I dated a girl

[newdayneeded]

20 years ago. Her parents had every Limbaugh, O'rielly, Micheal Reagan, etc book in a wall library. He wouldn't miss a minute of Limbaugh's show, ever. True RWNJ type.

She told me a story of when she was 11 and her parents left her and her little sister alone while they rushed her 16 y/o sister to the hospital. Turns out it was to get an abortion because her sister got pregnant from a black guy.

Moral to the story, its ok to get an abortion if you're a conservative....oh and it's also totally fine to be a fricken hypocrite!

[dchill]

1. They need to get a clue. The abortion they save...

...may be their own.

[mercuryblues]

2. ggoogle "the only moral abortion was my abortion"

Which is why anti choicers are all about controlling woman. It has nadda to do with a zygote being a person.

[FoxNewsSucks]

3. Laws aren't for them.

Just others.

[Emile]

4. Republicans have always been hypocritical finger pointers!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. Several years back I read a story about a woman

who'd had something like five abortions, now regretted them and was working to ban all abortions, mainly (as I got from the article) she thought that all women regretted their abortions. Well, I'm certainly sorry she has regrets, but just because she made a lot of poor decisions (five abortions!) doesn't mean she should inflict her current beliefs on others.

But the more essential point of your OP is the important one. These people will still find ways to get abortions. Or maybe they won't really care when their wives, daughters, female friends, start being maimed and dying from illegal abortions. I think the huge underlying problem is that Roe v Wade has been around so long that you need to be pushing 70 to have any first hand memory or knowledge of what it was like before 1973.

[MineralMan]

6. My previous wife and I lived across the street

from a family that were hard-core fundamentalist Christians. One day, their 14-year-old daughter came to our house. That wasn't unusual. She would drop by from time to time just to chat with us. This time, though, she told us that her parents had thrown her out of the house. "Why?", we asked. "I'm pregnant. One of my father's friends had sex with me."

So, I went across the street and talked to her parents. They had no feelings of guilt for kicking their 14-year-old out. "She doesn't live here any more," her father told me.

So, we talked some more with the girl and found out that she had an aunt who lived about an hour and a half away. So, we had her call that aunt, who drove up and picked her up. The aunt, the girls' mother's sister, was beyond pissed off. She took the girl with her, and then took her to Planned Parenthood, and she got an abortion. She moved in with the aunt, finished high school, and was doing OK the last time we heard from her. She's married now, and has a couple of teenaged children of her own. Her parents moved somewhere not long after they kicked her out.

Fortunately, the kid had an aunt who would act like a real parent.

So, not all right-wingers do what you described. Some just boot the pregnant teenager out to figure it out on their own. How someone can do that I do not understand. But it happens. Worst of all, it was her father's adult friend who got the girl pregnant. That's an entirely different story. I'm sure he was a "good Christian" too, like her parents.

[Unwind Your Mind]

7. Imagine being so callous to your own child

Appalling

[MineralMan]

8. I can't even imagine.

I couldn't then, either. The man who got that kid pregnant should have been arrested and tried. But, that would have been traumatic for the girl as well. The best solution was for her aunt to take her in and help her get the help she needed. It was a tough call for me. I wanted her parents to be responsible, but I couldn't force them to be. Thank goodness the aunt was ready to help.

[Unwind Your Mind]

9. Yes, all of this

We could use a nationwide organization of aunties to help girls like this

[MineralMan]

10. My then wife and I couldn't take the kid in.

I mean, we lived right across the street. It was a bad situation for the girl. We were so glad her aunt showed up and took care of her. I do not understand how any of that happened, frankly. I was so glad when that "Christian" family moved. My outrage at their treatment of their own daughter was of no use in that situation. I had to hold it down so we could find a way to actually help that kid. I never spoke to her parents again, though. I simply couldn't.

