Bernie gave the go-ahead for 2024 memo

[JoeOtterbein]

Politico

The Vermont senator wants it known that he must be part of any conversation about a potential open Democratic primary in 2024.

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN

04/21/2022 06:04 PM EDT

When Bernie Sanders’ aides sent out a memo this week revealing that the Vermont senator hadn’t closed the door to a third bid for president, they blasted it far and wide.

That was precisely the point: While Sanders has no current plans to run in 2024, no one should forget that he remains popular, is the undisputed leader of the progressive left and that he must be part of any conversation about a potential open Democratic presidential primary. Until now, he wasn’t.

A person close to the process said Sanders approved the concept and execution of the memo.

“I know people who got it who weren’t Bernie staff, who were other Democrats friendly with Bernieworld but not known as hardcore Bernie-ites,” said a former Sanders campaign aide, who requested anonymity to speak frankly about the memo. “They wanted it out.”

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[question everything]

1. And he still is not a Democrat. He should not run in Democratic primaries

When will the DNC learn the lesson?

And for the ones who want to alert - he IS NOT a Democrat!

[AZProgressive]

4. He caucuses with the Democrats

He has one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate so for all intents and purposes he is a Democrat. Especially considering he runs in the Democratic Party primaries.

[question everything]

10. A reminder: we won the House in 2018 with moderates. We lost many

seats in 2020 because the image of the party was of a "socialist," of being run by Sanders and the "squad."

As much as many here do not like it, many Democrats do not wish to be associated with the left wing of the party. If the party will continue to have this image, if the party will continue to emphasize "identity politics" we will lose. Big.

I am still amazed that many here lament the separation of the Infrastructure bill and the social plans one (now called BBB). Both would have never passed and we would have nothing to show for accomplishment.

[AZProgressive]

14. That is strange

It is actually Bernie Sanders supporters that constantly rail against identity politics. Now supporting Bernie is supporting identity politics LOL

Democratic messaging is so inconsistent also don’t buy into narratives or scapegoats. The Democrats won more House seats than they did in 2016 and a couple that lost was Max Rose who campaigned against AOC and De Blasio. A Peterson that told a voter that Ilhan Omar doesn’t belong in the Democratic primary. Losing House seats was not as big as deal as not having a 60 vote majority in the Senate. House Democrats can pass almost whatever they want, most of it doesn’t pass the Senate and if it has a chance conservative Democrats will kill it.

Progressives were right that BBB would die if it was separated from what used to be a Republican infrastructure bill.

I wish Bernie Sanders wouldn’t run though and endorse one of the younger progressives.

Republicans have used the socialist attack since the I started following politics.

[emulatorloo]

16. Bernie's campaign staff insinuated Biden was a senile rapist. Of course Bernie is Biden's friend

and he never did. but he hired surrogates. Others may be able to forget how ugly his surrogates were but I can’t. They unscrupulously lied about Beto and every candidate who wasnt Bernie.

No thanks.

[AZProgressive]

19. I don't like Briahna Joy Gray

And some others. There were other third party advocates I strongly disagree with.

If he does run again I hope he hires better staff.

[emulatorloo]

21. His hiring record is horrible. I am still furious at Jeff Weaver for fucking up the 2016 campaign

I was a staunch Bernie supporter in 2016. Weaver did not do a damn thing to broaden Bernie’s coalition, which is what Bernie needed in order to win the primary.

I blamed Weaver for the loss.

Bernie hires shitty people, I finally got it when he brought in those jerks like Sirota

[AntivaxHunters]

6. Bernie is literally a member of Dem leadership

[Me.]

7. I Believe You Are Correct

as I understand it, he runs in the primary as a Dem then switches when he wins the primary. It's been a none of contention for a while now.

[AZProgressive]

8. He does that in agreement with the Democratic Party

He agrees to run in the Vermont Democratic Party.. continues his candidacy as an independent and the party agrees not to fund an opponent.

[emulatorloo]

18. So what if it is in agreement with the Vermont Dem Party? It is dishonest.

[Me.]

23. Exactly

and who, I'd like to know put that sweetheart deal together?

[sl8]

24. They did so because in the previous election Sanders & the Democratic candidate split the vote,

letting the Republican win.

[Me.]

25. Still Don't Think It's Right

or ethical for that matter.

[sl8]

26. In that case, what would be a better policy?

Continue to split the vote and put Republicans in office, or ...?

[Me.]

28. And What Do We Say When Cons Do This Sort Of Thing

But hey, how about a full out, no holds barred, support for the DEm candidate which is how it should be. There are always other people in a race. And I wonder why the DEms feel they can't find a winning candidate, have they even tried? Or, given that their party won't support them do qualified Dems who'd like to run feel hopeless and just give up.

[sl8]

29. OK, thanks. n/t

[Me.]

22. I KNow That But Still Don't Think It's Right

it's like the fix is in, IMHO

[FoxNewsSucks]

9. He's a far better Democrat than a couple people I can think of

Who have d's after their name, but do the bidding of Moscow Mitch

[TexasTowelie]

2. Soi if Bernie runs for a third time in 2024,

doesn't that mean he is part of the establishment?

Asking for a friend.

[JoeOtterbein]

3. Good point, but...

...I doubt it.

Your friend,

Joe

[iemanja]

11. He's been in DC four decades

but he's not part of the establishment. His brilliance is that he's convinced people to believe that. Everyone has their talents.

[Me.]

5. MUST?

I don't believe it's up to him and his aides...aka his wife.

[LudwigPastorius]

12. I was thinking just the other day, "You know, we need some older candidates challenging...

the president".

[iemanja]

13. Of course he did

This while we have a sitting president in the White House eligible for re-election.
All this talk about alternative candidates in 2024 shows, at the very least, disrespect for President Biden.

How can we expect the public to value Biden when our own party doesn't?

[emulatorloo]

20. ' This while we have a sitting president in the White House eligible for re-election'

Could not agree with you more.

[emulatorloo]

15. I remember when he wanted to primary Obama. Surprised he's undermining Biden this way

Yes I understand the idea is he wouldn’t run unless Biden decides not to run.

But it will undoubtedly give some twitterverse Bernie supporters an excuse/reason to ramp up nonsense and lies about Biden from here on out.

Bernie supporter when he ran against Hillary. Never again. Putting this out now shows poor judgement. I like him but enough.

[themaguffin]

27. He's 80 now.