Texas Woman Charged With Murder for 'Illegal Abortion'

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A Starr County, Texas, woman was arrested and charged with murder on Thursday after authorities said she performed an “illegal abortion,” according to KVEO. Lizelle Herrera, 26, was arrested in connection with a “self-induced abortion,” a Starr County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson told the network. The office decided to pursue the arrest after it was told she “intentionally and knowingly caused the death of an individual by self-induced abortion.” No further details on the case were immediately available. Herrera’s being held on a $500,000 bond, and the case is still being investigated. The case comes as Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has taken a hard anti-abortion stance, passing legislation banning the procedure after six weeks.



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https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/starr-county-woman-arrested-for-self-induced-abortion/

[VMA131Marine]

1. And so the oppression of women continues ...

This is likely to end up at the Supreme Court.

[SharonClark]

2. You can bet that Abbott is celebrating tonight.

[qazplm135]

3. Time for all women to leave Texas

and the men who love them.

Vote with your feet.

If millions leave, it will have an impact.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. This is sick

How can a medical or self induced abortion be illegal

[gratuitous]

5. Sounds like Herrera is forcing the issue

"Is this the result you really want, Texas voters?" The answer just might be yes.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. This comment reads like Herrera did this on purpose to be a test case. Is that what you are saying?

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13. The story isn't very detailed

But that's the impression I got from reading the excerpt.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. What gives you that impression?

I'm not trying to nail you to the wall. I'm curious what you see that makes this read like an activist getting pregnant on purpose and then trying to get arrested versus a person self-managing an abortion.

[gratuitous]

21. As I said, the details are pretty light

But the circumspect way the report says they decided to arrest Herrera after they were told about this incident. Who told the cops? As for Herrera, the story doesn't specifically say she was pregnant, but that she was involved in self-induced abortion. It doesn't say it was her, and leaves open the question of whether it was her own pregnancy or if she maybe procured mifepristone for someone else. In any event, it's not clear from this story how the authorities became aware of the situation. Too many questions, not enough facts, and it just seems to me that Herrera may have called the authorities herself for getting an abortifacient on someone else's behalf.

[LeftInTX]

25. And distributing the pills would be crime in Texas over seven weeks

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I'm thinking she maybe provided them for someone else.

Also if something happened to the woman who took them, is another issue.

Details are very scant..


The only person Texas would have a chance of prosecuting would be the pregnant woman, and the law explicitly says that isn’t an option.”

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-medication-abortion-pill-ban-ineffective/

I don't think she's "challenging the vigilante law"...The law that people would be "challenging" would be a "civil law". That law would allow any citizen to sue you, not charge you with a crime.

[Girard442]

7. Wait until all the OB/GYNs in TX realize that every time one of their patients miscarrys...

...law enforcement will put a mark into a ledger. When there are enough marks, they will become targets. And if you're an OB/GYN specializing in problem pregnancies, you're toast.

Lots of luck women, when your only available health care provider is a pregnancy crisis center.

[Rebl2]

15. Exactly

[keithbvadu2]

20. And then to find out it is a sham pregnancy crisis center run by right wingers.

And then to find out it is a sham pregnancy crisis center run by right wingers.

[Ohio Joe]

8. So many here predicted this...

And the repugs denied it... We see now their intent was as expected.

[Buckeyeblue]

9. This case will come down to the SC's abortion ruling in June

Uphold Roe and this probably goes away. Overturn Roe and this will become the new reality in some states.

[ShazzieB]

12. I'm going to be a nervous wreck waiting for this ruling to come down.

I'll be expecting the worst while wishing like hell for something better.

[Buckeyeblue]

29. I think it'll be as bad as we can imagine

And when Beer-Boy writes a concurrent, or joins the majority, opinion overturning Roe, Susan Collins will be concerned. And will have some explaining to do.

