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demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:43 AM Apr 2022

"Near the Russian Embassy in Tallinn today. This is a such strong action that takes your breath..."

Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2022, 02:37 PM - Edit history (2)

Liubov Tsybulska: “Near the Russian Embassy in Tallinn today. This is a such strong action that takes your breath away. Thank you, Estonia”.
#RussianWarCrimes






EDIT: more info (thanks to DUer Pachamama for the link)


Ukraine rapes protested in front of Tallinn's Russian Embassy





Demonstrations against Russian aggression in Ukraine continued for the third day in front of the Russian Embassy in Tallinn on Wednesday. This time, a few dozen people gathered in front of the embassy building on Pikk tänav to draw attention to Russian soldiers' rapes of women and children in Ukraine.

The message of the protest organizers was this: "Russian soldiers are raping and murdering innocent women and children in Ukraine. People who support this war also support war crimes, jarring murders to which they are accomplices. That is our message to the supporters of the Putin regime (in Russia, Estonia and everywhere)."

https://news.err.ee/1608563656/ukraine-rapes-protested-in-front-of-tallinn-s-russian-embassy
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"Near the Russian Embassy in Tallinn today. This is a such strong action that takes your breath..." (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2022 OP
Rape of women. Meh.... part of war. How many times have I heard this in 2022. LizBeth Apr 2022 #1
Even once is too many, and absolutely appalling. niyad Apr 2022 #49
NO !!! Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2022 #54
Perhaps it was written in an effort to dramatize the misogynistic psychology at work here? calimary Apr 2022 #57
You are awesome smart and every piece of your post is right on. !!! LizBeth Apr 2022 #64
Awwwww, thanks! calimary Apr 2022 #68
I don't think that "Meh!" represents thattitude of the person making the comment. soldierant Apr 2022 #58
+1 LizBeth Apr 2022 #65
Lizzie? Ever heard of the sarcasm emoji? LakeArenal Apr 2022 #62
A sad day one would need an emoji to guide readers. LizBeth Apr 2022 #63
Yeah. I used to think that too. But I learned after my posts were hidden. LakeArenal Apr 2022 #66
I have had hides a couple times for that reason. I risk it. LizBeth Apr 2022 #67
k and r Achilleaze Apr 2022 #2
There should be some women in the lineup as well as some dogs MagickMuffin Apr 2022 #3
Those are women n/t Pachamama Apr 2022 #4
Most/all look like women to me. n/t demmiblue Apr 2022 #5
Organized by women Pachamama Apr 2022 #7
Thank you for the link! demmiblue Apr 2022 #36
What brave men? These are women. nt. Mariana Apr 2022 #6
Courageous women sarge43 Apr 2022 #8
Look closely at the blood running down their legs. I would say this is about rape Walleye Apr 2022 #10
"blood running down their legs" The women should have thrown the blood soaked underwear mitch96 Apr 2022 #32
In solidarity. Solly Mack Apr 2022 #9
Same. Scottie Mom Apr 2022 #52
I totally agree. However, Putin and the Russian state doesn't care. paleotn Apr 2022 #11
I cannot tell you the number of people on this very board, when the rape started being LizBeth Apr 2022 #14
You're 100% right, that's incredibly shameful. Rape IS NOT PART OF WAR!! paleotn Apr 2022 #20
Hear, hear! nt MrsCheaplaugh Apr 2022 #56
The invasion and hostile action by Russia (unprovoked) was itself rape. Texin Apr 2022 #24
I mentioned the same thing and got a "hide" for it. smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #25
Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #50
Not a NATO enforced no fly zone, but wnylib Apr 2022 #42
They don't have enough pilots, logistics or experience unfortunately.... paleotn Apr 2022 #43
Then why was there a plan for Russian built planes wnylib Apr 2022 #44
To sustain Ukraine's existing tactical capabilities. paleotn Apr 2022 #45
OK. Thanks. wnylib Apr 2022 #47
JJ Green said on WTOP that the Russians raped an infant arlyellowdog Apr 2022 #12
Yes, they know who he is because he posted a video of himself raping the infant! SunSeeker Apr 2022 #33
What is this? Bluesaph Apr 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Apr 2022 #16
This is a demonstration against the violent rape of women and children by Russians in Ukraine Pachamama Apr 2022 #22
Thank you. I was trying to figure out what was happening. nt Ilsa Apr 2022 #55
Location of Tallinn, capital of Estonia FakeNoose Apr 2022 #26
Try googling Talinn, Estonia, and Russian embassy in Talinn. yardwork Apr 2022 #29
Very, very powerful! Too bad the Russians themselves aren't doing this.... Karadeniz Apr 2022 #15
Another award-winning photo NQAS Apr 2022 #17
Well done. Bravely I would add. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #18
wow Kali Apr 2022 #19
Don't let the blue-wave Apr 2022 #21
wow! Powerful!!! llashram Apr 2022 #23
I've been to Beautiful Tallinn! tavernier Apr 2022 #27
The Russians are bragging about violent a_s rape now? alphafemale Apr 2022 #28
What is the meaning of being partially unclothed. Pepsidog Apr 2022 #30
Most rape requires skirts or pants to be removed. tavernier Apr 2022 #31
I feel foolish for not understanding. Thank you. Pepsidog Apr 2022 #35
The picture is confusing at first glance. tavernier Apr 2022 #37
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2022 #34
Slava Ukraina! Slava Estonia! nt Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #38
K&R SmallFry Apr 2022 #39
Russians have been massed at the borders with the Baltic states Warpy Apr 2022 #40
He figured it was now or never time to put "his" nation back together halfulglas Apr 2022 #46
Like I said, woops Warpy Apr 2022 #48
I'm glad the protestors are protecting their identity GreatShakes66 Apr 2022 #41
Courageous and powerful! niyad Apr 2022 #51
Anything to end, or even just slow, the carnage in Ukraine. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2022 #53
Holy shit krispos42 Apr 2022 #59
Good. Do that here rockfordfile Apr 2022 #60
If that don't grab your attention, nothing will! Emile Apr 2022 #61

