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Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:28 PM Apr 2022

So... Truth is coming out about FL math books... Only one publisher's book will be used...

As DeSantis administration rejects textbooks, only one publisher allowed for K-5 math classes in Florida

Historically, when Florida school districts reevaluate which math instructional materials they will use, they have had more than one publisher to choose from.

Now, the only publisher approved by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Education for K-5 mathematics is Accelerate Learning, a company out of Houston, Texas.

“In the subject area as large as mathematics for grades K through five, it is unusual for there only to be one publisher to choose from," said Billy Epting, assistant superintendent for academic services for Leon County Schools.

--snip--

The Carlyle Group, a global investment firm, acquired Accelerate Learning on Dec. 20, 2018, according to the firm's website.

During that time, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin was the co-CEO of the firm. After 25 years with the company, Youngkin resigned in 2020 to run for office in Virginia.

The first thing Youngkin did as governor of Virginia was sign an executive order to "end the use of inherently divisive concepts, including critical race theory, and restoring excellence in K-12 public education in the commonwealth," a measure that's comparable to DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act."

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2022/04/19/desantis-textbooks-florida-woke-one-publisher-allowed-k-5-math-classes/7357965001/

Really... It makes sense. The entire thing is a scam to make money. They sacrifice children to keep people stupid and rake in the bucks off the tax payers.

And nobody in the press will hold their feet to the fire over it. Pretty fucking annoying.

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So... Truth is coming out about FL math books... Only one publisher's book will be used... (Original Post) Ohio Joe Apr 2022 OP
Everything is corrupt. Nevilledog Apr 2022 #1
Sadly this paints all governments, all politicians as corrupt. erronis Apr 2022 #13
As always, follow the money...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #2
I knew it! I certainly hope they follow the money to find out who's getting the kickbacks Walleye Apr 2022 #3
I'm trying to remember... dchill Apr 2022 #4
R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N n/t momta Apr 2022 #9
This! YoshidaYui Apr 2022 #57
Cut out the middle person Jamesm9164 Apr 2022 #5
I am not sure I agree that text books are not relevant. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #35
Doesn't the Carlyle Group have connections to the BFEE? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 #6
Connections? Practically an olf-fashioned phone system switchboard JHB Apr 2022 #11
So, the conclusion I'm drawing is that this is DeSantis trying to kiss up to the Carlyle group LT Barclay Apr 2022 #23
that's who I assoicate them with LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #50
I assumed money for someone was in it somewhere. They never Hortensis Apr 2022 #7
How conveeeenient. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #8
... geardaddy Apr 2022 #45
Yep...they are just crooks in a coat and tie ashredux Apr 2022 #10
"a man... keroro gunsou Apr 2022 #52
what an amazing coincidence!!!!!!!!!! Takket Apr 2022 #12
The Carlyle Group. Zombies are everywhere. NT Jamesm9164 Apr 2022 #14
Based on my experience as a teacher BigmanPigman Apr 2022 #15
So they built a book with no idea if the state would pick Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #16
trying to do what the Civil War failed to do qazplm135 Apr 2022 #17
Are all the story problems based on Noah's Ark? tclambert Apr 2022 #18
I keep trying to figure out how...... 3catwoman3 Apr 2022 #32
Terms and illustrations in word problems is my guess. wnylib Apr 2022 #37
And Ingersollman Apr 2022 #42
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2022 #19
Sick budkin Apr 2022 #20
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Apr 2022 #21
Thank You for Posting & Sharing With Us...K and R Stuart G Apr 2022 #22
Teaching white supremacy in a trifecta move. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #24
Youngkin. Figures. It's all a scam to make money. yardwork Apr 2022 #25
Yeah, these look like threads in need of pulling Ruby the Liberal Apr 2022 #26
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE Thunderbeast Apr 2022 #27
" And nobody in the press will hold their feet to the fire over it." tiredtoo Apr 2022 #28
Only one acceptable publisher ---SSSUUURRREEE packman Apr 2022 #29
Let's see. . .the bushes were involved with the carlyle group, and chimpy's brother niyad Apr 2022 #30
The love of money is the root of all evil. OMGWTF Apr 2022 #31
Thom Hartmann has covered this topic on his show numerous times. keep_left Apr 2022 #33
My God, they're grooming the kids to only know their math! patphil Apr 2022 #34
So g'damned corrupt! Hulk Apr 2022 #36
Anything that doesn't enrich wealthy Republicans is CRT and grooms children IronLionZion Apr 2022 #38
So get your ass out of our public schools. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #39
Calling children brats is not at all called for. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #41
Oh well dogs do bark and some kids are brats. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #47
It is a derogatory term and you generalized it. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #55
Their kids don't go to public schools, unless it's a prestigious charter or magnet. haele Apr 2022 #56
It is absolutely true that republicans are actively working to destroy the public education system. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #59
So the whole thing is a grift? Hugin Apr 2022 #40
You mean the GOP is using the culture war... jcgoldie Apr 2022 #43
No surprise there. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #44
Bush started it Snoopy 7 Apr 2022 #46
Gruesome to militarize education Nululu Apr 2022 #48
And if that wasn't enough! Gator.Veteran Apr 2022 #49
Dem candidates in FL have to make this an issue and then the people of FL can decide if they really LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #51
Yet I'll be gobsmacked if FLDems go hard after this during the campaign. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2022 #53
We are becoming like Russia. A country run by mobsters. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #54
It is ALWAYS about the grift Scalded Nun Apr 2022 #58
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #60

