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PSPS

(13,600 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:34 PM Apr 2022

Zelenskyy says EU politician told him to show proof that what's happened in Ukraine 'was not staged'

From: https://www.businessinsider.com/zelenskyy-eu-politician-told-prove-all-this-was-not-staged-2022-4

Zelenskyy says an EU politician told him to show proof that what's happened in Ukraine 'was not staged'

Sarah Al-Arshani

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the worst conversation he's had since the war in Ukraine started was with a European Union politician that asked him if the war was staged. "There was a bad situation with a leading EU politician. I don't want to talk about it. He basically said: Show us proof that all this was not staged. That your people really died," Zelenskyy said in an interview with BILD reporter Paul Ronzheimer on Friday. Zelenskyy refused to name the politician or when exactly this conversation happened, but his remarks come after a number of atrocities across Ukraine.

On Friday, two Russian rockets hit a train station in Kramatorsk, Donetsk, killing at least 50 people and injuring 100 others. Pavlo Kyrylenko, the governor of the Donetsk region, which is a part of the Donbas region, said five of those killed were children. Zelenskyy told Ronzheimer that he doesn't think Russian President Vladimir Putin "understands at all what is happening." "I'm sure he has no clue what is actually happening. He has given his order but does not know just how many people die every day and what is happening in reality. How many people, how many children die, how many buildings are destroyed, are burnt to the ground," Zelenskyy said. "He doesn't know about all this and he doesn't want to know. He just needs a result."

The attack in Kramatorsk followed news that the bodies of hundreds of civilians were found in the Ukrainian suburb of Bucha.

Zelenskyy told Ronzheimer that there's more destruction yet to be found. "Some towns were destroyed completely. Some towns simply don't exist anymore – no more buildings, no more people. I do not know what we will find there," he said.


Maybe Le Pen?
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Zelenskyy says EU politician told him to show proof that what's happened in Ukraine 'was not staged' (Original Post) PSPS Apr 2022 OP
The Putin stooge should be identified dalton99a Apr 2022 #1
The world needs to know who that is? onecaliberal Apr 2022 #3
I'd bet it was someone from Hungary. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #13
Probably Orban, yes. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #21
Not EU Leader... reACTIONary Apr 2022 #25
Oh, like IN the EU leadership in Belgium? maxsolomon Apr 2022 #27
I bet it was a French politician DBoon Apr 2022 #35
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #36
Obviously a Russian troll. There are so many reporters on site reporting what happened, and this JohnSJ Apr 2022 #2
Oh that "EU politician" is begging for a trip to the front lines. louis-t Apr 2022 #4
I'd politely invite that person to spend a few weeks in Ukraine where there is heavy combat. ( n/t ) Make7 Apr 2022 #5
Let me guess... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #6
+1 dalton99a Apr 2022 #7
Maybe Poland AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #12
Well... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #16
Yeah, Poland is doing their part, even if their leader is an asshole AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #18
There should be a road trip. War tours. Come see our dead. Srkdqltr Apr 2022 #8
We'll have something blow up for your entertainment. Srkdqltr Apr 2022 #9
I think the odious Nigel Farage is a Putin ass-kisser. cos dem Apr 2022 #10
Oh, my mistake! cos dem Apr 2022 #11
I'll hate to watch the tears of the brexit yeas as their little world keeps getting littler. erronis Apr 2022 #26
If he was still an MEP, I would have bet good money that Farage did say it. Myrddin Apr 2022 #37
Offer the idiot a free trip to any location in Ukraine relayerbob Apr 2022 #14
Hey, politician::: Prove that you are not a child molester. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #15
When did you stop beating your wife? Another one. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #32
just like maga rats llashram Apr 2022 #17
Why don't YOU show that proof it is staged, asshole? Novara Apr 2022 #19
Hand the asshole a hand grenade and run. nt usonian Apr 2022 #20
..he just met with Boris.. joanbarnes Apr 2022 #22
UK is no longer in the EU Hekate Apr 2022 #23
Like someone who makes such an accusation would even accept the proof. Beartracks Apr 2022 #24
Disgusting. Turn on your TV asshole. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #28
Could be marine le pen drray23 Apr 2022 #29
You can't prove a negative Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #30
Are Rupert Murdoch and his son considered EU politicians? nt Tommymac Apr 2022 #31
I hope Zelenskyy told that politician COL Mustard Apr 2022 #33
Zelenskyy should have invited him to Buca and Kramatorsk. Marcuse Apr 2022 #34
And the invitation should have come with a requirement DFW Apr 2022 #38

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. Probably Orban, yes.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 01:58 PM
Apr 2022

It doesn't sound like any other "EU Leader". Maybe Erdogan?

