Mark Meadows was simultaneously registered to vote in three states

[spanone]

https://wapo.st/3EDNNtF

“I don’t want my vote or anyone else’s to be disenfranchised. … Do you realize how inaccurate the voter rolls are, with people just moving around? … Anytime you move, you’ll change your driver’s license, but you don’t call up and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I’m re-registering.’”
— Mark Meadows, then White House chief of staff, in an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Aug. 16, 2020

After Donald Trump lost the presidential election, falsely claiming election fraud, Meadows became senior partner at the Conservative Partnership Institute (CPI), which promotes “election integrity” efforts. The organization’s “citizen’s guide” urges activists to determine that the registrations of their neighbors are legal by checking on “whether voters have moved, or if the registrations are PO Boxes, commercial addresses or vacant lots” and then “obtaining evidence: photos of commercial buildings? Vacant lots?” and “securing affidavits from current residents that a registered voter has moved.”

Voter-list maintenance is one of the dividing lines in American politics. Republicans argue that if voter-registration records are not regularly purged and updated, election fraud can take place. Democrats push back that too many voter-list purges are conducted haphazardly, removing eligible voters who don’t learn they are no longer listed until they show up to vote.

Now it turns out that until last week, Meadows was simultaneously registered to vote in three different states — North Carolina, Virginia and South Carolina — according to state records obtained by The Fact Checker.

[Lovie777]

1. Yes, that is OK because he is a Republican . . . .

but the total focus for voting fraud is directed at every Democrat and their districts in majority red states.

[SergeStorms]

3. And only minorities....

it meshes nicely with their "welfare queen" lie.

[Firestorm49]

23. Yes. A black lady went to jail for committing a single voting violation. There is no justice.

[samsingh]

31. as a republican, he is above the law

but if it was a black lady who filled out a ballot by mistake well then that would be life in prison for corrupting democrasy. (sarcasm)


i am so done with traitor, lying, republican scum

[gibraltar72]

2. This would be serious

if he were black!

[gab13by13]

8. Correction, a black Democrat.

[KS Toronado]

26. A black Democrat in Texas

will have serious repercussions.

[badhair77]

4. Of course he should be working in "election integrity,"

considering it’s he’s so adept (? he probably thinks so) at working around it.

[Probatim]

25. He was proving a point - about how easy it is to register and vote across multiple states.

Wake up people. He's improving America's election integrity by committing voter fraud.

(I can only assume that will be his defense.)

[badhair77]

37. Probably.

Remember around 2016 when Bannon, Kushner and others were registered in several states. Absolutely nothing happened. Probably the same here. Of course I don’t remember any of them claiming residence at a trailer they never entered. That might be harder to argue.

[gab13by13]

5. I thought he was being investigated by officials?

Why is it that it is citizen's groups who dig up the evidence?

How is the investigation into his voter fraud going? I bet the investigators need time to get ducks lined up, pretty complicated case.

Just like the complicated case, the criminal referral against Meadows for defying a subpoena, another complicated case. Day 128 since the select committee sent its referral to DOJ.

[Ohio Joe]

22. Yup... And he was bumped off the voter roll in NC...

Virginia... Run by repugs seems to have done nothing and until they do, we don't know if he voted there. This s a state issue but... You feel the need to blame the DOJ... I guess it makes you feel better.

"Just like the complicated case, the criminal referral against Meadows for defying a subpoena, another complicated case. Day 128 since the select committee sent its referral to DOJ."

Weird you keep bringing this up when you know the reason but lets recap once again:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/02/07/why-to-delay-a-mark-meadows-indictment-bannon-is-using-his-contempt-prosecution-to-monitor-the-ongoing-january-6-investigation/

Then you come out with your standard reply of... But all the evidence is out in the public already... To which I tell you it is not, for instance, tell us what is on Tario's phone? Oh... We don't know that... How about Rhodes's phone? oh... We don't know that either... I could go on but since you will just ignore this and go on to post the same nonsense somewhere else, why bother.

