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niyad

(113,323 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 10:50 AM Apr 2022

Think about where we would be with green/renewables if we had been

subsidizing them instead of the extraction industries just since the first Earth Day, April 22, 1970.

I keep thinking about it as I wonder why my community does not have wind and solar, as I have been asking since that first Earth Day. We have 300 days of sunshine a year on average, and a LOT of wind. Oh, but green is soooo expensive, as our utility bills skyrocket, we get sticker shock at the pump, and we are in exceptional drought.

Makes one a bit crazy.

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Javaman

(62,530 posts)
1. no shit.
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 10:57 AM
Apr 2022

I also think about if Al Gore hadn't had the election stolen from him, how much farther along we would be to catching up.

but alas

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
3. I like to think there is an alternate universe where he got in office...
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 11:03 AM
Apr 2022

he put through a major climate package and we never went to war.

I want to live in that universe.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
4. I remember being one of the few people who cared & was mad about Reagan
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 11:05 AM
Apr 2022

taking the solar panels off the White House. It was such a symbolic move & set the tone for the entire Republican Party in regards to green/renewable energy & eventually, climate change itself.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
9. Sadly true. Mocking President Carter as he did was one of the many things
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 11:43 AM
Apr 2022

for which I despised him.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
5. When I think of that election, I think about Ralph Nader
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 11:13 AM
Apr 2022

Thanks, Ralphie. You truly did change the world.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
7. Much of what we're experiencing can be attributed to one unelected person...
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 11:20 AM
Apr 2022

Lee R. Raymond.

He was the original, "Drill, baby, drill" guy. He didn't believe there was any need to look any further than fossil fuels and anything else was pointless.

He unilaterally cut all private investigations of global warming and alternatives in 1979 using the energy crisis as an excuse. These actions eventually expanded to curtail government funded efforts.


"While at Exxon, Raymond was one of the most outspoken executives in the United States against regulation to curtail global warming. While casting doubt on climate change in public, internal Exxon research pointed to the role of human activity in climate change and the dangers of climate change."

EDIT TO ADD: "Steve Coll describes Raymond as 'notoriously skeptical about climate change and disliked government interference at any level'."
- The pattern for all of the rest. He made it fashionable to hate. - Me.



Moron here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Raymond

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. If we'd only paid attention to Jimmy Carter' speech of 15 July 1979
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 12:51 PM
Apr 2022
Jimmy Carter
Energy and the National Goals - A Crisis of Confidence

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States.
Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977--
never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own
production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on
foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through
the 1980s, for I am tonight setting the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by
one-half by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over four and a half million barrels of
imported oil per day.

Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my presidential authority to set
import quotas. I’m announcing tonight that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this
country of one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow. These quotas will ensure a
reduction in imports even below the ambitious levels we set at the recent Tokyo summit.

Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most massive peacetime
commitment of funds and resources in our nation’s history to develop America’s own
alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from
unconventional gas, from the sun.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Point four: I’m asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of law, that our nation’s
utility companies cut their massive use of oil by fifty percent within the next decade and
switch to other fuels, especially coal, our most abundant energy source.

Point five: To make absolutely certain that nothing stands in the way of achieving these goals,
I will urge Congress to create an energy mobilization board which, like the War Production
Board in World War II, will have the responsibility and authority to cut through the red tape,
the delays, and the endless roadblocks to completing key energy projects.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Point six: I’m proposing a bold conservation program to involve every state, county, and city
and every average American in our energy battle. This effort will permit you to build
conservation into your homes and your lives at a cost you can afford

More: https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/PDFFiles/Jimmy%20Carter%20-%20Crisis%20of%20Confidence.pdf
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