Nevilledog

(51,175 posts)
1. Everything is corrupt.
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:30 PM
Apr 2022

I think most of us here expected something like this.

FTFM = Follow the fucking money

erronis

(15,326 posts)
13. Sadly this paints all governments, all politicians as corrupt.
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:15 PM
Apr 2022

That's why it is so hard to get any decent person to run for school boards, local governments, dog-catchers, even US congress.

The emphasis is on decent.

There are plenty of the RW snake-oil hucksters that will fill these roles. There is a lot of money from RW/libertarian groups to fund the media.

Unless we can figure out how to combat the paid-for vitriol with facts and truth, we can't compete. We won't win by getting down in the muck with these creatures.

Walleye

(31,039 posts)
3. I knew it! I certainly hope they follow the money to find out who's getting the kickbacks
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:33 PM
Apr 2022

I’m betting DeSantis has friends or relatives in this company. This smelled so much like a filthy corruption scheme. And sure enough it is. Stinks. With Republicans a conflict of interest never a problem

Jamesm9164

(542 posts)
5. Cut out the middle person
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:50 PM
Apr 2022

Having taught math for many years, text books are not relavant. Good students do well despite them and others ignore them.
Just another way to justify, "wink, wink, nudge, nudge>'

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,879 posts)
35. I am not sure I agree that text books are not relevant.
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 11:16 PM
Apr 2022

When I was in high school, I took UICSM math, University of Illinois Committee on School Mathematics. It was the early 60s, and the texts were paperbound workbooks. It was a WONDERFUL program. We proved everything. I still remember a lot of specific content nearly 60 years later. And more than thirty years after taking my last high school UICSM math class, I tested into algebra 2 when I needed to take math classes at my community college. And I'd sit in class, listening to the instructor, and things from all those years ago would bubble up in my mind.

Some day I hope to meet someone else that has at least heard of UICSM, other than those I went to high school with.

Probably, texts books don't matter as much for grade school math, but for algebra and beyond, I think they do make a difference.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
11. Connections? Practically an olf-fashioned phone system switchboard
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:08 PM
Apr 2022

Last edited Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:29 PM - Edit history (1)

From 2004:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/05/22/bush-s-crusades-and-the-carlyle-group/

Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his son’s war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. They’ve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you don’t need to hire lobbyists..

Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle.
The ex-president doesn’t negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyle’s behalf.

One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osama’s half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyle’s accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.