Why are you so adamant about bringing a case where at best DOJ could get two months on Meadows (and almost certainly only probation) while blowing the case against any other person in TFG's inner circle? Why do you want them all to go free?

[2naSalit]

6. Yup, he's correct and incorrect all at once.

"...but you don’t call up and say, ‘Hey, by the way, I’m re-registering.’”

You have to go to the county registrar/clerk and re-register where they usually ask your last voting info so you can be taken from those voter rolls. Then there are the petition voter registration people at grocery stores who register voters, I don't remember what those forms look like and what info is recorded on them. At any rate, you actually change your voter registration by filling out a form, usually in person, not over the phone.

F'ing idiot asshole.

[Effete Snob]

11. Ummm... no

"You have to go to the county registrar/clerk and re-register where they usually ask your last voting info so you can be taken from those voter rolls."

That might apply to someone who moves within a single state.

But, no, if you live and are registered to vote in New York, and you move to California and register to vote, then the State of California does not contact the State of New York to tell them to de-register you. The State of California would not even have your previous address from New York. That State of California has absolutely no authority to tell the State of New York who should or should not be registered to vote in New York.

This is, in fact, one of the rhetorical tactics used by these nitwits when they say that X% of voter registrations are invalid. Well, sure, but those registrations are not being voted by anyone. It's like saying that X% of dog licenses are invalid because there is a given percentage of dogs who have died before their license expired. But it is of zero practical consequence.

[2naSalit]

15. Good point.

I have moved several times in the last 20 years but within the same state. Last time I did change states, the one I moved from drops you after one or two elections where you didn't vote. I think they do that in Montana but I always vote in every election so I am not sure. I did miss a local election once, a long time ago, but I received a letter from the state asking me if I was still intending to participate in elections months before the next upcoming election.

Also, I used to receive a voter registration form in every piece of mail I got from state agencies. That may have changed with the new R governor, I don't receive mail from those agencies anymore so I can't really say for certain but I know he and the legislature are trying to suppress voting.

My original point, though, is that you have to fill out a form when you change addresses to remain registered in the places I ever lived.

[sop]

7. When Republicans are registered to vote in several places, it's because they own several homes

and simply forgot to notify the authorities. Everyone knows it's not really voter fraud when the wealthy do it. Only poor Democrats are guilty of voter fraud.

[gab13by13]

9. What frosts my pumpkin,

is allowing people to run for office in a state they don't live in. We have a wealthy Republican who lives in Connecticut, who bought land in Pa. and is running for US Senator.

[underpants]

10. Well, I mean

Hillary did that in NY didn’t she?

Just saying.

Something I recently learned - House members don’t have to live IN their district they only need to live in the state.

[obamanut2012]

13. No, the Clintons bought a house and have lived in it ever since

Before her run.

Oz does not reside in PA. Meadows didn't reside in NC. Hawley did not reside in MO.

[gab13by13]

16. I don't like Democrats who do it either,

I'm sure there have been a few.

[Mr.Bill]

39. And unless you believe Romney was living

in his son's unfinished basement, he didn't live in Massachusetts, either.

[Whiskeytide]

12. Was one of them Texas? Ive heard that's a 5 year prison sentence in Texas. n/t

[essaynnc]

14. So was he registered, or did he vote???

I guess that I have no problem with him being registered in a number of places, although him registering in NC at a trailer that he never lived in is suspect.

However, if he VOTED in more than one place, then he needs to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

[gab13by13]

18. Maybe that citizen group will do more investigating.

[sinkingfeeling]

20. Multiple registrations in different states isn't the problem. I've

lived and voted in 8 states and have never told any of them to remove me from their voter rolls. I always thought that it was an automatic removal after not voting in 2 or 3 elections.
The voter fraud is voting in more than one place in the same election.