[madinmaryland]

10. Fuck you, Abbott!

[UTUSN]

11. How many abortions did Drumpf & Shrub pay for? - those are for the fatcats

[in2herbs]

17. Good point. Is there a statute of limitations written into the law?? Generally there is no statute

of limitations for murder and that is what they have charged her with. So those women who got abortions that Trump paid for can turn him in. Wouldn't it be ironic that TFG finally goes to prison on an abortion issue???

[UTUSN]

18. Right now our heroine is only E. Jean CARROLL still fighting the good fight

[CaptainTruth]

14. Their real agenda: Prevent the "wrong" women from voting.

Or as I said on Twitter...

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[Martin68]

19. This the ultimate escalation in the war against female control of their own bodies and health.

Texas is Handmaiden Central.

[progressoid]

22. Fuck.

Assholes.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. Today a 26-year-old Texas woman who allegedly self-induced an abortion has been charged with murder.

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

24. For this thread

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[uponit7771]

26. Texas is a text book dictatorship, it'll get worse for women and other minorities in that state soon

[superpatriotman]

27. K&R

I blame the Texas voters and the churches.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

28. Protesters at Starr County Jail after Lizelle Herrera's arrest

It is great seeing boots on the ground in Starr County. A protest was organized very quickly and this protest needs to grow

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Rockie Gonzalez is the founder and board chairwoman for Frontera Fund which provides financial assistance to low-income women seeking an abortion in the Rio Grande Valley.
She is on a call with me tonight as this story develops.
Rockie, what was Frontera Fund’s initial reaction to hearing about this case.

Well, our first response was to get on the phone together and begin to strategize. This is, as far as we know, one of the first sort of post-SB8 arrests. And we know that it’s a developing story so we don’t have a lot of the details. They’re kind of coming in as we’re monitoring the situation. But currently, we’re assembling all of our legal teams and our allies and other advocates across the states and nationally for support. And so we’re looking at, you know, trying to get in touch with the family and make sure that she has, you know, supportive legal representation, and we are hosting an action outside the Starr County Jail tomorrow to demand her immediate release.....

Frontera Fund has quickly put together a political action in response to this. You’ll be at the Starr County Jail tomorrow morning protesting Herrer’s arrest. What do you hope to communicate to people tomorrow? What message do you want them to take away?

We would like for people to know that it is unjust for medical staff to betray this kind of confidence and that the legislation that Governor Abbott has put forth and tried to push in this state is making it so that innocent people are being harmed. And we want people to know that this type of legislation impacts low income people of color communities the most when state legislators put restrictions on our reproductive rights. It’s not well-to-do people with health insurance that are most impacted. It’s poor people and low in communities, generally from people of color communities who suffer the impacts of these kinds of legislations.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. Texas woman faces murder charge after 'self-induced abortion'

The Chroncile have some additional facts. I do not understand how this lady broke the law

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A 26-year-old woman has been charged with murder in Texas after authorities said she caused “the death of an individual by self-induced abortion,” in a state that has the most restrictive abortion laws in the U.S.....

Delgado did not say under what law Herrera has been charged. He said no other information will be released until at least Monday because the case remains under investigation.

Texas law exempts her from a criminal homicide charge for aborting her own pregnancy, University of Texas law professor Stephen Vladeck told The Associated Press.

“(Homicide) doesn’t apply to the murder of an unborn child if the conduct charged is ‘conduct committed by the mother of the unborn child,’” Vladeck said......

A 2021 state law that bans abortions in Texas for women who are as early as six weeks pregnant has sharply curtailed the number of abortions in the state. The law leaves enforcement to private citizens who can sue doctors or anyone who helps a woman get an abortion.

The woman receiving the abortion is exempted from the law.

There is no Texas statute that allows for this lady to be charged This case will be dismissed before it gets to trial or this case will not survive a motion to dismiss

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. Five Texas DAs, has issued a statement condemning Texas' efforts to criminalize abortion

These district attorneys make me proud of the legal profession in Texas. I know one of the DAs and he is a good man. These District Attorneys have pledged not to prosecute any women who has an abortion

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