One of Bush Sr.’s top sidekicks, James Baker, is also a key player at Carlyle. Baker joined the weapons firm in 1993, fresh from his stint as Bush’s secretary of state and chief of staff. Packing a briefcase of global contacts, Baker parlayed his connections with heads of state, generals and international tycoons into a bonanza for Carlyle. After Baker joined the company, Carlyle’s revenues more than tripled.

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
23. So, the conclusion I'm drawing is that this is DeSantis trying to kiss up to the Carlyle group
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:08 PM
Apr 2022

for his shot at the presidency. Of course, I'm just a conspiracy theorist.
Rare to see this so out in the open.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I assumed money for someone was in it somewhere. They never
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:58 PM
Apr 2022

seem to miss a chance to build monetary gain into their corruption and destruction of our institutions.

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
15. Based on my experience as a teacher
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:23 PM
Apr 2022

most educational publishers get a kickback from the school districts. Teachers are given several publishers' textbooks to adopt and no matter what they adopt they are rarely ever used in the way it was intended. It really pissed me off that so much money was spent when after only a few years are instructed to throw them out (almost new) books ended up in the school dumpster when the district decides on a different path.

Phoenix61

(17,011 posts)
16. So they built a book with no idea if the state would pick
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:28 PM
Apr 2022

Right… “According to the Accelerate Learning's website, the math book for Florida was "built from the ground up to the Florida B.E.S.T. by practicing educators using the flexible 5E lesson model."

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
18. Are all the story problems based on Noah's Ark?
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:35 PM
Apr 2022

Only even numbers allowed. And you can't discuss fractions because the fraction 3/5 might come up.

3catwoman3

(24,029 posts)
32. I keep trying to figure out how......
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 10:18 PM
Apr 2022

...a math book can have anything at all in it even remotely related to race. Talk about a stretch.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
37. Terms and illustrations in word problems is my guess.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:50 AM
Apr 2022

People and situations reflecting diversity of race, ethnicity, and culture.

Baitball Blogger

(46,755 posts)
24. Teaching white supremacy in a trifecta move.
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:12 PM
Apr 2022

First they stated their intentions, Anti-gay, anti-CRT, which essentially meant anti-minorities (wake up South Florida).

And then they found a way to make sure that the books would indoctrinate the kids properly AND they found a way to transfer public money to their own kind.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
29. Only one acceptable publisher ---SSSUUURRREEE
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:48 PM
Apr 2022

Something is stinking here folks. Gotta love Florida, the penis of America dangling down and stroked by every crooked poll in the state.

niyad

(113,524 posts)
30. Let's see. . .the bushes were involved with the carlyle group, and chimpy's brother
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:56 PM
Apr 2022

marvin was running some kind of "education" company. . .Is there any connection?

keep_left

(1,789 posts)
33. Thom Hartmann has covered this topic on his show numerous times.
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 10:25 PM
Apr 2022

Many are aware of how a few billionaires and their fundamentalist allies hijacked the school textbook approval process in Texas. Because of the state's size and the early date of approval that was chosen (probably deliberately), other states see little choice but to follow Texas in whatever decisions are made about the selection of textbooks. But the real problem isn't just a few asshole fundamentalists and busybodies in Texas, it's that the textbook publishing companies have been swallowing each other up in mergers and acquisitions (many of them hostile) since the '80s when that all became legal.

If there was actual market competition and discipline, it would be impossible--or at least far less likely--for things like this to happen.

patphil

(6,198 posts)
34. My God, they're grooming the kids to only know their math!
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 11:02 PM
Apr 2022

Their grooming the kids, and their parents, to expect an inferior, limited education; to accept a world where choice only exists when the ones in power make the choice for you.
They're grooming the kids to be brain-dead zombies, since to be awake, ie. woke, is somehow wrong.
They're grooming the next generation to accept the Republican party as the only party worthy to rule the nation.
They're grooming the next generation to not know the history of how they dismantled the Republic and installed a fascist dictatorship in its place.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
39. So get your ass out of our public schools.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 08:22 AM
Apr 2022

If you do not like what is being taught in our public schools then home school or send your brats to private school.
I can't believe they use our socialist public schools anyway. I thought they hated socialism?