[Celerity]

13. probably not the best of names

organization of aunties

Aunts are a class of strict and powerfully disciplinary women in Gilead. They are some of the highest-ranking women, responsible for overseeing the training and indoctrination of Handmaids, overseeing births, and presiding over women's executions. They, along with Guardians, are also responsible for monitoring prisoners in the Colonies.
Aunts also instruct Daughters in special schools and help arrange their marriages.

The Aunts are led by the Founding Aunts: Lydia, the most important of them all, Elizabeth, Helena and Vidala.

[Boomerproud]

14. In Ohio it's called statutory rape under 16.

I'm sure other states have the same laws.

[MineralMan]

15. Yes, it is that in California, as well.

However, reporting what happened to the police would not have solved that girl's problem. Her aunt helped her with that, and she did better after leaving her parents' home. Believe me, I thought of all available options for her. I think we all chose the best possible path for her well-being.

Prosecutions for statutory rape are rare, and are seldom successful. Lies are told and the victim ends up being traumatized even further. That's why you see so few such prosecutions. The number of underaged children who are victimized by relatives or friends of parents is too large to count easily.

Finding a solution that causes the least amount of trauma for the child is the best procedure.

[smirkymonkey]

22. So nobody reported the man who got her pregnant for statutory rape?

I'm not saying you should have been the one to do it, but somebody should have. Because people like that don't just stop. They keep going until someone else stops them.

[Mariana]

11. No one gets "rushed to the hospital" to have an elective abortion.

If she really was "rushed to the hospital" it was a miscarriage, an ectopic pregnancy, or some other medical emergency.

[newdayneeded]

17. It was her words

I have no doubt it was an abortion, her sister told her about it. the point of the story still stands.

[BlackSkimmer]

23. Thank you. Exactly right.

It’s a cool story though, huh?

[vlyons]

12. The #1 most awful dreadful scarey fear of RWNJ racists

is for their child to present them with a colored baby. Because, ya know, how would they ever be able to show their faces again at the country club?

[MineralMan]

16. Or, more likely, in their fundamentalist church.

[keithbvadu2]

18. Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

Pro-life to conservatives/republicans is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

[Caliman73]

19. Everyone is capable of hypocrisy. There are big differences in how we think though.

A major difference between people with a liberal mindset and a conservative mindset is that liberals tend to understand and accept that human behavior is complex and driven by multiple, often intersecting factors. While we do not condone or excuse actions that cause harm to others, we try to understand how and why they occur and we do that because we want to try to intervene in those factors to lessen suffering in the world, for both victims and would be perpetrators. Conservatives do not. Their mindset tends to be (and I am WAY overgeneralizing here) that things happen because people are evil. You cannot eliminate all evil so the only thing to do is figure out how to punish it. Which is why they are almost always against any programs that try to decrease crime or abortion, or whatever else, by addressing correlation and cause.

Conservatives tend to react differently when situations affect their own family or close friends, than when "others" face the same situation. It seems to be a function of their world view. I have never been able to understand that, even if I too tend to have different emotional reactions to family and friends than to people I don't know. Like I said though, the difference is that I can sympathize and empathize with someone who I have never met, that is suffering, and want to help them, whereas I tend to see Conservatives be indifferent or even judgmental when other people are suffering similar situation where they had been supportive to family or friends going through the same thing.

[Chalco]

20. How many abortions has Trump paid for?

Asking for an enemy.

[maxsolomon]

21. An all-time classic: "The only moral abortion is my abortion".

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857976/--The-Only-Moral-Abortion-is-My-Abortion-an-article-by-Joyce-Arthur

Abortion is a highly personal decision that many women are sure they'll never have to think about until they're suddenly faced with an unexpected pregnancy. But this can happen to anyone, including women who are strongly anti-choice. So what does an anti-choice woman do when she experiences an unwanted pregnancy herself? Often, she will grin and bear it, so to speak, but frequently, she opts for the solution she would deny to other women -- abortion.