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"If you're the only one with a mask on, are you still protected? Here's what experts say about mask effectiveness and COVID risk on public transit.
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What the experts say
"The short answer is yes," says Dr. Reynold Panettieri, Jr, a critical care physician and Professor of Medicine at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School -- it is worth it. "The long answer is that it's not as effective as everyone else wearing a mask."
Wearing a cloth mask reduces your risk of catching COVID-19 by about two-fold, he says, whereas a disposable surgical mask is between "five- and seven-fold better." NIOSH-approved N95 respirators provide the most protection, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, when they're worn properly and sealed snugly to your face.
Dr. Taylor Nelson is an osteopathic infectious disease physician at the University of Missouri Health Care. She said in an email to CNET that protection varies on the type of mask, but also how well it fits.
"Multilayer cloth masks can limit about 50 to 80% of small particles from escaping when someone coughs," Nelson says. "On the other hand, the same quality of mask may prevent up to about 50% of these particles when the exposed person is wearing a mask while the infected person is not."
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What the research says
A CDC report from February 2021 on mask effectiveness using simulated respiratory droplets found that "double-masking" by layering a cloth mask over a surgical mask decreased a person's exposure in a no-mask/mask situation by 83%. For a person wearing a "knotted and tucked" medical mask, which tightens the seal around your nose and mouth, there was a 64.5% decrease in exposure. (Check out this CDC video on how to knot and tuck a surgical mask correctly.)
In the CDC's simulation study, a regular surgical mask provided only 7.5% protection for the wearer. Another simulation study from Japan found cloth masks offered a 20% to 40% reduction in virus uptake compared to no mask, with N95 masks providing the most protection for the wearer (80% to 90% reduction).
Broadly speaking, people who always wear masks indoors are less likely to test positive for COVID-19 than people who do not, according to a February report by the CDC. People who reported wearing cloth masks had 56% lower odds, people who wore surgical masks had 66% lower odds and those who reported wearing a KN95 or N95 had 83% lower odds. A big qualifier noted in this report, however, is that people who report wearing masks indoors might be more likely to take other protective measures that help prevent COVID-19 infection, such as avoiding crowded areas when possible."
https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/how-much-does-your-mask-protect-you-if-others-arent-wearing-one/
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Celerity
(43,397 posts)JohnSJ
(92,204 posts)Celerity
(43,397 posts)underpants
(182,823 posts)Walmart hands out some comfortable N95s which I wear inside a cloth mask that fits my ears much better. I cut off the straps on the inner mask.
I do have a N95 that I changed into an over the ears mask that I wear if I know Im going to need to speak to someone a lot in a store or elsewhere.
Still distancing as much as possible.
Lots of time in medical facilities this year. Two surgeries for me and one for my mom. Lots of follow ups etc.
Walleye
(31,027 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2022, 09:35 AM - Edit history (1)
sir pball
(4,742 posts)The only practical difference between the two is the strap setup; N95s are behind the head while KN95s (and KF94s) are over the ear. The protection is functionally identical.
Walleye
(31,027 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,175 posts)And the K95 can be as effective as the N95 if you ensure a tight fit.
When the pandemic first started, I did a lot of research on masks. I found the best I could afford and sent them to my children too.
The ones over the ears rub the back of my ears sore. So I prefer the ones that go around the head. Most masks that go around your ears can be converted to wrap around your head too.
I'm still wearing them. When death rates drop to flu like rates, I'll stop wearing them.
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oldsoftie
(12,548 posts)nothing new. Wearing one is better than NOT wearing one. Wearing a good one is better than wearing an average one. Everyone wearing one is better than only YOU wearing one. Duh.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)When masks were still required (remember the good old days...last year) I'd see sloppy fitting masks, or, guys with full beards having only the little patch around their mouth and nose covered. Like a fig leaf on a nude.
rickford66
(5,523 posts)Better than nothing and more is better. Today's messages have to fit on bumper stickers for the Rubes. They can only handle three words at a time.
oldsoftie
(12,548 posts)Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)Apologies if this is off-topic and it certainly isnt a comment on the honorable DU poster.
But the fact that the American conversation in 2022 is about are masks good?more than two years after the start of the pandemicis what propagandists want to clog the media with.
Its a topic for the uninformed or deliberately misinformed, and engaging with others about it creates a bond. To some, that bond is academic and intellectual, to others its a common radical hero worship of everything labeled as having evidence.
At DU its an academic/Scientific conversation. To the propaganda politically-captured, its a dog-whistle.
Emile
(22,771 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)There is a continued misunderstanding of the physics of filtration in articles like these.
Notably, the first snip says a cloth mask limits 50-80% of coughed particles, but 50% on inhalation.
This makes no sense, as pressure & fluid velocity both have a negative effect on filter efficiency. So, both of these numbers can't be true. My understanding of 2 phase flow & filtration makes me believe the first value, but that would make the 50% value a severe underestimate.
Does filtration media matter? Of course, but I believe the efficacy of masks has been understated for nearly the entire pandemic period.
sir pball
(4,742 posts)At lower fluid velocity/pressure differentials, like you'd find in normal respiration, the mask will flow pretty freely, but if you abruptly increase the differential with a cough, the pores in the mask essentially get overwhelmed and clog up, restricting further flow. It's pretty easily demonstrated if you tightly seal a cloth mask to your face and try to blow a strong puff through it - you'll encounter a lot more resistance than with simple breathing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choked_flow
ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)Pressure drop is pressure drop. The fluidic frictional forces do not change, only the effect at higher inlet pressure and velocity.
Also, at normal, presumably laminar flow, any resistance to flow gets spread out rapidly over the surface area otherwise unused.
Then, a sudden increase in volume & inlet pressure on something held in place by flexible restraints moves to relieve pressure along the perimeter. This causes some flow to escape without going across the substrate.
This Wikipedia article is essentially true, but I don't believe it accurately applies to this situation.
And, I'll stack what I know about 2 phase flow behavior & the physics of coalescence against anyone. (Immodesty acknowledged.)
twodogsbarking
(9,754 posts)to continue wearing mine. No cold, flu or local crud in two years.
I see many people that I don't want to share air with.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)to wear my mask until it's safe.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)I can't control what others do, but I can protect myself and my wife as much as possible.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)FYI, since liberals will often be the only ones still masking in many situations like airlines or transit.