Something I don't understand about the Train Station rocket attack.

[WarGamer]

We all saw the pics and it's horrific.

Most of the pictures were pixelated to cover their gruesome nature.

In all of them I noticed, next to the dead bodies were suitcases and personal effects that appeared to be untouched, completely unscathed by any blast.

No, I'm not going "Conspiracy Theorist" or anything like that... it's just the Engineer in me asking "What happened"??

If it weren't for the blood, I'd think they were poisoned, like a chemical attack.

Ideas?

[Kingofalldems]

1. Except the blood says they weren't poisoned.

[WarGamer]

2. As I noted...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Luggage reacts to concussion differently than internal organs and the human brain.

Underwear and socks don’t bruise or bleed.

[smirkymonkey]

4. It does seem strange.

They look completely untouched.

[Strelnikov_]

5. Explosions kill humans by over-pressure

We are basically sacks of fluid. Hit us with a sudden 4x pressure, it's all she wrote. Internal bleeding.

[WarGamer]

6. Wouldn't knock over a suitcase or back pack?

I was thinking a pressure wave... or shrapnel but both of those would have damaged other objects.

Could the personal effects have been brought there by evacuees AFTER the blast?

[Strelnikov_]

9. No. Pressure is pressure. May not create wind

That is why FAE's were developed. Buildings remain intact, humans are killed.

This may well have been an FAE.

[WarGamer]

10. horrific.

Attacking a humanitarian target with a FAE...

evil.

[Strelnikov_]

11. Yep. But war is war. Thats why we need to make all efforts turn it off ASAP n/t

[WarGamer]

13. I think the only thing that's going to end it sooner than later is negotiations.

That aside... I trust the NSA assessment that this thing will be measured in years.

[KS Toronado]

24. Don't believe it'll last years

My crystal ball sees Ukrainians using drones going into Russia to take out all their armored vehicles and supply
trucks while they're trying to regroup. Plus getting Putler's new 120,000 conscripts rounded up and on the front
lines while transporting everything to eastern UKR should be problematic for them while being constantly
attacked by drones especially the ones with night vision. 2 months and Russia gives up. IMO.

[Raine]

7. Strollers and stuffed toys just heartbreaking. 💔😥 nt

[WarGamer]

8. fucking awful...

War seems all noble when it's in a book or a movie but IRL it's just disgusting, a real portrait of human depravity.

Makes me embarrassed to be the same species.

[AndyS]

12. I believe this was a cluster munition.

One missile releases a number of small 'grenades' that spread shrapnel. That would explain the lack of massive damage to the building. The shrapnel in modern anti-personnel weapons is very small, perhaps .125 inch in diameter. The WWII "pineapple" grenades only had 80 or so pieces of shrapnel that were close to half inch diameter the new grenades are wrapped with serrated wire that produce many times the number of projectiles that are much smaller and much faster penetrating deeper into flesh. The new design produces multiple wounds much like puncture wounds that are much harder to treat. These tiny particles wouldn't make obvious damage to the luggage and personal effects.

Dear God, I know way too much about this shit.

[WarGamer]

14. wow... that's just... I mean really no words.

I'm really bothered by the stroller... wondering if a baby was inside... and that stuffed animal...

Maybe time to tune out for a few days.

[Straw Man]

19. That is correct.

It was a cluster bomb -- an anti-personnel device that spreads shrapnel. Think of it as dozens of 360° shotgun blasts, spreading buckshot in all directions. They could easily pass through or embed in objects like suitcases without doing much obvious damage, but in a human body the effect is catastrophic and deadly.

But you can expect the Russians to try to use the photos to spin the "crisis actor" excuse.

[Strelnikov_]

20. So, they intentionally dropped an anti-personnel device on non-combatants fleeing a war zone

Can't even claim they were trying to knock out a transportation link (HE), and the weapon went off course.

If this is not a war crime . . .

Wonder what Marine LePen thinks about her besty Putin causing this war crime?

[uponit7771]

21. LePen will act as she doesn't know Putrid

[Beastly Boy]

15. The picture may not be of the blast area.

Although I see something that looks like a blood stain towards the lower middle part of the photo.

Just by looking at the photo and not knowing anything about it, the most rational explanation would be that the area is some distance away from the blast, where one person was killed or injured, and the rest abandoned their belongings and ran for their lives.

[Journeyman]

18. That was my thought . . .

either a distance away from the blast, and people just dropped and ran, in which case the blood may be from someone who stumbled by later. Or it was close enough for shrapnel to be flung out and hit people and belongings, but far enough away for the blast to not cause too great of damage.

[Pachamama]

16. Shrapnel

The missiles exploded mid air releasing multiple other bombs that then had upon exploding amd hitting released shrapnel.

Think also to the Boston Marathon bombing.

Blows off limbs and kills horrifically

[Hoyt]

17. Always skeptical of news stories during war. Vietnam and Iraq lessons.

[mainer]

22. Injuries from bomb blasts can be purely internal

Barotrauma can cause lung collapse and internal damage with strangely few obvious physical injuries. Even if the body suffers no external injuries from flying shrapnel, the concussive power can kill you.

[bluestarone]

23. What i thought was strange, was no hole in the ground?

Like some stated above, it detonated above ground? That's the only answer i have. I believe that NOW is the time to get supplies into Ukraine, because the Russian troops moved to East. (I'm 100% sure Joe's team know this)

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. From what I can tell, there are no bodies AT ALL in this picture.

Which would mean they've been removed, so the scene is not "untouched" by investigation standards. It's probably not unreasonable to assume that things have been moved, shifted, stood upright, and otherwise corrupted.