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Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)All hail the Iron Duck.
keep_left
(1,784 posts)Even Drumpf's moronic "Truth Social" has a Section 230 clause in its TOS. They even ban users for mocking the platform itself.
Once he opens the floodgates of "free speech", Elon Musk will be suspending and banning people like crazy for horrible anti-Semitism and alt-right Nazism. As always, be careful what you wish for.
jaxexpat
(6,837 posts)There should always be those factions who vehemently oppose fascism (and death worship generally) in all its iterations. They should always make their case, condemning them, vowing to fight them and outlawing them as they occur. And there should always be those who would defend, even to the death, the right of people to have these, or any other, ideas. This conversation strengthens progressive's philosophies as it illuminates their pathway toward the elusive "more perfect union".
groundloop
(11,519 posts)jaxexpat
(6,837 posts)May all your gates all open when you approach and close with your passage.
keep_left
(1,784 posts)...have made it clear that if Section 230 goes, and if it is not replaced with something equally strong, the social media companies will either close up shop or at the very least will become entirely different entities than we have come to know. There will be much more moderation of posting because they will be held responsible. Hence Section 230, which even Drumpf's moronic "Truth Social" cites in its TOS. "Truth" and "Frank Social" (PillowMan's site) ban people all the time. All you have to do on "Frank" is use a swear word or two. One of those alt-Twitter sites even censored the word "Groyper" because of some dust-up with the followers of Nick Fuentes.
Any social media company that tries to run a "free speech" site is going to have problems very quickly. And that doesn't just mean neo-Nazi posts about Da Jooz, etc. There will be calls for violence, both of the dogwhistle and the foghorn variety. This has already happened with Reddit, 4Chan, 8Chan or whatever the hell it is now, and many others.
A good precept to keep in mind: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
anarch
(6,535 posts)Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #1)
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Hiawatha Pete
(1,799 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)The Ghost of Roy Cohn
BY TERRY MELANSON · AUGUST 24, 2014
EXCERPT...
In an interview with former NYPD detective James Rothstein, this author discovered that such operations do exist and go far back into Americas secret history. Rothstein is no conspiracy theorist. He is a legend in American law enforcement and speaks from experience. Furthermore, he gave me two notable examples from his time as a detective. Rothstein had an opportunity to have a sit-down with infamous McCarthy committee counsel Roy Cohn. During this sit-down, Cohn admitted to Rothstein that he was part of a rather elaborate sexual blackmail operation that compromised politicians with child prostitutes (Rothstein, no pagination). Cohn told Rothstein that this operation was being carried out as part of the anticommunist crusade of the time (no pagination).
Rothstein also had an opportunity to speak to infamous Watergate burglar Frank Sturgis. During this conversation, Sturgis revealed one of the reasons for breaking into the Watergate. According to Sturgis, there was a Pedophile Book hidden away at the Democratic National Committee headquarters (no pagination). The book was supposed to have a list of pedophiles on the American political scene (no pagination). One can only imagine the power G. Gordon Liddy would have held over the government if he had such a book in his possession.
I asked Rothstein if Roy Cohn was a real anticommunist or just using the fear of communism to justify his sex ring. It seemed like a fair question. After all, Cohn had argued against homosexuals being schoolteachers when he himself was a homosexual. Perhaps Cohns hypocrisy extended to his anticommunism. Rothstein made it clear that Cohn was a genuine anticommunist (no pagination). Anticommunist sentiments aside, evidence suggests that the sex ring operation started by Cohn was used for more than fighting the threat of domestic communists. Fugitive ex-CIA officer Frank Terpil has claimed that sexual blackmailing operations directed by the CIA were intensive in Washington during the Watergate era (DeCamp 179). Terpil also asserts that his former partner, Ed Wilson, was coordinating one of these sexual blackmail operations (179). In a letter to author Jim Hougan, Terpil revealed Wilsons modus operandi:
Historically, one of Wilsons Agency jobs was to subvert members of both houses [of Congress] by any means necessary . Certain people could be easily coerced by living out their sexual fantasies in the flesh . A remembrance of these occasions [was] permanently recorded via selected cameras . The technicians in charge of filming were TSD [Technical Services Division of the CIA]. The unwitting porno stars advanced in their political careers, some of [whom] may still be in office. (Qtd. in DeCamp 179)
According to John DeCamp, a former Nebraska Senator and Vietnam War hero, Wilsons operation was merely a continuation of the one set up by Cohn (179). When I asked James Rothstein if Palfreys outfit was a continuation of the sexual blackmail rings that began with Cohn, he answered in the affirmative (Rothstein, pagination). The NYPD veteran made it clear that Palfreys outfit could not exist in Washington unless it was a tool for the power elite and sinister factions of the intelligence community (no pagination). Somewhere in a Queens cemetery, the corpse of a high-powered attorney is smiling in his grave.
