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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI expect that Putin is behind these horrors on innocent civilians.
He wants the war to become so destructive and horrific that at some point Ukraine will give in so the horrors will stop.
I heard that his war on Chechnya was waged this way and the country is now an empty shell of it's former self with a subservient, broken population.
Right now the horrors create more determination in Ukraine to fight but Chechnya was the same way.
They were very determined at first but he kept pounding innocent civilians continually for years so that finally the country couldn't continue to support the population and had to surrender.
So this will probably continue for years and NATO countries will not be able to stop it because actively waging war could cause a nuclear conflict with Russia.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Russia simply cannot sustain these losses for long. Another year of this and they'll have no proper military left, and no economy. The key is to keep supplying Ukraine, and give them even better weapons to really hurt the invaders.
wnylib
(21,466 posts)FrankTC
(210 posts)Ukraine is getting way more international support than Chechnya, and the Russians are paying a price and will continue to pay it far higher. Last time Russia was considered to be a nascent capitalist democracy or potential democracy. That train has left the station. Now Russia is seen by most people as a fascist pseudo-democratic terror state, not fit for civilized company. Putin might not care if elites cant get oysters. But many Russians will feel the effects. Itll be for them like it was for us in the 1970s you wanted to backpack around Europe, it helped to affix a Canadian flag somewhere on your kit. And the current sanctions will bite much harder.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Putin first misjudged Ukraines determination and hopefully he misjudged the support the world will continue to give Ukraine.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,814 posts)Russia is bleeding out in Ukraine.
But yes, what Pootler did in Chechnya was sickening.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... capitulation strategy for the longest.
Multiple wars the Russian army has done this, from Grozny to Syria to Chechnya to now ...
The fact that the the Russians has gotten away with this is gob smacking
BootinUp
(47,151 posts)They wont have the money to run a war. And they are going to start having major equipment problems.
Plus this isnt Chechnya. hes got a lot more on his now.
EndlessWire
(6,531 posts)then we have time to train all the Ukrainian pilots we want, and all the systems operators they need. Putin may have bitten off more than he can chew.
Putin is the biggest threat to world peace there is right now. He has got to be dealt with.
Emile
(22,763 posts)for all the horrible things that happen in this stupid unnecessary war!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)2naSalit
(86,622 posts)As they were a former soviet district with few resources or access to the rest of the world.
Ukraine has been a country with a robust economy and resources for a generation and the separation from Russia has never been taken lightly.
The proximity to the rest of Europe is an important factor in Ukraine's independence and economic strength. Having been brutalized by Russia numerous times over time, the people there have no fantasies about what is at stake if they do not fight with everything they've got and then some.