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PCIntern

(25,567 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:26 AM Apr 2022

Democrats need a line/retort/insult crafted to put these bastards back on their heels.

It would have to be succinct, sharp and barbed, clever, with a tiny bit of wit. My thinking is a better version of “where is the beef?” But somewhat PG rated. No foul language but it needs something to make people stop in their tracks for just an instant. There are sufficiently creative gag writers and Joe writers out there who could come up with something, but they would have to work on it.

As an aside, having a little to do with this, my personal favorite wine in any movie which was intended to disarm, was George Clooney in the film The Descendants, wherein he confronts the man who was having an affair with Clooney’s now-comatose wife, starts talking to him and in the middle of his “warming up” says rather matter of factly: “By the way, Fuck you.” I’ve used that on numerous occasions and it is a show stopper.

Of course, my other favorite joke in this regard what is the one about the guy who shows up for work and his coworker says you look like hell, what’s the matter? The first guy replies that he had a terrible time with his wife that morning. A coworker asks what happened and the guy says that he made a terrible Freudian slip at breakfast. The coworker asks what did you say? The guy says well I meant to say “please pass the sugar”. The other guy asks for what did you say? The guy replies, I said “you ruined my life you fucking bitch”.

I’m here til Wednesday…try the veal….

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Democrats need a line/retort/insult crafted to put these bastards back on their heels. (Original Post) PCIntern Apr 2022 OP
Why you, you Republican you Achilleaze Apr 2022 #1
"Every accusation is a confession." yardwork Apr 2022 #2
I like this! Delmette2.0 Apr 2022 #8
"Make America DECENT Again!---Elect DEMOCRATS!" ( ? ) nt Atticus Apr 2022 #3
to much trumpy in this LLCARD Apr 2022 #16
I agree word for word with yardwork's post. usonian Apr 2022 #4
Thank you! I read it here on DU first. yardwork Apr 2022 #9
The best messaging I have seen in the last couple years has been from doc03 Apr 2022 #5
Maybe we should stick to paid ads unblock Apr 2022 #7
Why do they hate Americans, why do they hate freedom unblock Apr 2022 #6
How will this help? brooklynite Apr 2022 #10
how dumb do they think you are? mopinko Apr 2022 #11
They are using "CRT" as a method to purge teachers who have empathy and independent thought lostnfound Apr 2022 #12
we need to tell them that. "you are being used" mopinko Apr 2022 #13
Democrats: We smash fascists. Efilroft Sul Apr 2022 #14
It's a Slogan and two Arm movements: "Go Vote!" MartyTheGreek Apr 2022 #15

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Why you, you Republican you
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:31 AM
Apr 2022

Republicans have degenerated into a party of lies, deceit, hate, grift, and with pronounced anti-democracy fascist leanings. They have converted the word "republican" into a label of disgrace.

yardwork

(61,676 posts)
2. "Every accusation is a confession."
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:36 AM
Apr 2022

We could start saying that to anybody who complains about Biden, stolen elections, brainwashing children in schools, killing babies, etc.

It's short and to the point. It doesn't use any bad words. It can be said in a mild tone of voice. I think it's right on point.

usonian

(9,841 posts)
4. I agree word for word with yardwork's post.
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:08 AM
Apr 2022

PROJECTION what they are all about.

And I like the wording! I will use it!

Jaime Harrison has come up with something shorter, and being from DNC, is likely to gain some clout. I gladly defer to a message better than none, or one that asks people to think

(yeah, that's sorry, but progress comes from being in office, and changing "hearts and minds" is about as effective as "thoughts and prayers" in this rough and tumble world. )

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216571510

Excerpt:
Finally, a sticky slogan for the GOP: 'Fraud, fear and fascism'

From DailyKos:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/4/6/2090427/-Democratic-Party-chair-nails-the-GOP-It-is-a-party-built-on-fraud-fear-and-fascism

Kerry Eleveld
Daily Kos Staff
Wednesday April 06, 2022 · 10:41 AM PDT


Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison on Wednesday offered a particularly apt summation of Republicans on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

“It is a party built on fraud, fear and fascism," Harrison said. "They don’t deserve to be in power.”

The three Fs—Fraud, Fear, and Fascism—are a perfect alliteration for the GOP. The fact that it could fit on a bumper sticker is also a notable advancement for Democratic messaging.

Culling Republicans down to a sticky umbrella message about the pervasive corruption pulsing through the GOP would be super helpful for Democrats.

Every time Republicans say the 2020 election was stolen, the response can be, "There they go again."

Every time they claim their efforts to suppress votes and rig election outcomes are legitimate attempts to curb fraud, the response can be, "There they go again."

Every time they blanket Democrats with repulsive smears like "pedophiles" or "groomers," the response can be, "There they go again."

