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MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:13 AM Apr 2022

OK. That Does It! I'm Cancelling My Internet Account!

Here's why:

1. There are right-wingers everywhere on the Internet.
2. The technology and backbone of the Internet is owned by evil corporations and oligarchs.
3. You can't go anywhere on the Internet without being bombarded constantly by corporate advertising.
4. The Internet is a massive consumer of fossil-fuel-based computer hardware and drives global climate change.

But I'm not going to stop there. As a replacement for the Internet, I'm going to fire up my old Wildcat! BBS system. It's still on an old PC XT in my basement. All I have to do is plug that PC back in, boot it up, connect a phone line to its 9600 baud modem, and everyone can dial into it from any telephone number in the world. That was good enough in 1989 and it's good enough now!

I'll publish the phone number for it soon. Yes, I will.

Drop Out! Dial In! Log On!

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OK. That Does It! I'm Cancelling My Internet Account! (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2022 OP
Sounds serious Torchlight Apr 2022 #1
Good plan! PJMcK Apr 2022 #2
I can dig it. dchill Apr 2022 #3
Don't forget to cancel all your newspaper and magazine subscriptions brooklynite Apr 2022 #4
Exactly! MineralMan Apr 2022 #6
i did just that after trump** stole the election... I didnt come back above ground until samnsara Apr 2022 #21
Actually not a bad idea. Hugin Apr 2022 #5
Before I took it down, I had upgraded my Wildcat! BBS to have MineralMan Apr 2022 #7
Yeah, what was Al Gore thinking when he invented the Internet anyway? dutch777 Apr 2022 #8
Those who are awake to "reality" are ... sanatanadharma Apr 2022 #9
Anything in particular put you over the edge MM? empedocles Apr 2022 #10
Well, if I have to cancel Facebook and Twitter, I might as well MineralMan Apr 2022 #11
I've never had either a Facebook or a Twitter account and don't plan to. TomSlick Apr 2022 #33
Facebook gone for me, twitter if mush captures it. Need my search engines tho empedocles Apr 2022 #13
I just got my crystal radio set out and I've been listening to Walter Cronkite!!! RKP5637 Apr 2022 #12
There you go! That's the ticket! MineralMan Apr 2022 #16
Hey, you're the guy with the tube radio(s), right? Time to fire those up... keep_left Apr 2022 #31
Yeah, but I also have a crystal set. MineralMan Apr 2022 #32
Good idea. dixiechiken1 Apr 2022 #14
I'm going to hold my breath! I don't want to share the same O2 with Trumpy and his ilk. FSogol Apr 2022 #15
Exactly. Do it until you turn blue! MineralMan Apr 2022 #17
I know I have an AOL disc around here somewhere. Lochloosa Apr 2022 #18
I'm afraid I used all of mine as coasters. MineralMan Apr 2022 #23
+100 Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #19
I do OK when the internet actually works. usonian Apr 2022 #20
Well, I didn't actually intend for this to be a serious discussion thread. MineralMan Apr 2022 #22
Humor can be a weapon for good. usonian Apr 2022 #26
I had a commodore 64 back in 85. Pobeka Apr 2022 #24
Never had one of those. My first PC was a PC clone. MineralMan Apr 2022 #25
Worst dial-up experience ever. usonian Apr 2022 #27
OK. I once filed a magazine article from COMDEX on a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100. MineralMan Apr 2022 #28
TI Silent 700 sl8 Apr 2022 #35
There's always Fidonet. hunter Apr 2022 #29
My BBS was connected to FidoNet in the late 80s, too. MineralMan Apr 2022 #30
IDK. 9600 baud? Those high speed modems can be dangerous... Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #34

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
2. Good plan!
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:16 AM
Apr 2022

I think I still have my Commodore-64 and its accessories. One problem is that I no longer have a landline for my modem. I guess I'll get rid of my smart phone, too.

I'm serious.

brooklynite

(94,625 posts)
4. Don't forget to cancel all your newspaper and magazine subscriptions
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:18 AM
Apr 2022

Corporate media, environmental impacts of cutting down trees, etc.

samnsara

(17,624 posts)
21. i did just that after trump** stole the election... I didnt come back above ground until
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:39 AM
Apr 2022

..Mike Flynn got busted.

Hugin

(33,167 posts)
5. Actually not a bad idea.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:18 AM
Apr 2022

A decade ago some neighbors of mine operated a small intranet of a few hundred users they called the Undernet.

I think it evolved from a BBS.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
7. Before I took it down, I had upgraded my Wildcat! BBS to have
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:22 AM
Apr 2022

two phone lines. I even added live chat. If I was at that PC and two people were logged in, we could have a three way conversation! Radical!

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
9. Those who are awake to "reality" are ...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:24 AM
Apr 2022

Good for you.
Those who are awake to "reality" are asleep to mindless diversions from reality.

