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I am continually amused by those who promote "compromise" with Trump-humpers, and Republican voters at large.
How does one compromise with racists? Do we come to some arrangement whereby suppressing access to voting in minority communities is okay 50% of the time?
What about climate change? Do we come to some agreement that ensures internet climate-change deniers equal footing in our political policies with actual scientists who have studied the problem for years - and have the data to back-up their findings?
Covid-19, anyone? Should we compromise by agreeing that those who declared it a "hoax" - or those who pushed animal dewormers and injecting bleach - should be given as much credibility as world-renowned epidemiologists who have devoted their careers to tracking the causes and effects of pandemics?
Do we "compromise" by agreeing that Jewish Space Lasers are responsible for half of the California wildfires, or that half of the people awaiting JFK Jr.'s imminent return from the grave are actually sane?
Compromise with those who disagree with us politically is always an option. Compromising with ill-informed idiots is not.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I am tired of being told I need to "understand" Trump voters - I understand them all too well, which is why I fucking DESPISE them.
Bev54
(10,072 posts)telling the republicans to compromise.
Compromise was possible with republicans in the distant past. Very distant past.
No quarter given with the current crop.
Joinfortmill
(14,460 posts)spanone
(135,880 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)with this, and every post so far.
No compromise. They are wrong, NOT US!!!
czarjak
(11,296 posts)niyad
(113,576 posts)Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)
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2naSalit
(86,794 posts)The same as I do trying to compromise with poo tin, same thing, should not even be considered.
dchill
(38,539 posts)...for the misnamed "compromise?"
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)a baseball bat by the third remark, and I definitely can't afford the bail.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)End of story
BWdem4life
(1,697 posts)We were put into groups, each group had to come to a consensus on different survival questions. I was the only one in my group who disagreed with the statement "Eat whatever the birds eat." I held out stubbornly for a long time, but finally gave in even though I knew birds had a completely different digestive system and could eat many things that were poisonous to humans.
Our group "died" as a result.
Kath2
(3,089 posts)Novara
(5,851 posts)And that's what these people are. They are scared to death that white male supremacy is threatened by a world that is getting browner and the people they have been pushing down no longer will allow it.
That scares them to death so they are (successfully) taking over local governments and working their way up. The adage "all politics is local" is true. These people have successfully infiltrated local governments, school boards, statehouses, etc. until they are now in power in Washington. They NEVER compromise. And look, it isn't an unsuccessful tactic. It has been working for them. We need to do the same if we want to beat them at their game. We have to stop whining that they play dirty, and we have to get in the mud and wrestle with them. The only way to stop a bully is by punching him in the nose, not by playing according to rules and niceties.
That is my biggest criticism of Obama, although I loved the man as president dearly. He was too nice, too wedded to the idea that his enemies had the integrity he had and would play by the rules. He was way too conciliatory. On the one hand I understand as the nation's first black president he was walking a tightrope and couldn't allow himself to be the Angry Black Man, but he had this naïve idea that others would play by the rules and be grownups about it, even when that slime McConnell flat-out said that his goal was to make Obama a one-term president. The writing was on the wall, man.
No. We don't negotiate with terrorists. Why should the onus be on us to compromise with them when they refuse to compromise with us??
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)bit that stealthily has made radical Right politics far less objectionable than they ought to be and logically would be.
There's an excellent book called, Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me, that explains how this works. But the gist is that "the center" of anything--a range of prices or weights, for instance--is seen as reasonable. Which means many people believe that placing their political allegiance in what they perceive as "the center" is the logical and fair way to go.
RW propaganda strategists know this, so moving the center has long been in their battle plans for seizing power in a way that appears innocuous.
All the more reason to recognize that we're in big trouble when a violent insurrection is normalized.