The Russian propaganda line is that the atrocities are staged. It's gaslighting, but how do you PROVE it's gaslighting? If you do prove it, does it even matter? Russia won't stop saying it over and over; nothing makes a liar stop lying.

It's a dilemma we face in our own country with RW media and bad-faith Repukes.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
25. Not EU Leader...
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:17 PM
Apr 2022

... EU Politician. Maybe not even holding office. That broadens it quite a bit, and includes a lot of extremist cranks.

JohnSJ

(92,216 posts)
2. Obviously a Russian troll. There are so many reporters on site reporting what happened, and this
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:38 PM
Apr 2022

jerk doesn’t believe it

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
4. Oh that "EU politician" is begging for a trip to the front lines.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:40 PM
Apr 2022

Make him stand there in the middle of a rocket attack with no protection. Be sure to bring along a change of underwear.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
5. I'd politely invite that person to spend a few weeks in Ukraine where there is heavy combat. ( n/t )
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:41 PM
Apr 2022

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
16. Well...
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 01:31 PM
Apr 2022

I was trying to be nice to Poland because they really are receiving the majority of the refugees and are trying to accommodate them. Hungary, other than taking in a few refugees aren't being all that helpful.

Srkdqltr

(6,292 posts)
8. There should be a road trip. War tours. Come see our dead.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:44 PM
Apr 2022

Maybe see the shells fall!! Come one come all. Walk through the devastation. See the ...........

cos dem

(903 posts)
10. I think the odious Nigel Farage is a Putin ass-kisser.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:47 PM
Apr 2022

Could be Boris, but my guess is he's a bit more savvy than that. Plus, anyone in a position of power will surely have access to intelligence showing how real this is.
Someone mentioned le Pen, and that seems consistent as well.

erronis

(15,287 posts)
26. I'll hate to watch the tears of the brexit yeas as their little world keeps getting littler.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:18 PM
Apr 2022

Of course they were sold a bill-of-goods for a fairy-tale. But they should have used some good olde british common sense instead of listening to the UK version of the trump hucksters. (All gratis of putin.)

Myrddin

(327 posts)
37. If he was still an MEP, I would have bet good money that Farage did say it.
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 10:32 AM
Apr 2022

That's just the kind of shit that the nefarious cockwomble would indeed say!

However, seeing as how he's no longer actually an MEP, I would seach among the many other like-minded MEPs, even from the more liberal countries. Many of them have their own Faragesque Fuckwits too!

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
14. Offer the idiot a free trip to any location in Ukraine
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 01:15 PM
Apr 2022

Bucha, Mariupol for example. Leave him there overnight

keithbvadu2

(36,819 posts)
15. Hey, politician::: Prove that you are not a child molester.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 01:28 PM
Apr 2022

Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Hey, politician::: Prove that you are not a child molester.

You can prove that you have not been convicted but you must prove a negative.

Prove that you are not a child molester.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
17. just like maga rats
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 01:32 PM
Apr 2022

here in the political offices, local and national. Pretend not to see the real truth while making up BS reasons not to see or hear the truth. RW EU politician no doubt

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
24. Like someone who makes such an accusation would even accept the proof.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:14 PM
Apr 2022

That's like Republicans here: claim that evidence is faked, just like THEY would do.

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drray23

(7,633 posts)
29. Could be marine le pen
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:29 PM
Apr 2022

the French extreme right winger currently running in the French presidential elections. She said that if she wins she would ally with Russia.

Farmer-Rick

(10,182 posts)
30. You can't prove a negative
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 02:49 PM
Apr 2022

How can you prove something is Not staged? It can't be done. You can prove something did happen but that doesn't necessarily prove that the event in question wasn't also staged. Both things can be true at the same time.

Most people who live in reality however will believe something wasn't staged if it happened in real life....but then there are GOPers.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
38. And the invitation should have come with a requirement
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:02 AM
Apr 2022

Such as the same one American troops made of the residents of Dachau after the concentration camp there. You WILL gaze upon this with your own eyes before telling me you doubt what I am telling you.

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