SOURCE:
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/the-ghost-of-roy-cohn/
The same Roy Cohn who taught Donald Drumpf also schooled Roger Stone and Jeffrey Epstein...
... Who knew what when? In Palo Alto, after Epsteins conviction, he was a guest at a dinner for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden that was hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. At the same dinner Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. Is money so powerful that it tramples all other considerations? As James Baldwin put it, I cant believe what you say, because I see what you do.
One of the most remarkable moments in Tyrnauers documentary comes near the end, when its no longer possible to pretend that Cohn isnt a liar and a fraud, when its no longer possible to deny that he lacks both shame and conscience. When Cohn was about to be disbarred in 1986 for defrauding his clients and for taking advantage of a dying and incompetent man, character witnesses began to emerge. There were letters to the court from William F. Buckley Jr., Barbara Walters, William Safire, and, of course, Trump, who wrote that Cohn has been extremely loyal and extremely honest. Were Cohns partieswas his protectionreally that good?...
Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a29130905/roy-cohn-documentary-wheres-my-roy-cohn/
Its conceivable Matt Gaetz got some learnin, too.
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PS: Thank you, Hiawatha Pete. You can tell a lot about a plutocrats proclivities by the pimps they keep.
Hiawatha Pete
(1,799 posts)Only to bring 45 back!
Wicked Blue
(5,838 posts)SunSeeker
(51,578 posts)KS Toronado
(17,274 posts)instead of his. Plus my gut feeling is he currently sells more EVs to Democrats
because repugs don't believe in global warming and like big oil companies.
pstokely
(10,529 posts)avoid dealer markup
Woodwizard
(845 posts)but Tesla will not sell any parts for a repair not even a door handle you have to bring them to a dealer for anything. I work on my own stuff so when we get to a point for a new vehicle we may get an electric but certainly not Tesla.
Buy a Ford.
Joinfortmill
(14,438 posts)Richard D
(8,755 posts). . . peak asshole
MOMFUDSKI
(5,566 posts)will have an account in 3 - 2 - 1 . . . .
Conjuay
(1,392 posts)Because the only thing I share in common with "The Bone Spur Bull Shitter" (AKA BS BS) is we were both permanently banned from twitter.
I will have to request a pardon if BS BS is allowed back.
After all, my offense was (when the big discussion was to whether BS BS would leave the White House once his term had ended),
I merely suggested they:
Drag him out by the ankles.
Face down.
Down a nice marble staircase.
Some snowflake Repugnantcan must have complained.
bucolic_frolic
(43,206 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)on the libertarian/conservative side of the scale. It'll turn into Trump's "truth" social without the big orange turd's name on it.
Now it's time for congress to heavily regulate social media, right after Muskboy buys it.
rwheeler31
(6,242 posts)he will. Just what we need another Fox platform.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)They'll put up with a lot as long as they don't have to change to another platform.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)and deactivated. Let the Great FU begin.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)but too few people are aware of Muskboy's character - or lack thereof - and will just ignore his horrendous ego as long as it means they don't have to do anything. Twit-away, tweeters!
I'm glad people like you have the foresight to see Muskboy's long term goals, but there aren't enough of you to make much of a difference, at least in my opinion.
I'd really love to be wrong about this though.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)I'm predicting that will be Elon Musk in a few years. He's already acting so much like a modern version of late 80's/early 90's Trump.
lame54
(35,295 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)Murdoch, AM Hate radio, and reality TV-cancer that they are, have devolved this nation into an idiocracy. Damn, I will miss Jeff Tiedrich, Rude Pundit, Auntie Crabbie, Badd Company, Professor Reich, and even John Dean.
c-rational
(2,595 posts)867-5309.
(1,189 posts)calimary
(81,350 posts)anarch
(6,535 posts)then people could invoke their 1st amendment rights and all that; otherwise I don't really care what rich dipshit has control over it frankly, but then again I don't use twitter anyway so what do I know
Pluvious
(4,314 posts)calimary
(81,350 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)that they could scrape that much cash up together.
Those "Joanie loves Chachi" residuals must be really raking in the big bucks.
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Samrob
(4,298 posts)Simeon Salus
(1,144 posts)Crush his stock like a bug.