calimary

(81,519 posts)
57. Perhaps it was written in an effort to dramatize the misogynistic psychology at work here?
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:16 PM
Apr 2022

Just guessing. Sounds like it could have been said aloud with a sarcastic tone of voice to dramatize how deplorable and indefensible and prehistoric the whole idea is.

Unfortunately, it seems clear that far too many take rape as anything from a small-time offense to an attitude of male "exceptionalism" - that it's just something they're entitled to assert, and to take.

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
58. I don't think that "Meh!" represents thattitude of the person making the comment.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:27 PM
Apr 2022

I think the comment expresses disgust at so many people who do respond "Meh."

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
63. A sad day one would need an emoji to guide readers.
Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:53 AM
Apr 2022

I like Lizzie, thanks.

Sometimes I specifically do not add an emoji because I feel we are better than that and the emoji interferes with what I am saying and the intent of message.

LakeArenal

(28,855 posts)
66. Yeah. I used to think that too. But I learned after my posts were hidden.
Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:58 AM
Apr 2022

PS i like Lizzie. Elizabeth is my favorite name.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. k and r
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:49 AM
Apr 2022

Fart in the face of the murdering Russian butchers,
and their deplorable Republican supporters.

MagickMuffin

(15,960 posts)
3. There should be some women in the lineup as well as some dogs
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 11:57 AM
Apr 2022


Increase the amount of outrage the military monsters are doing to all living things.


Kudos for the brave men who did this, they deserve a gold medals!


mitch96

(13,926 posts)
32. "blood running down their legs" The women should have thrown the blood soaked underwear
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 02:14 PM
Apr 2022

at the embassy door...
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paleotn

(17,989 posts)
11. I totally agree. However, Putin and the Russian state doesn't care.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

Having Russia's image drug through the mud globally doesn't seem to phase them. I wish I knew what would phase them short of getting their collective asses kicked by NATO. The longer this goes on, the more I'm leaning towards no fly zone. In Ukrainian airspace, if it's Russian and it flies, it dies. Same goes for SAMs just inside Russia. You "paint" NATO aircraft, you die.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
14. I cannot tell you the number of people on this very board, when the rape started being
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:43 PM
Apr 2022

publicized.... Shruggin' "rape is part of war" and that seemed to be the end of conversation f0or them.

THAT is shameful.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
20. You're 100% right, that's incredibly shameful. Rape IS NOT PART OF WAR!!
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:54 PM
Apr 2022

It's a war crime!!! Genocide is not part of war, it's a war crime. Indiscriminately shelling civilians is not part of war, it's a war crime.
Period. End of memo.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
24. The invasion and hostile action by Russia (unprovoked) was itself rape.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:16 PM
Apr 2022

A rape of a sovereign nation and its citizen population.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. I mentioned the same thing and got a "hide" for it.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:21 PM
Apr 2022

simply because I pointed out how difficult it was not to despise men sometimes (even though I made it clear that I knew it was NOT ALL MEN), just because of the brutality that too many of them were capable of, and even more of them casually shrugged it off and weren't bothered by it. I totally agree with you.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
43. They don't have enough pilots, logistics or experience unfortunately....
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 04:30 PM
Apr 2022

