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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:07 AM Apr 2022

Navy Names the Ships It Wants Scrapped as Congressional Protests Grow

The Navy has announced the names of the cruisers that it wants to decommission as part of the latest budget proposal, as well as confirming that all the Freedom-class littoral combat ships -- including one that is less than two years old -- are headed for scrap.

A Navy spokesman confirmed that the five cruisers slated for the cut are: USS Bunker Hill (CG-52), USS Mobile Bay (CG-53), USS San Jacinto (CG-56), USS Lake Champlain (CG-57) and USS Vicksburg (CG-69).

A few of the cruisers named have been tossed around by the Navy before. The Bunker Hill's decommissioning came up as far back as 2017 while a Navy message announced the planned decommissioning of the San Jacinto and Lake Champlain last year. Unlike the littoral combat ships, the cruisers are a much older platform that have developed constant maintenance issues.

The Navy also confirmed that all of its Freedom-class littoral combat ships -- the USS Fort Worth (LCS-3), USS Milwaukee (LCS-5), USS Detroit (LCS-7), USS Little Rock (LCS-9), USS Sioux City (LCS-11), USS Wichita (LCS-13), USS Billings (LCS-15), USS Indianapolis (LCS 17) and USS St. Louis (LCS-19) -- are part of the 24 ships the service said it wants to scrap in a bid to save about $3.6 billion over five years.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/30/navy-names-ships-it-wants-scrapped-congressional-protests-grow.html

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Navy Names the Ships It Wants Scrapped as Congressional Protests Grow (Original Post) Sherman A1 Apr 2022 OP
"Freedom-class littoral combat ships -- less than two years old -- are headed for scrap" Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #1
plus 1 Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #14
In light of recent events, perhaps we should not be in a huge hurry to Backseat Driver Apr 2022 #2
.. Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #4
the Rethugs will use this to lie and call Biden and all Dems weak on defence, the fuckers Celerity Apr 2022 #3
No need to double-down on a bad investment. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #5
Back when I was in the Navy I was aboard one of the first Guided Missile Cruisers. Emile Apr 2022 #6
Talos? keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #8
RIM-8 Talos missiles (fore and aft) and a RIM-24 Tartar missiles (port amidships) Emile Apr 2022 #11
Was on two double ender DLGs, later called CGs. Terrier. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #12
Oh damn! Emile Apr 2022 #13
Send a couple to Ukraine Nevilledog Apr 2022 #7
They don't have anyone to crew them. Angleae Apr 2022 #9
USS Lemon Contractor System Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #10

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
1. "Freedom-class littoral combat ships -- less than two years old -- are headed for scrap"
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Apr 2022

What the holy flying ****. There's $4.5 B down the toilet.


In early September 2016, the first four vessels of the LCS program were announced to be used as test ships rather than being deployed with the fleet.[24][25] This includes Freedom and Fort Worth. In February 2020, the Navy announced that it plans to retire the first four LCS ships.[26] On 20 June 2020, the US Navy announced that all four would be taken out of commission in March 2021, and will be placed in inactive reserve.


U.S. Navy Plans to Retire Troubled $4.5 Billion Warships After Less Than a Decade

https://time.com/6165382/navy-retire-freedom-class-lcs/

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
2. In light of recent events, perhaps we should not be in a huge hurry to
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:28 AM
Apr 2022

actually "scrap" these cruisers ourselves (Does that mean chop up?) - Might they have yet one more useful mission? What type of platform "constant maintenance issues" do these vessels have?

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
4. ..
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 11:33 AM
Apr 2022
The House Armed Services Committee on Tuesday grilled Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Army Gen. Mark Milley, chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on the proposal.

U.S. Rep. Rob Wittman, R-Virginia, suggested the ship cuts were “grossly irresponsible” when the U.S. Navy has dipped from 318 ships to 297, while the Chinese fleet has grown from 210 to 360 ships over the past two decades.

Milley said it’s important to focus on the Navy’s capabilities rather than the size of its fleet.

“I would bias towards capability rather than just sheer numbers,” he said.

Emile

(22,771 posts)
6. Back when I was in the Navy I was aboard one of the first Guided Missile Cruisers.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:11 PM
Apr 2022

USS Albany CG10. It was a heavy cruiser they converted into a guided missile cruiser! You would think they could save us tax payers our money and refit some of these ships instead of decommissioning all of them.

keithbvadu2

(36,816 posts)
12. Was on two double ender DLGs, later called CGs. Terrier.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:24 PM
Apr 2022

Was on two double ender DLGs, later called CGs. Terrier.

Was up on the signal bridge watching aft missile shoots down in the Caribbean.

One sat on the rail and then fizzled. A little bit of smoke came out and then it swiveled forward.

We cleared the signal bridge in record time.

Angleae

(4,484 posts)
9. They don't have anyone to crew them.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 05:48 PM
Apr 2022

The Ukraine navy is only 6500 people (and that was before the war started).

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