I am almost afraid to ask,

[TNNurse]

but does anyone understand why those two faux Democratic senators voted with their colleagues to confirm soon to be Justice Jackson??? They do not have much of a record of being on the correct side of most votes. I thought if the three GOP senators did vote as they said (and they did), it would be 51-49.

[PJMcK]

1. It's 50/50 with them

By voting to confirm Judge Jackson, they can claim (implausibly) that they're Democrats.

Regardless, I'm glad that they voted the way they did. She deserves to be on the Court and our country will be better for her service.

[yardwork]

5. They vote for Biden's legislation 95% (Manchin) and 97% (Sinema) of the time.

See https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/kyrsten-sinema/

[PJMcK]

8. Right you are

Still, Democrats could do much better.

Manchin's ties to the coal industry are disgusting and antiquated.

Sinema's a cipher. She's also fairly stupid.

My opinions, of course.

[yardwork]

12. If you think we can do better in WV and AZ, I'll be glad to help.

It's essential that Democrats retain control of the Senate. With every state getting two senators, that's a lot of red states. It's an uphill battle.

[PJMcK]

13. Once again, you're right, of course

I yearn for progressive Democrats. I know they can't win in WV and AZ let alone in redder states.

Still...

[brush]

16. We can do better in AZ which is trending purple.

Just the fact that Sinema got in posing as an environmental Democrat is testament to that.

AZ Dems are pissed and Ruben Gallego is likely to primary her.

W VA is another matter though, not much chance there.

[yardwork]

17. NC is purpler than AZ and we have two Republican senators.

It's an uphill battle.

[brush]

19. AZ has two Dem senators. That should tell you something.

[mcar]

24. We need to focus on getting Mark Kelly reelected

and worry about Sinema in 2024.

[brush]

25. I agree.

[femmedem]

2. They've both voted for all of Biden's court nominees.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/manchin-sinema-biden-supreme-court/index.html

[FSogol]

6. +1 n/t

[gab13by13]

3. I have a better question to ask,

Why did 10 GQP Senators vote to confirm Merrick Garland as AG, including Ron Johnson?

[yardwork]

4. Manchin votes in favor of Biden's legislation 95% of the time. Sinema votes with Biden 97%.

You might find this interesting: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/kyrsten-sinema/

[FSogol]

7. +1 n/t

[PJMcK]

9. You get good points for your reality check

But I have to ask, do you think they're good Democrats?

[brush]

14. Just not on the big critical bills like BBB that could...

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help millions, not to mention help us Dems keep our majorities in Congress in the mid-terms.

They've both endangered that greatly, and if we lose the majorities, nothing of consequence will be accomplished in Joe Biden's last two years of this term in office.

They've done immeasurable damage.

[yardwork]

15. I'm not arguing with that. However, let's stay with facts, m'kay.

It's not helpful for Democrats to promote the false belief that Manchin and Sinema "never" support any of the Democratic positions. That misinformation leads to hopelessness and despair.

We need to elect more Democratic senators (and representatives) so that we have a safe majority. Promoting the idea that "we can't get anything done" plays into Republican campaign slogans.

[brush]

20. I agree we need more Dem senators. We have no shot...

in replacing Manchin W VA, but we have a good shot in primarying and beating Sinema in AZ though. Dems are pissed there at Sinema's bait-and-switch act. She campaigned as an environmental Dem but on the big Biden/Dem bills critical for us to keep our majorities, she went the other way.

[JohnSJ]

23. +++

[sheshe2]

28. +1

[Shermann]

10. Manchin never met a Supreme Court nominee he didn't like nt

[brush]

11. The 3 GOP vote for here nullified their potential for sabotage...

so they got with the Democratic agenda. Those two are still dangerous though.

[MineralMan]

18. You have not looked at their overall voting record, obviously.

Perhaps you should.

[JohnSJ]

22. +++

[JohnSJ]

21. For anyone aware, both Manchin and Sinema have consistently voted for President Biden's judicial

nominees.

They also give us the majority at this time, and that is why they are essential until we have at least a two seat majority in the Senate

Also you should look at their voting record

[Budi]

26. Would you please name the 2 "faux Democratic senators" in your OP.

I can think of a few that deserve that title.
(One however is no longer a Dem.)

[sheshe2]

29. +1

[Hortensis]

27. Why not read a bit about those in congress who interest you?

GovTrack's just one site that'll give a quick glance to build in. Just plug in the name or compare the Democratic and Republican caucuses.

https://www.govtrack.us/about/analysis#leadership

[sheshe2]

30. Research is good.

TY for the link.