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tblue37

(65,483 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 12:41 PM Apr 2022

Naive Irish MEP tells a Bulgarian MEP in the European Parliament that peace can only come through

diplomacy. The reactions to her rant are great:



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This is magnificent Westsplaining from a country that has been neutral for 100 years.

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
This video shows why Eastern Europeans have been so frustrated for years with Western Europeans who just don’t understand what Russia is & how it works.

Irish MEP tells a Bulgarian MEP in the European Parliament that peace can only come through diplomacy.
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Naive Irish MEP tells a Bulgarian MEP in the European Parliament that peace can only come through (Original Post) tblue37 Apr 2022 OP
That was... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #1
The Bulgarian MEP's reactions were perfect. tblue37 Apr 2022 #2
They were. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #6
Apparently no dress code in the European Parliament Sanity Claws Apr 2022 #3
Guess not. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #7
Clare Daly is a Notorious Putin apologist. bronxiteforever Apr 2022 #4
She's quite the piece of work... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #8
She looks like she just rolled in from a night out boozing it up with smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #10
Wellll... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #14
Believe it or not, that's an improvement. They're grifters, the two of them. OnDoutside Apr 2022 #25
Thank you for this information. tblue37 Apr 2022 #9
Thanks for posting. Love the reactions bronxiteforever Apr 2022 #15
".. malignant force.. " is right.. I would Cha Apr 2022 #20
She's a traitor to her country. rockfordfile Apr 2022 #32
Lookup "Peace for our Time" Madam Minister. Historic NY Apr 2022 #5
What hole did she crawl out from? She should go back to her tavern and stay drunk. LiberalFighter Apr 2022 #11
Ireland wouldn't be a republic if it weren't for armed conflict. geardaddy Apr 2022 #12
It's a nice concept if both sides agree bottomofthehill Apr 2022 #13
I got a kick out of the guy sitting next to her EndlessWire Apr 2022 #16
That would be Mick Wallace... brachism Apr 2022 #21
The two of them are shacked up together, and both are milking the system as hard as they can.They're OnDoutside Apr 2022 #22
Thank you both EndlessWire Apr 2022 #30
They did that in our national parliament too....part of their "brand". OnDoutside Apr 2022 #33
Okay, that was dumb... Caliman73 Apr 2022 #17
Daly's a Trotskyist, racking up the money, and does not in any way reflect the people of Ireland. OnDoutside Apr 2022 #23
Claire Daly and Mick Wallace. What a pair. bottomofthehill Apr 2022 #18
They got their offices covered in Nazi stickers. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #19
Wallace "gifted" his Italian Villa and Vineyard to his family, to put it beyond the reach of the OnDoutside Apr 2022 #24
+1 dalton99a Apr 2022 #27
Murderous dictators love dialogue and negotiations dalton99a Apr 2022 #26
Wait, what? TomSlick Apr 2022 #28
I am Irish. She and the hairy political soulmate alongside here anamnua Apr 2022 #29
Well, that was a refreshing display of diplomacy.... Sogo Apr 2022 #31

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
4. Clare Daly is a Notorious Putin apologist.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 12:52 PM
Apr 2022

She doesn’t speak for the Irish people. She is disgrace like some of ours(GOP types). I would say she is not naive but a malignant force


Following the 39th G8 summit, Daly accused the Fine Gael-Labour government of “prostituting” the country to US President Barack Obama and criticised what she described as media and political "slobbering" over his wife Michelle and their children during their stay in Ireland.

According to The Irish Times, Wallace and Clare Daly's positions caused tensions within The Left in the European Parliament – GUE/NGL. Tensions boiled over when Wallace and Daly tabled amendments in the European Parliament on behalf of the Left group seeking to water down resolutions about Russia in relation to the shooting down by Russian backed militias in Crimea of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. 298 passengers and crew were killed in the incident, 193 of them Dutch.

