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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToday a 26-year-old Texas woman who allegedly self-induced an abortion has been charged with murder.
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BruceWane
(345 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)It is beyond horrible.
These people who voted for and who support this draconian "law" must be voted out and this "law" must be reversed.
I am sick to see any woman who is charged with "murder" under these circumstances.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)but maybe she volunteered. Good for her if she took the risk that some court will overturn this atrocity.
Texas is the worst DP state, but hopefully they won't hit her with that.
If they do, death row for an abortion? And we call Russians brutal?
However it works out, both sides will be storming the gates with money and opinion. Lawyers are lining up and ordering toner.
The best we can hope for is that this starts a huge backlash against the antiabortionists. If she's sympathetic enough, it could be a tidal wave.
LeftInTX
(25,363 posts)I'm sure the DA is a Democrat.(However, Eddie Lucio was the architect of the abortion pill ban and he's a freak'n Democrat himself)
I wonder if this is like that case in Indiana after the woman had a miscarriage from taking abortion pills?
She was thrown in prison for murder, but it sure didn't help Indiana turn blue! Pence was governor and he was elected VP the next year.
I wonder if abortion pills were involved? The other "law" is a civil law. The abortion pill ban might have criminal penalties, but I assumed those were for doctors themselves. I wonder if she provided the pills to someone? Or did she take them herself?
There are scant details.
Maraya1969
(22,482 posts)pill is is illegal Texas but you can buy them online. I would hope people are buying them in bulk and handing them out to young girls and women who may need them, (and not tell the authorities)
Mariana
(14,857 posts)It does not cause an abortion. It is contraception.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,355 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)to be a test case.
Sounds crazy, but this is a crazy situation.
Hekate
(90,705 posts)Ever since college. Ever since a $5 donation was a big deal.
I never needed their services Im one of the lucky ones who always had some kind of health care for myself. My dads union Kaiser Health Plan ensured I could go to the Kaiser clinic and get birth control pills, and when I got married and had my 2 kids my husband was in the Hotel and Restaurant Workers Union and Kaiser covered all of us. My second (and final) husband ended up covered by the Teachers Union.
I knew I was lucky then and I know it now and I am in tears because why should life-saving medical services depend on LUCK?
Right Wingers are fanatics and they are monsters.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)Maraya1969
(22,482 posts)Maraya1969
(22,482 posts)oasis
(49,388 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)Ziggysmom
(3,407 posts)But January 6 insurrectionist Robert Sanford, a white man, is charged with throwing a fire extinguisher into a group of Capitol police officers, striking at least three officers in their heads. He was released on personal recognizance, no collateral needed. Oh wait, he's a MAN and WHITE, they have special privileges!
Liberal In Texas
(13,554 posts)she "self aborted.' Without her testimony, and she certainly has the right to not testify against herself, I don't see the state having a provable case. They could claim she did this but I can't believe they would have ANY evidence to show the court.
Jacked up christo-fascist law. I wish the citizens in the boondocks of this state would get smart and throw the RW crazies, especially Abbott, out of office.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)It is great seeing boots on the ground in Starr County. A protest was organized very quickly and this protest needs to grow
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https://delapabb.medium.com/my-interview-with-la-frontera-funds-rockie-gonzalez-on-lizelle-herrera-s-arrest-in-starr-county-b7a747068d14
She is on a call with me tonight as this story develops.
Rockie, what was Frontera Funds initial reaction to hearing about this case.
Well, our first response was to get on the phone together and begin to strategize. This is, as far as we know, one of the first sort of post-SB8 arrests. And we know that its a developing story so we dont have a lot of the details. Theyre kind of coming in as were monitoring the situation. But currently, were assembling all of our legal teams and our allies and other advocates across the states and nationally for support. And so were looking at, you know, trying to get in touch with the family and make sure that she has, you know, supportive legal representation, and we are hosting an action outside the Starr County Jail tomorrow to demand her immediate release.....
Frontera Fund has quickly put together a political action in response to this. Youll be at the Starr County Jail tomorrow morning protesting Herrers arrest. What do you hope to communicate to people tomorrow? What message do you want them to take away?
We would like for people to know that it is unjust for medical staff to betray this kind of confidence and that the legislation that Governor Abbott has put forth and tried to push in this state is making it so that innocent people are being harmed. And we want people to know that this type of legislation impacts low income people of color communities the most when state legislators put restrictions on our reproductive rights. Its not well-to-do people with health insurance that are most impacted. Its poor people and low in communities, generally from people of color communities who suffer the impacts of these kinds of legislations.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)The Chroncile have some additional facts. I do not understand how this lady broke the law
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Delgado did not say under what law Herrera has been charged. He said no other information will be released until at least Monday because the case remains under investigation.
Texas law exempts her from a criminal homicide charge for aborting her own pregnancy, University of Texas law professor Stephen Vladeck told The Associated Press.
(Homicide) doesnt apply to the murder of an unborn child if the conduct charged is conduct committed by the mother of the unborn child, Vladeck said......
A 2021 state law that bans abortions in Texas for women who are as early as six weeks pregnant has sharply curtailed the number of abortions in the state. The law leaves enforcement to private citizens who can sue doctors or anyone who helps a woman get an abortion.
The woman receiving the abortion is exempted from the law.
There is no Texas statute that allows for this lady to be charged This case will be dismissed before it gets to trial or this case will not survive a motion to dismiss
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)Quixote1818
(28,943 posts)Quixote1818
(28,943 posts)streets all over the country?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)These district attorneys make me proud of the legal profession in Texas. I know one of the DAs and he is a good man. These District Attorneys have pledged not to prosecute any women who has an abortion
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