Those who are asleep to "reality" complain about woke-ness and don't recognize their own nightmares.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
11. Well, if I have to cancel Facebook and Twitter, I might as well
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:40 AM
Apr 2022

cancel the entire Internet. Amiright?

TomSlick

(11,102 posts)
33. I've never had either a Facebook or a Twitter account and don't plan to.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 09:02 PM
Apr 2022

I find the Internet has other and better purposes.

I remember dial-up. I don't miss it.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
12. I just got my crystal radio set out and I've been listening to Walter Cronkite!!!
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:41 AM
Apr 2022
No more Internet for me!

keep_left

(1,784 posts)
31. Hey, you're the guy with the tube radio(s), right? Time to fire those up...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:38 PM
Apr 2022

...shortwave, baby! Voice of Korea! Juche!

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
32. Yeah, but I also have a crystal set.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:19 PM
Apr 2022

I've probably built 20 of them in my lifetime. My current one is an old-school one, with a galena crystal and a cat's whisker. Every once in a while, I put the antique headphones on and tune in a local AM station, just to remind me that people used to use them because they didn't have any choice if they wanted a radio.

Mostly now, though, I use an SDR dongle plugged into my desktop's USB port. Software controls it and I have a beautiful display on my spectrum analysis screen showing signals near the frequency I'm on. It can tune from 14 kHz to 3 gHz. The software can decode a wide range of signals, letting me explore most of the useful electromagnetic spectrum. It's fun. It's cheap. It's freaking amazing.

So, there's that. And yes, I have a few vacuum tube radios, just for fun and nostalgia.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
23. I'm afraid I used all of mine as coasters.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:49 AM
Apr 2022

Actually, I was very active on CompuServe for a long time. I even had an area for my shareware software publishing business on there. CompuServe hosted my mineral specimen website early on, too. I abandoned that website, though, when it became practical to host it on the real Internet, though. I was active on the Politics Forum there as well for years. I never signed up for AOL, though. I did use GEnie for quite a while, though.

Dial-up was interesting. Thank goodness it's gone, though.

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
19. +100
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:51 AM
Apr 2022

Insulating ourselves from other Americans with opposing views is a big part of how the United States is in so much trouble as a Democracy right now.

usonian

(9,836 posts)
20. I do OK when the internet actually works.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:33 AM
Apr 2022

I am signing up for the most advanced technology available here today. DSL. Verizon cell signal "breathes" so I have to go to airplane mode and back to get another tower. About 50 times a day.

That said, I use adblockers, and since ads are the cause of basically ALL the poisons of the internet, that would fix it overnight if everyone used one.

Please read "Surveillance Capitalism"

Very short explanation: Advertising made Quantity trounce quality. All the toxic behavior of major internet sites ("hate makes clicks" and so on.) is due to the need for quantity.

And why server farms the size of Delaware?

Because of ad surveillance profiling of users. Craigslist used to run on a dinky computer in Craig's closet. Without ad surveillance, vastly less computer power is needed.

THAT said, I use ZERO (anti)social media, but I use DU as a link aggregator for general news and Hacker News as a link aggregator for tech news. I read only what I *want* to see.

I try not to bitch without proposing a cure, and this is real simple.




MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
22. Well, I didn't actually intend for this to be a serious discussion thread.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:45 AM
Apr 2022

But, the need for cheap broadband internet access everywhere is high. You illustrate why that is so.

usonian

(9,836 posts)
26. Humor can be a weapon for good.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

Mark Twain is one of my heroes.

I basically opted out of the toxic internet long ago.

Everyone can have the same peaceful internet that I have in a few short steps (and deleting some accounts)

Humor, of course! I love it, but my humor can be so dry that people blamed me for the drought, so I think twice before posting.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
24. I had a commodore 64 back in 85.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:52 AM
Apr 2022

It could do 300 baud with a phone jack.

That was so AWESOME.

Dial up to BBS, even into work if I had to.

I have fonder memories of that commodore than a few folks I dated.

usonian

(9,836 posts)
27. Worst dial-up experience ever.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 12:14 PM
Apr 2022

Top this! Newton message pad with some forgotten modem. I took it on a vacation trip ahead of an anticipated internet assault on my servers.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
28. OK. I once filed a magazine article from COMDEX on a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 12:27 PM
Apr 2022

300 baud internal modem. I had to connect to the phone in the motel by taking the base off the phone and connected using alligator clips. I wrote the article, using its built-in text editor.

All the same, the little Model 100 was pretty OK for its time.

hunter

(38,321 posts)
29. There's always Fidonet.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 01:51 PM
Apr 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet

I never got any kind of welcome there, much less any traction. As I recall, it was a bunch of libertarian white guys. Maybe I didn't look around enough.

If anyone wants to go totally old school there's always amateur radio. It has a worldwide reach.




MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
30. My BBS was connected to FidoNet in the late 80s, too.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:13 PM
Apr 2022

Few of my users used it though. That was a long time ago, though.

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