In late January 2022, Daly described the Russian troop build up on the Ukrainian border as being "clearly defensive" and believed there is "no evidence that Russia has any desire to invade Ukraine, it would be of no benefit to them".[45] In February 2022, shortly before the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Daly (alongside Mick Wallace) was one of 52 MEPs who voted against providing €1.2 billion in loans to Ukraine, against 598 MEPs in favour.[46] On 2 March 2022, she was one of 13 MEPs who voted against a resolution condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[47] Daly later stated that she opposed Russian aggression against Ukraine and had voted against the resolution because it also stated its support for NATO and had called for weapons to be sent to Ukraine.[48]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Daly

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. She looks like she just rolled in from a night out boozing it up with
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 01:10 PM
Apr 2022

Steve Bannon. She's kind of a mess, in more ways than one.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
14. Wellll...
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 01:28 PM
Apr 2022

Check out her one supporter right next to her (whom I'm sure is another dip from the same country).



Looks like they must have had a rollicking time the night before and just barely made it for roll call.

bottomofthehill

(8,344 posts)
13. It's a nice concept if both sides agree
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 01:28 PM
Apr 2022

But when your countrymen women and children are being slaughtered it a little more difficult in practice.

EndlessWire

(6,562 posts)
16. I got a kick out of the guy sitting next to her
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 01:34 PM
Apr 2022

the guy in the green shirt. When she revved up, he got so nervous he took off his mask. Wasn't there another guy in a green shirt somewhere who was laughing at someone, and he made quite a byte on the news. May have to start wearing green shirts.

She's obviously a Putin supporter without much contact with reality. When Putin comes for Ireland, she'll take a dim view of his war technique of bombing cities to rubble, and killing and raping women and children. I must say, I really like the Irish rep at the UN. She gives a different impression of Ireland which Ireland can be proud of. Also, I am still fascinated with Irish Fishermen.

So, pay no attention to that weirdo wearing jeans to a formal meeting. Even I, who favors casualness to a high degree, disagree with her choice of attire, not to mention her endorsement of a brutal dictator who would kill her dead without a second thought. Send more munitions to Ukraine; end Putin, now.

brachism

(82 posts)
21. That would be Mick Wallace...
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 05:58 PM
Apr 2022

His name is Mick Wallace and like Clare Daly is also a MEP from Ireland. Both are members of the same party, Independents 4 Change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Wallace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Daly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independents_4_Change


Irish Times - Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 17:16
Mick Wallace and Clare Daly: Why we voted against the EU resolution on Ukraine
IrishTimes.com

There has been intense interest from the Irish public in yesterday’s vote on the European Parliament’s resolution on Russian aggression against Ukraine, passed by overwhelming majority. Our decision to vote against it has drawn considerable anger. Central to that anger is the mistaken belief we voted “against condemning Russian aggression.” That is not true. We unequivocally condemn Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine. We call on the Russian Federation to immediately terminate all military activities in Ukraine, unconditionally withdraw its forces, and fully respect Ukraine’s sovereignty. We express our undivided solidarity with the people of Ukraine and call for urgent diplomatic efforts to secure a ceasefire and negotiations to end the conflict.

/cut

But the resolution also calls to accelerate provision of military equipment and weapons to Ukraine, to strengthen NATO’s forward presence, to further increase defence spending, and to activate European common and joint defence efforts “in order to strengthen the European pillar within NATO.” It also, opportunistically, calls for throwing open the European energy market to fracked liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States. Our political group, the Left, sought to remove these elements from the resolution, but the majority in the European Parliament fought to keep them. We had to vote on the text as a whole, which included these calls. Our vote was not against condemning Russian aggression. It was against flooding Ukraine with weapons. It was against a retaliatory spiral of military escalation, endangering all of Europe. It was against cynically exploiting a invasion of Ukraine to advance the interests of the fossil fuel industry during a climate crisis, endangering the whole planet.