But let's linger for a minute on the latest trope Republicans are rolling out to smear Democrats and anyone else who dares to disagree with them: the notion that they are pedophiles who are grooming children for sexual abuse. On one level, it's a preposterous charge—the whole pedophile ring thing is so 2016. But the coked-up party of orgies does have a recurring obsession with lobbing sexual smears at their political opponents.

The "groomer" charge is just so on brand and perfectly repugnant for the GOP, catering to QAnon cultists steeped in the notion of a global cabal of sex traffickers run by Democrats and their allies.

Moderate Republicans who still exist in this world get it. As Never Trumper and The Bulwark publisher Sarah Longwell says of the messaging, "When your team tries a coup, you gotta think hard about what’s worse than that. Hence, the 'groomer' discourse."

But The Bulwark's Jonathan V. Last absolutely nails the political strategy Republicans are employing and the choice they are making in the process.

"The modern Republican party has found a way to integrate voters who believe in a bizarre internet cult," Last writes. "But it has no desire to integrate voters who maintain that Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square."

That indeed is the modern Republican Party in a nutshell. And frankly, it represents an opportunity for Democrats: a critical slice of those reality-based Republicans are gettable for Democrats if they are continually reminded of exactly what the GOP has become.

yardwork

(61,676 posts)
9. Thank you! I read it here on DU first.
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:24 AM
Apr 2022

I wish I could remember who posted it. If they let me know, I'll give them all the credit.

I didn't come up with it but I think it's very effective. It might cause people to stop and think. They might say "what do you mean?" and there's an opening for a conversation.

Every accusation is a confession. Pass it on.

doc03

(35,356 posts)
5. The best messaging I have seen in the last couple years has been from
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:08 AM
Apr 2022

the Lincoln Project. Take the BBB all we heard was arguing on whether it would be $6 trillion, $3 trillion,
$1 trillion nothing about what was in it. Instead of arguing with Republicans Democrats spent the year arguing
with Manchin and Sinama. I am disgusted myself we get the House, Senate and the Presidency and we don't
deliver because of two Senators. If the Republicans were in the same position, they would have got it done and
as always there would have been some Democrats that would have voted with them. We did get the so-called
infrastructure bill passed then after the signing it has been totally forgotten about. On the day President Biden
visited Pittsburgh to push for investment in infrastructure a bridge falls down. Did anyone think maybe they could
have a ribbon cutting event there announcing the infrastructure money was going to rebuild the bridge. Trump came to
western PA and took credit for a gas processing plant that was in construction two years before he became
President. We have Republicans running around the country now taking credit for construction projects and they voted
against them.

unblock

(52,273 posts)
7. Maybe we should stick to paid ads
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:18 AM
Apr 2022

Remember that the media is strongly right-wing at this point. Obviously foxnews, but not just. The rest of the media talks about the crap f oh sneed talks about, including the same phrases and code words. They give a more balanced view of a biased topic and a biased frame.

Often it's a debate over a right-wing smear where the only conceivable upside for democrats is the smear is deemed probably wrong but in practice it's damaging just to have the debate. Consider the Hillary email nonsense.


In a paid ad, we can get our story out. This is where in Lincoln project excels.

unblock

(52,273 posts)
6. Why do they hate Americans, why do they hate freedom
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:10 AM
Apr 2022

Remind people that when they hate on lgbtqia people, they're hating on Americans and they're hating on freedom. I mean, what does freedom mean if not to live your life as the gender you are or to share it with whomever you love?

And when they hate on black people or Americans with non-European heritage, remind them that they're hating on Americans.

Why do they hate Americans?
Why do they hate freedom?
Why are they dividing us they way our enemies would like to do instead of uniting us?

mopinko

(70,151 posts)
11. how dumb do they think you are?
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:34 AM
Apr 2022

we need to get better at defining the dog whistles. call them out.
why are we talking about crt? it's a dog whistle. just a way to talk about race, but they dont want to use the word. so, they give these dog whistles.
so, what does that mean they think of you? they think you're a dog. stupid. a bigot.
easy to play w a little poke.


also- they stand for nothing. joe's- what are they for? is an excellent question.

lostnfound

(16,187 posts)
12. They are using "CRT" as a method to purge teachers who have empathy and independent thought
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:58 AM
Apr 2022

Book banning and firing or chasing away teachers with threatened lawsuits and fines.

mopinko

(70,151 posts)
13. we need to tell them that. "you are being used"
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:25 AM
Apr 2022

they tap your knee w their little hammers, and you jump. they think you're stupid.

MartyTheGreek

(567 posts)
15. It's a Slogan and two Arm movements: "Go Vote!"
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 12:45 PM
Apr 2022

The person makes a full circle with their arm, then points to the door that's the Go part, then makes the WW II Rosie the Riveter muscle arm gesture making the V for vote!

Been thinking about this for a couple weeks! Can be done by famous individuals or in mass. Easy to learn, do and conveys the message!

R/Marty

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