLP wins, the shit is going to truly hit the fan
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 07:29 PM
Apr 2022

across the EU.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
5. Her popularity is terrifying. And I'll bet my house that it's the result
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:29 PM
Apr 2022

of Russian propaganda being aimed at the French through Facebook and other irresponsible social media platforms.

Just like they did to us in 2016 through Cambridge Analytica.

House of Roberts

(5,170 posts)
9. 21st Century Vichy French.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:44 PM
Apr 2022

If Le Pen were to pull France out of NATO, all the same sanctions on Russia should immediately apply to France, as they should apply to every ally of Russia.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
13. I don't even want to think about her winning.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:10 PM
Apr 2022

It's too much to bear. The consequences would be felt everywhere.

DSandra

(999 posts)
14. Putin is trying to destroy the Democratic Order and make the world more dangerous...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:12 PM
Apr 2022

for ethnic minorities and women, and extremely dangerous for LGBT people.

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