I wonder if reddit will become more popular now

[vercetti2021]

Since Musk is gonna turn Twitter into Myspace 2.0. Reddit always was more entertaining and felt like an actual place to have decent and rational conversations with others. If people here are abandoning Twitter. Join Reddit. It's better anyway. No bots, no horseshit.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. And even more of a cesspool filled with alt-right trolls

Heck, why not go all the way and join 4-Chan if Reddit is your idea of meaningful dialogue.

[vercetti2021]

5. Depends on the subs you are in

Most of mine are actually nice communities. And I did the 4chan thing in my youth. Wasn't very fun.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. I've found even the "nice" subs get toxic

And Reddit has even less control than Twitter does. By choice it seems, when Reddit tried to clean up the toxicity the mods rebelled. Musk's free-speech free-for-all seems to be modelled on Reddit to my eye.

[vercetti2021]

8. Odd

I mean I've experienced bullshit but usually they are gone fast. I don't know. Maybe it's just me steering clear of most the bull. I never had issues in my trans or LGBTQ communities

[AZSkiffyGeek]

10. Maybe they've improved.

I bounced about 4 years ago because even a sub on fantasy novels inevitably had assholes railing about SJWs on a daily basis.

[vercetti2021]

13. Hadn't seen that yet

Just fun places for me though. I tend to avoid political subs. I follow lot of gaming subs which all really tend to be friendly and fun. Woodworking and restoration subs for my own self learning. I know conservative subs exist but I avoid em.

[keep_left]

38. It always goes in that direction eventually. Literally every topic I've ever seen. Maybe...

....there are one or two exceptions, but that's it.

There was a group called "Frenworld" that became one of the most toxic subs ever. It was nothing but Nazi Pepe memes. The sub got banned after a story about Frenworld's constant Holocaust denial ended up in an Israeli paper. That didn't work out too well for the mods at Reddit, and they had to do something. The problem is they didn't ban any of the members. So they started up a new sub, r/Apustaja, and most of the same members are still there. It's supposed to be apolitical, but get this: the group members are such basement-dwelling incel losers that they will literally sit around for years waiting to sneak a covert Nazi reference into a Pepe cartoon. The sub is watched by antifascist subs like r/AgainstHateSubreddits who have shown in detail what losers these guys (and they are almost exclusively men) really are.

The only thing that seems to get Reddit to moderate itself is negative press coverage.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

39. Of course they'll claim it's just for lulz

They aren’t really misogynistic Nazis, they’re just trolling… Most of those assholes in Charlottesville and 1/6 cut their teeth in the toxic subreddits and Reddit-fueled movements like Gamergate.

[keep_left]

42. Nazis always claim it's for the lulz when caught. They never, ever argue in good faith.

I think this was best stated by Sartre.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play.

They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

A discussion of this topic can be found here: https://newrepublic.com/article/139004/ironic-nazis-still-nazis

[DBoon]

21. technical and hobby oriented subs are just fine

NEVER had a problem with the few Reddit subs I follow

[AZSkiffyGeek]

40. I saw some comment on Twitter a couple days ago...

No matter what the hobby is, when you find an online group for your hobby, you’ll soon find a Nazi subculture, be it craft beer, furry fandom or knitting.

[renate]

43. Yup. My experience on Reddit has been nothing but positive

It’s all about the subreddits you follow, and that choice is up to you.

[ZZenith]

6. Not my experience at all.

Even in the political forums, the bullshit gets swatted down pretty quickly.

It’s not DU, of course, but for an open forum it’s nothing at all like 4-Chan.

[eShirl]

11. try r / wholesome

[Elessar Zappa]

24. I go to a pro-wrestling Reddit sub (don't make fun :) ).

Believe it or not, right wing bullshit is pretty rare there. I’d say I see more progressive opinions than fascist ones. But it could be an anomaly that’s not common to most of Reddit.

[Ohio Joe]

2. My guess is that twitch will be more of a go to...

Or maybe that is because it has become my favorite

[LeftInTX]

3. Apples and oranges

The media loves twitter, elected officials love twitter.
I never see the media on Reddit

[AZSkiffyGeek]

41. Only when a sub gets really out there

Or when Reddit tries to tamp down the subs that have gotten way out there.

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. probably.

Until one of the oligarchs buys it

[Sympthsical]

9. "no bots"

I see you're new to Reddit . . .

Reddit is not a Twitter replacement. The entire point of Twitter is to not think too deeply or search too hard for information and hot takes. Reddit, by design, is longer form comment sections. Some guy's stolen four word snark isn't going to be front page material.

Not only that, but Reddit is heavily moderated by both private moderators and admins.

Also, it's much younger and more male-centric. Piss off the wrong group of people, good luck!

I love Reddit and probably read/interact with it the most of all the social media platforms, because I've heavily curated it to reflect my personal hobbies and interests (step one: delete anything news or politics related from my feed, because those places are dumpster fires of echo chambers).

But it's too ideologically diverse. People used to the Twitter bubble would find it rough there. "Why doesn't this say what I want?!"

It'd be a pickle.

[vercetti2021]

12. I am new

I wanted to be in communities to help with my transition and needed support and advice. I just felt better having a safe space on trans and LGBTQ subreddits. I haven't seen the awfulness yet

[AZSkiffyGeek]

15. I can see those subs having pretty rigorous moderation

Considering some of the assholes that frequent Reddit, they'd need to be heavily moderated. But any interest that's more general is going to attract its share of trolls.

