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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,088 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 08:09 PM Apr 2022

Ukraine-Russia War: Russia forced to use outdated Soviet equipment - GUR

The Russian military is being forced to increasingly rely on outdated Soviet-made equipment in its ongoing invasion of Ukraine, pulling out weapons that have been in storage since the 1970s, the Ukrainian Intelligence Directorate (GUR) claimed last Thursday.

In particular, the majority of old Soviet-era equipment seems to be meant to shore up Russian artillery and missile capabilities.

In April alone, hundreds of weapons were taken out of GRAU's storage for this purpose, including Msta-S anti-aircraft guns, Hurricane MLRSs and more.

These reports come following numerous prior reports of Russia being forced to find means of making up for losses in Ukraine, as well as other ongoing issues.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-russia-war-russia-forced-to-use-outdated-soviet-equipment-gur/ar-AAWwYfT

That's what happens in a kleptocracy.

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Ukraine-Russia War: Russia forced to use outdated Soviet equipment - GUR (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 OP
Also happens when embargoes stop you from mucifer Apr 2022 #1
They probably still have lots of WW-2 stuff in mothballs ThoughtCriminal Apr 2022 #2
They had a tremendous amount of artillery by 1945. WarGamer Apr 2022 #4
But how much ammo do they have for the old systems? Angleae Apr 2022 #5
1. Let's hope. Igel Apr 2022 #3
Keep sending the equipment Brother Buzz Apr 2022 #6

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
2. They probably still have lots of WW-2 stuff in mothballs
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 08:31 PM
Apr 2022

When you see a T-34 in frontline service, they are looking under the barrel.

WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
4. They had a tremendous amount of artillery by 1945.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:05 PM
Apr 2022

And to be honest... artillery hasn't changed much since then.

I'm not sure the 152mm howitzer designed in the 50's (and still used today) is substantially different than the 1943 version of the 152mm howitzer.

Angleae

(4,489 posts)
5. But how much ammo do they have for the old systems?
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:27 PM
Apr 2022

Especially propellant charges (they expire due to moisture absorption)

Igel

(35,323 posts)
3. 1. Let's hope.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:01 PM
Apr 2022

2. That crap can't be guided, so you generally point it at the target and hope that it sort of/kind of hits. "Collateral" becomes more and more lateral.

Brother Buzz

(36,448 posts)
6. Keep sending the equipment
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:37 PM
Apr 2022

The Ukrainian John Deere Brigade is getting real good at fixing and upgrading the shit you guys can't seem to repair

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