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the Oli's and Putinistas to keep them in line... and is that why people from Trump to Tucker keep backing Putin out of fear of being suicided..
As Mr Peacetrain observed this AM.. those two Oligarchs and their families that were supposedly killed by the Olis and the Oli committed suicide (oli =oligarch.. just tired of typing it out) were the families really killed by the Russians to inflict more pain and fear into all those who have made a deal with that devil Putin..
Its a dark dark thought.. but look at all the mayhem they have done in Ukraine..
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)and for extra torture... kill the children first then the wife and finally the Oligarch.
This is a message to all.
BTW, my understanding is that neither of these "suicides" were under sanctions... so I believe that means they still had their money and the rest of their lives to spend it. Not exactly a recipe for suicide.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)for other politicians.. Le Pen etc.. they stole all the money from the Russian people to buy politicians world wide... and now they own them.. and they have to keep them in line.. its the only thing that makes any kind of sense
erronis
(15,263 posts)I expect to see Marco, Cruz, Greene, Bobbert, etc. whining that they can't convert their holdings.
Moscow's Mitch along with his connections to China may be a bit less worried.
I think it's time to get some serious money tracing. Thanks to ICIJ, ProPublica and others. Now the US and other governments need to put some real teeth into clawing back stolen/illegal money, crippling accounting and legal firms that aid and abet, and throwing a bunch of crooks in the hoosegow. (https://www.etymonline.com/word/hoosegow)
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,999 posts)soldierant
(6,880 posts)Two such incidents - even in two different countries - simultanwously - it screams aloud.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)If they don't oust Putin, it's pretty clear what will happen. They just need to admit it and do something.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)not reported on by major investigative media. Presumably busy verifying what they can initially report as their investigations dig.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarch-family-dead-spain-1699660
but investigation trying to figure if Spanish deaths were a mob hit or murder suicide.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)A while ago now. Mass resignation of most journalistic and management staff, etc.
Sad, but no RIP for the once great Newsweek name.
calimary
(81,267 posts)I still remember the nun exhorting girls! READ your NEWSWEEK!
Sigh. Sad news about a once-credible publication.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Google translated to English:
Although sex crime is the number one hypothesis of investigators, given some details of the crime scene and given the profile of Sergey Protoshenya, a wealthy Russian oligarch linked to the Novatek company, and the coincidence that the same A case has been detected in Moscow of another executive also linked to the gas company who allegedly killed his wife and daughter and committed suicide, the investigation wants to spin thin and make sure it's not a well-planned triple murder to pass it off as a crime of domestic violence with suicide.
snip...
https://www.elpuntavui.cat/punt-divers/article/4-divers/2129131-la-matanca-de-lloret-crim-domestic-o-mafios.html
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)possible suicide-murder v murder. Of course the latter seems all too plausible. But so does the former.
The reminder I wanted to make is that there is no post-truth world, even if social media is an open invitation to us all to join those who fool themselves all the time. Whatever did happen is real.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Fla Dem
(23,675 posts)gibraltar72
(7,505 posts)who know where the other bodies are buried. It is getting hard to figure out if the "murders" happened before or after the suicides.
gab13by13
(21,348 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)You said that like it was a bad thing, gab13by13.
Raster
(20,998 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Without question.
mitch96
(13,905 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)No question it was a message.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)I hope someone devises a way to blow his body to bits.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)He didnt win re-election but he invaded Ukraine instead. Putin still dreaming of running America again.