[vercetti2021]

18. They do

Thankfully. Otherwise I wouldn't be on there. But I know it isn't for everyone

[Sympthsical]

17. Some subreddits are fantastic

And in finding sympathetic ears and information during your transition, the LGBTQ subreddits are really good for that.

But Reddit as a whole is a very, very different place from Twitter. There isn't one overall moderation team just wandering around doing as they please. A lot of moderation is left to the individual moderation teams. Whenever the admins step in, there's always a minor uprising about it. As a result, admins there can be very hands off about everything. LGBTQ subreddit mods will obviously keep shitty right-wingers out.

And yeah, there are bots everywhere there, particularly in the large subreddits that make the front page.

[vercetti2021]

20. I mean I see advertising

But I didn't think bots were a problem there like they are on YouTube or Twitter. Maybe I'm not in those subs where they are frequently

[Sympthsical]

22. Bots are there to karma farm

When someone upvotes you, you get karma. Bots farm karma for various reasons (to sell accounts for advertising purposes, collect data, etc).

If you don't know what you're looking for, you'd never notice them.

Reddit also gets heavily astroturfed by political organizations and corporations.

That's why I stick to my curated interest and hobbies subreddits and generally leave the main pages alone.

[Tree-Hugger]

25. Karma farmers

Reddit has bots. They are there to farm for karma points. People sell accounts that have high karma.

Reddit has fantastic subs, but it also has absolute shithole subs as well. Incels, RWers, trolls, etc all find a place on Reddit. I'm a mod for a few subs and even the most mundane can get hit with right wing trolls and reporting doesn't always help.

[vercetti2021]

28. Incel subs got purged

Only thing left are incel subs that make fun of them

[Tree-Hugger]

32. Oh....they still exist

Less findable and less obvious, but they remain. Reddit has worked hard on a purge of a lot of toxicity, but it is for from perfect.

[vercetti2021]

34. Doesn't surprise me

Thought IncelTear and NiceGuys are still the funniest subs to make fun of these entitled lil shits

[Tree-Hugger]

36. Yes!

I love those subs.

[GenThePerservering]

44. I'm in several subreddits that are majority women

There is NO tolerance for trolling in those groups. None. They don't even get to the point of pissing off members because the mods are on them like a flash due to the inevitability of bigots and incels getting on there when they think they smell tender meat - um, no, not so much. Dumb or clueless remarks are one thing, but those the members just deal with, usually just laughing at them or trying to help them out.

Other subreddits I'm in, I haven't seen problems, either (interest groups and humour groups), with the focus kept on the subject.

Since I was on 4Chan years ago, I do know toxic.

Reddit is actually a relief.

[Torchlight]

14. Twitter's been king of the garbage pile for a while.

And a while is a too long time in internet-years. Seems as good a time as any for an app no one's ever heard of go super-viral w/ the kids and transfer it to the adults.



(I have zero skin in the game-- I don't know twitter from adam, but widgets are widgets: they're all the same, except for the packaging and the word on the street)

[chowder66]

16. There are 3 places I'm looking into

I'm going to keep my twitter account but I'm thinking of joining commongroundsocial.com. There is talk of Mastadon and counter.social

commongroundsocial.com is currently getting flooded with new user traffic so they are down at the moment....

Eugene Wilkie
@ResusCGMedia
· 43m
Replying to @DemocratMarine
yes. we are pointing to a new server and fixed a bunch of backend stuff. We had a flood of new users and want to be prepared for it.

[DBoon]

23. personally, I'd love to see Internet Relay Chat back

It's still around though it seems to be mainly for specialized tech support.

[brooklynite]

26. Want to know what's going to happen? Nothing.

No floods of people from Twitter to Reddit or other platforms.

No floods of people from Truth Social and other right wing platforms back to Twitter.

People used Twitter before. They'll use Twitter after.

[Sympthsical]

27. Unless they ban X-rated content

Which is what Tumblr did, and that did not go so well for them.

This morning, that's the topic I keep seeing brought up among my friends (who are mostly gay men). They seem to think/fear all the sex-related content will get crushed.

I doubt that's going to happen. It'd be suicidal.

[vercetti2021]

29. Onlyfans nearly did it

Almost killed their entire platform before they reversed it. Tumblr tried to ban CP and such with banning everything. It was a terrible approach to the problem

[Sympthsical]

30. I don't use OnlyFans

(because I'm baffled at the idea of paying for that sort of thing), but I was totally gobsmacked by that decision. It was like, "What do you think people are using this for?"

I haven't had someone link to something off tumblr in years. I guess fan fiction, television shipping, and etsy samples weren't enough to sustain interest. It's rare to watch a company sink themselves in the popular culture so completely.

I doubt Twitter will change much. If anyone is even slightly dependent on exposure in some way to make money, they'll go where allowable.

[vercetti2021]

31. Be interesting to see what happens

Personally I'd love to see Musk turn it into Myspace 2.0 and ruin it. It would just shake my head and wonder why idiots believe they are experts in every single thing that they aren't?

[LeftInTX]

33. TikTok is more like Twitter

[PortTack]

35. Thx for the idea..quitting twitter. Will look at Reddit and twitch

[LeftInTX]

37. Reddit is more like DU than anything

I don't see how it could be a substitute for twitter, which more like TikTok than anything.

Reddit has forums for everything, including right wing stuff... Anyway Reddit is forum based. It's not social media.