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
47. Oh well dogs do bark and some kids are brats.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 03:03 PM
Apr 2022

Brat: noun DEROGATORY•HUMOROUS
a child, typically a badly behaved one.

Our tendency to be overly sensitive is a trait conservatives consistently mock.

haele

(12,673 posts)
56. Their kids don't go to public schools, unless it's a prestigious charter or magnet.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:48 PM
Apr 2022

The GOP wants to set it up so that they can control who gets into those public charters or magnets (tests to qualify, and then lotteries that can be manipulated), and everyone else gets stuck in the public schools which are defunded to the point of failure.

Why should anyone who isn't part of the financial, Party, or moral elite deserve an education beyond 6th grade? It's not like real Doctors, Scientists, or anyone that qualifies to be in one of the Professions ever come from those poor trashy folks who don't own a bootstrap, let alone have the ability to buy one.

If the ungodly liberals or poors don't like the average public schools or can't get through the lottery system for the good ones, they can always homeschool.
The GOP truly believes this. Link it to the return of Child Labor, and they're seeing themselves back in the Gilded Age. That's what they want.
Middle Class stuck in semi-servility, depending on Patronage, and fungible poor that die off before they get too useless to squeeze another dime of productivity from. Women -even their own daughters - as useful breeders to care for or at best, "represent" their men.

A great Plantation vision if you're a well-off White man.

Haele

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
59. It is absolutely true that republicans are actively working to destroy the public education system.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:35 AM
Apr 2022

They want education privatized with all tax money to be funneled to private schools.
What we need to bring up and remember is how nixon and reagan destroyed healthcare in America when they allowed profit in healthcare and healthcare insurance. In 1973, Nixon, as a personal favor for his friend Edgar Kaiser, signed the Health Maintenance Organization Act which allowed hospitals, insurance companies, clinics and even doctors to function as for-profit entities. By the late 1990s, 68 percent or less of premiums paid actually went toward medical care; the rest was paid in compensation to executives and insurance salespeople. You just spit up your coffee didn't ya. The entire system has shifted from healthcare for Americans to PROFIT. reagan took it one step further with his deregulation lie. He stuck a knife in our healthcare system.
REPUBLICANS ARE DOING THE SAME THING TO EDUCATION. Open your eyes America.

The private schools in my area demonstrate no better outcome than the public schools. CTR is just another fake issue (look squirrel). The result is that teachers are quitting in droves. So the problem is it is working!!!!

jcgoldie

(11,637 posts)
43. You mean the GOP is using the culture war...
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 09:25 AM
Apr 2022

...which they drummed up out of thin air to funnel money to their cronies?? I am shocked!

2naSalit

(86,760 posts)
44. No surprise there.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:16 PM
Apr 2022

It was becoming obvious that something like this was involved. So do they print bibles too?

Snoopy 7

(528 posts)
46. Bush started it
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

Don’t forget when he Bush was president and he started changing school curriculum it was his brother’s company who had the material his brother made all that money

LymphocyteLover

(5,652 posts)
51. Dem candidates in FL have to make this an issue and then the people of FL can decide if they really
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 04:04 PM
Apr 2022

like deSantis' hate-mongering and cronyism

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
53. Yet I'll be gobsmacked if FLDems go hard after this during the campaign.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 04:54 PM
Apr 2022

Then again, we're talking about a state that didn't care much about Scott's money grubbing illegal activities in the healthcare industry. Why would our voters care about who makes money off of educational materials.

Sorry, not in a good place with respect to my own state today.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
58. It is ALWAYS about the grift
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 07:13 PM
Apr 2022

The first question anyone needs to ask about anything involving the GOP is 'who stands to profit?'

...and the so-called mainstream 'liberal media' never even asks.

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