[Effete Snob]

24. "The voter fraud is voting in more than one place"

...OR voting in one place where one is not actually qualified to vote, regardless of being registered.

Meadows, for example, voted in North Carolina in accordance with a voter registration corresponding to an address where he has never resided.

[sinkingfeeling]

33. True.

[randr]

17. I would bet that many people with multiple homes

are registered in multiple places. Especially if they have a private jet to fly around on election day.

[gab13by13]

19. Romney voted for Brown in Mass.

claimed he was living in his son's basement.

[Emile]

21. How many did he vote in?

[patphil]

27. All this is a good argument for a national voter registration database.

Every citizen can be easily registered using public records, such as social security numbers, and their address maintained.
It would also pave the way for online voting.

[Meadowoak]

28. Wasn't Meadow's the one urging people to register to vote in SC from other states just

A couple years ago?

[MagickMuffin]

29. Someone needs to report him to the Conservative Partnership Institute

I'm almost certain they'll make sure he is PURGED from all voters rolls past and future!

[Scalded Nun]

30. This is certainly a new take on the 'Get Out the Vote' effort

[IbogaProject]

32. My Mom's county still has me on tge rolls

They won't remove it until the house gets sold, the mail forwarding expires and their mailings get returned. Maybe even then the next owner will just dispose them and it will remain further.

Mr M, was clearly in the wrong being registered where he hadn't ever lived, which may be illegal if he failed the "resided for at least 30 days" rewuirement before he registered. Isn't the actual illegal thing to do is vote twice in the same election? I hate the guy, but is this worth more than a passing attention?

[Warpy]

34. It's not illegal to be registered in more than one state

since people move and notifying the elections board is pretty low on the list when they do.

Voting in more than one location is illegal. If it can be proven that he voted in more than one state, throw the book at him, make him an example of voter fraud, and rub TFG;s nose in it at every opportunity.

Jut don't pillory the man for being registered more than once. If you've ever moved, chances are you were, also.

[TeamProg]

35. Calif DMV voter registration has been in-effect for decades..

I recommend it.

[Novara]

36. If you commit voting fraud you should be barred from voting for the rest of your life

[BWdem4life]

38. That's not illegal

Not to defend him, but just pointing this out because I work in elections and it's a common misconception.

People move all the time and forget to cancel their registration, then register in a different state/municipality.

As long as they vote in the state in which they are currently a resident (defined by that state) and not in any other state / municipality at the same time, there's no law being broken.

If the former state/municipality gets notified by the post office or other elections office that the person has registered there, they will of course cancel the registration in the former place.

The whole thing is a nothingburger being inflated by Repugs. Just because somebody COULD commit voter fraud (e.g. a vote-by-mail ballot gets forwarded to them and they vote it as well as voting in their local election) doesn't mean they WILL. The vast majority will call up the old place and say "hey, I just got a ballot from you but I moved." Or they'll toss it, hoping the situation will resolve itself without any action on their part. "Return to sender" works well. But actually voting both? Doesn't happen very often, as Republicans know very well. Purging voter rolls on the other hand often disenfranchises many people - people who are more likely NOT to be Republican, as Repigs also know very well.

End of story.

[Mr.Bill]

40. I'm pretty sure in California

the voter registration form asks if you are currently registered in any other county in the state. I would assume they are communicating with other Registrars in other counties who will purge you from their rolls. It would be a good idea to do this from state to state also.

[BWdem4life]

41. Washington now has a statewide system

If you register in a new county, the old county will be notified.

Perhaps a Federal system would be possible - if it were, would that kill the "voter fraud" issue? I actually doubt it, they need it too badly.

Funny thing - I actually did see one guy voting his mentally incapacitated wife's ballot, signing her name well enough to get past the screeners (although I could tell). I reported it, but nobody ever responded to me about it. It made me pretty mad - I wish I'd kept a record of the name so I could look it up again later (but I'm a temporary elections worker so there's no guarantee they'll even hire me back in the same capacity anyway).