/cut

In the European Parliament we have consistently opposed the militarisation of the EU, the expansion of NATO, and the erosion of Ireland’s neutrality within EU common defence structures. We have always viewed these processes as part of a global military build-up, at risk of igniting into a general conflict. Ukraine is a flashpoint in that build-up. Although Russia alone invaded Ukraine, both Russia and the West bear responsibility for creating conditions of instability and confrontation in Ukraine, in pursuit of their strategic and economic interests. Despite fulsome rhetoric, Europe has been no friend of Ukraine. The country has been used as a pawn. Ukrainian lives have been treated as expendable. All along, our work has focused on dialogue to bring about an end to the longstanding war in Donbass, in line with the Normandy Format talks and the Minsk II agreement. Our stance is firmly in the tradition of Irish neutrality and international support for peace.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
22. The two of them are shacked up together, and both are milking the system as hard as they can.They're
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:15 PM
Apr 2022

an embarrassment, a long standing sore in the Irish body politic.

Mick Wallace himself was declared bankrupt with debts of €30m in 2016, but there's a section of the Irish population like to give mainstream politicians a kicking and re-elected Wallace to the National Parliament first, and then the European Parliament.

Daly started off as a hard left Trotskyist infiltrating the Irish Labour Party, before being expelled.

The pair of them have gone "rogue" for quite a while, defending Putin 's actions in Syria, the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and onto what's going on in Ukraine. It should be said Sinn Fein were similarly defensive over anti Putin resolutions, which makes it very concerning that they might get into Government at the next election.

EndlessWire

(6,562 posts)
30. Thank you both
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 10:25 PM
Apr 2022

for the education. I think her position is untenable. And, I thought the guy in the green shirt was also improperly dressed. It is disrespectful, like teenagers (no offense to teenagers; they probably would not have to be told to dress up a bit.)

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
33. They did that in our national parliament too....part of their "brand".
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 02:19 AM
Apr 2022

It's just sheet brazenness. I've often thought that the same people who voted for them, would also vote for Trump.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
17. Okay, that was dumb...
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 01:39 PM
Apr 2022

Does this person not know the history of her own country?

Nobody should like war. Nobody should advocate war just for the sake of it. There are certainly too many people that are cavalier in their attitude toward war.

HOWEVER, armed conflict is sometimes necessary. Armed conflict happens when diplomacy is not enough, or when it has failed. Armed conflict, especially in the face of unprovoked aggression, like when Russia invaded Ukraine, is the only solution if you want to keep your sovereignty.

You have to pursue all avenues to end the conflict. Sanctions, diplomacy, and armed resistance. Ukraine is trying to defend itself from aggression. They want to keep their territory intact. They want Russia and Russian backed separatists out of Ukraine.

To think that diplomacy is the only way to deal with a man (Putin) who is not operating in good faith is willfully STUPID.

bottomofthehill

(8,344 posts)
18. Claire Daly and Mick Wallace. What a pair.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 02:47 PM
Apr 2022

Socialists who support Russia. I wish the MP from Ukraine was there and gave her a Will Smith forehand and then back hand slap. You cant negotiate for shit with a gun pointed at your head. They should cut the bullshit, move to Russia and live their Socialist wet dream the fucking morons.

They can’t suck enough

Crunchy Frog

(26,629 posts)
19. They got their offices covered in Nazi stickers.
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 04:14 PM
Apr 2022
https://m.sundayworld.com/latest-news/clare-daly-and-mick-wallaces-offices-vandalised-with-nazi-stickers-after-ukraine-vote-41428272.html

She complains they've been subjected to "brute intimidation".

Maybe they should travel to Mariupol for a taste of the real thing.

I'm not saying I condone that sort of thing. Just trying to keep it in perspective.

OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
24. Wallace "gifted" his Italian Villa and Vineyard to his family, to put it beyond the reach of the
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 06:21 PM
Apr 2022

Bankruptcy Court.

The two of them are on the ultimate grift.


TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
28. Wait, what?
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 09:22 PM
Apr 2022

This is an Irish MEP?

How did the Irish elect such a putz? What happened to a few centuries of Irish resistance to oppression from a larger country?

What an embarrassment to Ireland.

anamnua

(1,119 posts)
29. I am Irish. She and the hairy political soulmate alongside here
Mon Apr 11, 2022, 10:12 PM
Apr 2022

are regarded in Ireland as embarrassing Putin bootlickers.

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