It's actually a very difficult and expensive thing to do effectively. It takes systems, training and tactics we and our allies have honed for decades. Plus very, very deep pockets. Operating a single jet interceptor costs $10K or more per flight hour and the meter will be running nearly 24/7 for months, maybe years. Ukraine is a big country, so it will require a whole lot of aircraft and experienced pilots Ukraine doesn't have. NATO could the whole thing up in 2 weeks tops. We're that good at it and bet dollars to donuts the planning for that option is already done.

wnylib

(21,638 posts)
44. Then why was there a plan for Russian built planes
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 04:40 PM
Apr 2022

to be sent to Ukraine from Poland, with the US replacing Poland's planes? This was scrapped when Poland decided that the US should deliver the planes. There was concern about possible escalation if we provided Ukraine with the planes that they needed and knew how to operate.



paleotn

(17,989 posts)
45. To sustain Ukraine's existing tactical capabilities.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 05:40 PM
Apr 2022

No fly, where the airspace is completely denied to Russian aircraft and SAMs, is a whole step above that. Ukraine wouldn't have been able to accomplish that even with the Polish MIGs. They were just to keep Ukraine's air force in the fight, denying air superiority to the Russians.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
12. JJ Green said on WTOP that the Russians raped an infant
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:34 PM
Apr 2022

I can’t stop thinking about that cruelty. I think they know who the Russian I.

SunSeeker

(51,734 posts)
33. Yes, they know who he is because he posted a video of himself raping the infant!
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 02:16 PM
Apr 2022

It just shows how normalized rape is in the Russian army.

Bluesaph

(719 posts)
13. What is this?
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:40 PM
Apr 2022

Women with blood running down their legs in Russia? I do not get this image at all. Is it real?

Response to Bluesaph (Reply #13)

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
22. This is a demonstration against the violent rape of women and children by Russians in Ukraine
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:57 PM
Apr 2022

This is in the country of Estonia.

This is in front of the Russian Embassy in Estonia.

These women are standing there to protest against the actions of Russia raping.

These women put the bags over their heads and had their hands tied and smeared Fake Blood in the genital area to demonstrate the violent nature of how Ukrainian women are being raped, including vaginal and rectal tearing and internal damage, especially children and infants being raped.

I hope this helps you understand the image and what the Russians have done and what this demonstration is about.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
26. Location of Tallinn, capital of Estonia
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:24 PM
Apr 2022


They're standing in front of the Russian embassy in Tallinn and they're showing solidarity with the women (also children) of Ukraine who have been terrorized and raped.

Putin should care about this because he says he's going to invade Estonia next, and they are a NATO country.
(So are Lithuania and Latvia.)

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
29. Try googling Talinn, Estonia, and Russian embassy in Talinn.
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:49 PM
Apr 2022

That tells us that this is taking place in Talinn, Estonia in front of the Russian embassy there.

The word "protest" in the tweet indicates it is a protest, presumably against Russia.

Russians are raping, torturing and murdering people in Ukraine. There are reports of children and infants being raped.

Details are horrific and readily available on the internet through google searches.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
17. Another award-winning photo
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:48 PM
Apr 2022

Brilliant.

Like American republicans, though, the Russian leadership have no shame. They, along with the Taliban, Isis, and others, are all cut from the same cloth - filled with contempt and hatred for "the other," whoever that "other" might be. We're beyond bigotry and bias and fear. This is about hate, pure and simple.

blue-wave

(4,366 posts)
21. Don't let the
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 12:57 PM
Apr 2022

genocidal butchers forget who they are for a moment. Thank you Estonia!! For a small country, you have stepped up to the plate and helped enormously.

tavernier

(12,409 posts)
27. I've been to Beautiful Tallinn!
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:35 PM
Apr 2022

From a hilltop close by the city looks like Disneyworld’s Magic Kingdom, only the castles and architecture are real and magnificent.
Ancestry puts me at 99% Latvian and 1% Estonian. I’m so proud of my 1% today!!

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
28. The Russians are bragging about violent a_s rape now?
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 01:41 PM
Apr 2022

Looks maybe like broken bottles or something.

But so long as Russia doesn't invade a NATO country lah-dee-dah.

So much mirroring of what Hitler was doing.

By the time he took Paris and was bombing London it was nearly too late.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
40. Russians have been massed at the borders with the Baltic states
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 02:48 PM
Apr 2022

for a few years that I know of. They haven't done anything because Putin was absolutely certain TFG would destroy NATO for him.

Woops.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
46. He figured it was now or never time to put "his" nation back together
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 05:50 PM
Apr 2022

Since he couldn't count on having TFG being back in the WH and NATO was in weakened condition. Of course he also never counted on all that down time massing on the borders of countries he wanted to take was also weakening his own forced with graft and corruption.

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