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lastlib

(23,286 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:20 AM Apr 2022

I am ROYALLY PISSED at Facebook this morning!

A former co-worker, who happens to be from Ukraine, posted a photo about the latest Russian missile strike in Odesa which killed a mother and her three-month-old baby. I replied to the post that it made me want to burn the Kremlin to the ground, with Vlad P. in it. Facebook REMOVED my post, telling me that I was "inciting violence." - - - - - -

Who the hell WOULDN'T be "inciting violence" against Vlad after that act?? I filed my appeal with them, telling them at the end that FB might want to avoid acting as a Putin tool, that Vlad was smiling at their decision to remove my post.

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I am ROYALLY PISSED at Facebook this morning! (Original Post) lastlib Apr 2022 OP
Five years ago I posted a photo of the immigrant boy who died on the beach... CurtEastPoint Apr 2022 #1
Facebook is hopeless. NameAlreadyTaken Apr 2022 #2
Forget about Facebook. It's a hopeless sewer of stuff that shouldn't be there Ocelot II Apr 2022 #3
Fuck Facebook and the Zuck it rode in on. Celerity Apr 2022 #4
Sadly, these posts become victim to an algorithm or whatever, secondwind Apr 2022 #5
Nope, I'm going with Facebook on this point... brooklynite Apr 2022 #6
Would you have complained about someone in 1944.... lastlib Apr 2022 #7
We were at war with Germany. brooklynite Apr 2022 #8
yes. particularly if they were painting it on the side of a school building stopdiggin Apr 2022 #12
+1. if you're posting incendiary stuff (and this fits the def.) stopdiggin Apr 2022 #11
FB is free... HipChick Apr 2022 #9
Just about to post this until I saw your response. LuckyCharms Apr 2022 #15
I agree with your general sentiment Zeitghost Apr 2022 #21
Don't try that on Twitter either! BlueJac Apr 2022 #10
same with me.. i had one removed for the same thing but it sure felt good to post it :) samnsara Apr 2022 #13
now go back on facebook and search for "execute women who have an abortion" Takket Apr 2022 #14
I mean it's an algorithm that's making the decision Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #16
I had one hidden for saying Robert E. Lee should have been hung as a traitor. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2022 #18
FB "bans" violence but FB *IS* VIOLENCE usonian Apr 2022 #17
Somebody reported you to FB and that's why it got deleted FakeNoose Apr 2022 #19
FB also has algorithms LeftInTX Apr 2022 #20

CurtEastPoint

(18,663 posts)
1. Five years ago I posted a photo of the immigrant boy who died on the beach...
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:23 AM
Apr 2022

and FB 'covered' it. FIVE YEARS AGO.

NameAlreadyTaken

(981 posts)
2. Facebook is hopeless.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:23 AM
Apr 2022

I've complained so many times about vicious, nasty posts, and Facebook just lets them stay up. They clearly have multiple standards.

Ocelot II

(115,836 posts)
3. Forget about Facebook. It's a hopeless sewer of stuff that shouldn't be there
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:25 AM
Apr 2022

while deleting harmless things because its algorithms are stupid.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
5. Sadly, these posts become victim to an algorithm or whatever,
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:32 AM
Apr 2022

I don’t think humans are involved. Just my two cents.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
6. Nope, I'm going with Facebook on this point...
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:35 AM
Apr 2022

Anger not withstanding, advocating violence (even as a rant) isn't acceptable, and angry rants on Facebook are precisely the sort of thing people have complained about in the past. "Trump/Putin does it" isn't acceptable as an argument (and neither of them have Facebook accounts where they're doing it).

lastlib

(23,286 posts)
7. Would you have complained about someone in 1944....
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:39 AM
Apr 2022

wanting to burn Berchtesgaden with Adolf Hitler in it?

(I'll just leave it at that)

stopdiggin

(11,361 posts)
12. yes. particularly if they were painting it on the side of a school building
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:53 AM
Apr 2022

or my local church.

