Unless the system is fixed - the next republican president

[samsingh]

with a republican senate or house will destroy American democracy forever.

[PJMcK]

1. Yep (n/t)

[Hoyt]

2. Not as pessimistic. We stopped trump once, will do it again

whether trump or a cult member runs.

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4. if donnie or a cultist wins in 2024, then we will have not stopped them.

we will have merely delayed their takeover by 4 years.

if somehow a semi-reasonable republican were to win and disavow their extremist tactics, democracy could survive. but that's effectively impossible given today's republican party.

another 4 years of donnie's brand of extremism would normalize that kind of politics, and we're doomed if that happens. democracy can only survive if that is an anomaly.

[Hoyt]

7. It's 2022. More worried about midterms.

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8. fair point, though this thread is about the next republican president so...

[Hoyt]

9. Sorry. Just not for letting trump continue to control my outlook.

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10. sadly virtually all republicans are cut from the same cloth these days.

they're trapped in an ideology of foxnews' making.

donnie was nothing special, really. he was just the canonical curmudgeon who gets his entire political outlook straight from foxnews. such people are a dime a dozen these days, and the next republican president would in all likelihood be a more competent and more extreme version of donnie.

i can think of only one republican who might not be an immediate, complete disaster, and that's rmoney (he'd a bad, but not necessarily and end to democracy kind of bad), and he has zero chance of getting nominated in today's republican party.

[Amishman]

11. We were lucky the Pubs were only interested in their tax cut, they could have made their move in 17

They could have filled those scotus seats, packed the court more if they didn't trust Roberts, removed the legislative filibuster, and passed anything they wanted.

We were lucky they didn't seem to want to do it, and were content with their tax fuckery.

We stopped them only because they chose to let the clock run out. Are you confident they will do that again?

[Hoyt]

12. I'm confident we can beat trumpism, as we did in 2020.

trump would not have been elected in 2020 if just enough Democrats hadn’t thrown a fit because their guy lost the primaries.

If trump or someone like him wins, it’s voters fault.

[unblock]

3. i doubt they would even need even one house of congress

they'll have enough to prevent a veto override and that's all they really need.

the next republican president would continue donnie's efforts to corrupt the federal bureacracy. the usps would throw away ballots from certain locations. the irs would effectively announce that the rich no longer need to pay taxes, except for certain democrats. the entire election process would be corrupted, or at least the states would be given the green light to corrupt their elections.

between that and the relentless propaganda, our democracy would never recover. well, maybe in a few decades....

[SmallFry]

6. This This This

the next republican president would continue donnie's efforts to corrupt the federal bureacracy.

[uponit7771]

16. +1,

[SmallFry]

5. Then keep working to fix the system.

I believe we will beat back the rise of fascist tendencies we are witnessing. The next election is important.

[Dan]

13. I look at it this way,

If the GOP wins, then they will get what they asked for….but I seriously doubt that it will be what they want!

[TheProle]

14. What a dismal and unproductive viewpoint.

The danger to democracy is there, but sweeping statements distract us from seeing specific issues and actions that will prevent the destruction you fear.

I get that this may be venting or some other kind of catharsis for you, but what are people supposed to do with this?

Itemize the systemic failings and attack them each in turn.

[uponit7771]

17. It's not false, at some point we have to admit the GZP is authoritarian organization and not ....

... interested in democracy.

what more do they have to do to show people this?

[Zeitghost]

15. We have survived Republican Presidencies in the past

And we will survive them in the future. We have a long history of taking two steps forward and one step back. Things are far better now than when I was born and even better still from when my parents were born. We will continue to progress as a country and as a culture.

[samsingh]

19. past republican presidencies were nothing like the traitorous garbage they have today

when Reagan was asked for another 8 years - e.g. ignore the constitution - his immediate response was to decline. When McCain was asked to attack Obama on election night - he called Obama a great American with a different way of doing things.

Today we have the repug leaders lying about election outcomes, accusing Democrats of the very crimes they themselves are committing, and taking money from foreign enemies.

And as importantly, voter suppression in red states is beyond the tipping points. The will of the voters is not being counted anymore. If the repugs can do the same federally, and further corrupt the supreme court, there are no political levers to turn back.

[demtenjeep]

18. will be the last

and this is not hyperboli

[samsingh]

20. agreed