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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Trump Was Still President, Ukraine Would Be So Screwed
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Counterfactuals always involve guessing. But one counterfactual proposition that seems increasingly obvious is that if Donald Trump had secured a second term in office, Ukraine would be losing the war right now.
Ukraines successful defense has required several factors, including the bravery and skill of its armed forces and continued Russian bungling. But it has also relied on a unified and energetic response from its western allies, which has included moral solidarity, economic sanctions, intelligence sharing, and a massive infusion of weapons. If Trump still occupied the Oval Office, none of these would be occurring.
A month ago, Trumps close friend and supporter Sean Hannity tried repeatedly to coax him to call Vladimir Putin a bad person or admit his slaughter of civilians was wrong. Trump kept refusing. After Trump declined the first opportunity, Hannity offered another: You came under some fire when you said that Vladimir Putin is very smart. I think I know you a little bit better than most people in the media, and I think you also recognize hes evil, do you not?
After Trump declined again and boasted of his closeness with Putin, Hannity tried suggesting Russia was an enemy Trump was strategically keeping close. Trump declined that opportunity, too, saying, I got along with these people. I got along with them well.
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If Trump Was Still President, Ukraine Would Be So Screwed (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Apr 2022
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The whole damn world would be screwed and the danger of it happening is real.
walkingman
Apr 2022
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walkingman
(7,655 posts)1. The whole damn world would be screwed and the danger of it happening is real.
Bettie
(16,120 posts)2. If he were still roosting in the White House,
US troops would be on the ground in Ukraine, side by side with Putin's troops.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,191 posts)3. I think it would be a confluence of mixed messages.
Vague statements of support for Ukraine (most likely pushed by his advisors and not by Trump himself), but also statements of praise for Putin and a desire to negotiate a "peace" that would leave Putin in charge of large swaths of Ukrainian territory.
keithbvadu2
(36,885 posts)4. Dotard would be sharing intelligence... with Vlad.
Dotard would be sharing intelligence... with Vlad.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)5. BINGO
😡😡😡😡
samsingh
(17,600 posts)6. Yes
tanyev
(42,601 posts)7. "Of course he's evil, Sean. That's why I get along with him so well."
....would have been the honest thing to say.