The local beer hall might have presented another case - but then that would have kind of depended on what the owner felt like allowing. Right?

stopdiggin

(11,361 posts)
11. +1. if you're posting incendiary stuff (and this fits the def.)
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 11:50 AM
Apr 2022

then you're contributing to the toxic atmosphere. Tone it down.

(To be clear. Not a big fan, and I use it very sparingly. But we blame FB, et.al. for not trying to de-fang and declaw - clean up the mess - then blame the efforts that they do make)

LuckyCharms

(17,458 posts)
15. Just about to post this until I saw your response.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:06 PM
Apr 2022

You are exactly correct.

Users are not charged, in fact, the users are their product.

I was on it for awhile. Nothing that Facebook did in particular pissed me off, but the entire dynamic that I personally witnessed (I'm not suggesting that everyone has the same experience as me), was not something I wanted to be a part of.

So I figure there are 3 options when dissatisfied with FB, depending on the reason you are dissatisfied:

1) Stay

2) Leave

3) Rally support to encourage Facebook to change their business model to one in which users pay a substantial fee to be a member, and therefore, have more freedom to control their experience, or decide which posts stay and which posts get deleted.

I chose to leave. Pretty easy choice in my case.

Zeitghost

(3,868 posts)
21. I agree with your general sentiment
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:23 PM
Apr 2022

But FB is not free, you just happen to be the product being sold and not the customer.

Takket

(21,625 posts)
14. now go back on facebook and search for "execute women who have an abortion"
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:06 PM
Apr 2022

and I'll bet you found thousands of posts with thousands of shares.............

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
16. I mean it's an algorithm that's making the decision
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:28 PM
Apr 2022

so using the phrase "burn x to the ground" probably isn't a great decision.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,339 posts)
18. I had one hidden for saying Robert E. Lee should have been hung as a traitor.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:53 PM
Apr 2022

It was reversed within an hour.

My account was temporarily locked. Apparently I have two strikes from a meme I posted twice - the meme with Trump in a sleeper hold saying “who’s sleepy now, b*tch.” Those where zonked 6+ months after they were posted.

usonian

(9,867 posts)
17. FB "bans" violence but FB *IS* VIOLENCE
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:36 PM
Apr 2022

The violence that FB (Meta) does is to truth.
And they get away with it.

I watched the internet grow from the day it changed from a research network to a commercial one.
The ONLY people who could extract a buck were porn sites.
Nobody else could figure a way to make a buck, none of the "geniuses" ... not Larry Page nor Sergey Brin, nor Zuck nor the forgotten internet roadkill. Thank goodness that Wikipedia and the Internet Archive and a few others survive on donations.

MOST TURNED TO ADVERTISING,
and that's the day that quantity trounced quality.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/advertising-poison-hooked
Advertising is a poison that demeans even love – and we're hooked on it
• This article is more than 10 years old
George Monbiot

A MUST READ.
World's shortest pull-quote:

Pervasiveness and repetition act like a battering ram against our minds.


Hey, this is violence.

ZUCK YOU FUCKERBERG and all the ad-driven, now surveillance-driven dystopian monstrosities.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
19. Somebody reported you to FB and that's why it got deleted
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:10 PM
Apr 2022

The truth is that Facebook (the company) doesn't give a rat's-ass what anybody posts - UNTIL it gets reported. Most likely the person who reported you is a RWNJ, Magat, and Putin-lover.

I quit FB over a year ago and it no longer concerns me. But I have a suggestion for you, if you plan to stay on there and continue to fight the morons. When you make a political statement, be sure it's not so bluntly "liberal-sounding" because that's what the RWNJ's react to. If you can write it in a way that gets the point across indirectly and use some $3 words that they won't exactly understand, then they usually give it a pass.

Good luck my friend!

LeftInTX

(25,555 posts)
20. FB also has algorithms
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:17 PM
Apr 2022

I had few posts auto-removed. I protested and they reinstated them. The posts were for benign things such as a black cat on Friday the 13th...(FB said it was spam)

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