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bigtree

(85,999 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:43 PM Apr 2022

I'm not going anywhere

George Takei @GeorgeTakei
I’m not going anywhere. Should this place become more toxic, I pledge to strive even harder to lift up reason, science, compassion and the rule of law. The struggle against fascism, misinformation, and hate requires tough fighters. I hope you stay in the fight, right beside me.




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I'm not going anywhere (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2022 OP
HELL YES 867-5309. Apr 2022 #1
Given the choice to get on a bus with an asshole or not I will choose not everytime. CentralMass Apr 2022 #2
Agreed nt Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #3
Hear, Hear! Mugu Apr 2022 #4
Count Me In Mr. Sulu DanieRains Apr 2022 #5
Calling people "a disease" is literally a hallmark of fascism. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #15
Yep DanieRains Apr 2022 #29
No but what I'm saying is that if you call Republicans a disease, that's literally fascism, WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #39
Not me, just deactivated my account. Jon King Apr 2022 #6
It's getting desperate for them to make excuses to support a racism and un-American fascist owner rockfordfile Apr 2022 #25
I respect George's decision, and he is not wrong, BUT 2Gingersnaps Apr 2022 #34
This is exacty how I feel about it. sybylla Apr 2022 #41
Good on George TheProle Apr 2022 #7
THANK YOU, Captain Sulu! calimary Apr 2022 #8
I will be there. I'm a fighter, not a quitter. CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #9
We are all beings of finite capacities. Maru Kitteh Apr 2022 #17
If we are to win, for our country, we need fighters on EVERY front. CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #20
Well god bless him! George Takei has a large group of followers FakeNoose Apr 2022 #10
I'm with Mr. Sulu Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #11
He's not wrong if he stays, neither are you. If this is the venue you choose to fight the good fight 2Gingersnaps Apr 2022 #35
I have stopped posting on Daily Kos Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #40
Not me. I am out. CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #12
Me too. Katcat Apr 2022 #13
I never could tolerate twitter. patphil Apr 2022 #14
Proud to join Starfleet! Initech Apr 2022 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #18
THANK YOU, Captain Sulu! calimary Apr 2022 #19
Right??? 2Gingersnaps Apr 2022 #36
If I wanted to quit I would have to sign up first, but I'm busy reading stuff about Twitter on DU. dameatball Apr 2022 #21
I support those who stay and FIGHT.. Cha Apr 2022 #22
lol bigtree Apr 2022 #23
One can hope. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #30
Not your grandson's Sulu? Marcuse Apr 2022 #24
There is room in the fightfor both temperments. soldierant Apr 2022 #26
Good for George, but... JarOCats Apr 2022 #27
I left and I don't feel badly about the decision but wish those who stay well. BadgerMom Apr 2022 #28
Chuds are so ejbr Apr 2022 #31
You go, George!!! XacerbatedDem Apr 2022 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Apr 2022 #33
Absolutely! Martin68 Apr 2022 #37
Stay and Fight for Truth! Don't tuck tail and run. OverBurn Apr 2022 #38
heck yes . long live the fighters . AllaN01Bear Apr 2022 #42
I am not going anywhere either LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #43
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
5. Count Me In Mr. Sulu
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:43 PM
Apr 2022

The sign on the back of my van says "Republicans are a Disease".

I shall carry on the fight.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
29. Yep
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:20 AM
Apr 2022

There are worse things I could say about Republicans, but their sickness in all their separate ways could best be described as a disease.

If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and it swims like a duck.

It's a duck.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,364 posts)
39. No but what I'm saying is that if you call Republicans a disease, that's literally fascism,
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 01:14 PM
Apr 2022

and it's in the same post in which you say you stand with George Takei against fascism.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
6. Not me, just deactivated my account.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:50 PM
Apr 2022

No one changes their minds either way. I'll continue to donate and vote. If you folks want to continue arguing with anonymous jerks, go for it.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
25. It's getting desperate for them to make excuses to support a racism and un-American fascist owner
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:23 PM
Apr 2022

Last edited Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:22 AM - Edit history (1)

Those would be the same people that would support LA Clippers racist owner years ago. They would make every excuse. When they support racist un-American pos Musk then they're contributing to what any pos like that does. You lose any legit stance on anything when you're help funding the things you're against. This is something pretty clear.

They're showing their true colors. Or they have addiction to that shit and they could careless.

It's time to quit Twitter. You push to have other choices.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
34. I respect George's decision, and he is not wrong, BUT
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:19 PM
Apr 2022

I boycott Chick fila a because my dollars do not support bigot bird, I am not gay, but the same God that made them (whatever your belief system might be, I won't argue that) made me.

I boycotted Papa Johns, it might have cost him, what? Fifteen cents more on his Pizza to give health care to his employees? Even with healthcare, the cancer that took my husband's life cleaned us out of what we had both worked thirty years for first. But we still had a fighting chance because he had healthcare, we just lost the most important thing, him.

I still boycott Wal Mart because they were the first to start this work people full time, call it part time, pay no benefits, pay their employees as little as they can get by with so they have to rely on government assistance even working and hour or two less than "full time." Wal Mart became insanely wealthy enough on this system that they were able to buy the government that gave them trickle down. So now they double dip on both ends-they don't pay their fair share of taxes and those of us who do pay our fair share help compensate their employees so they can eat, receive medical care, and have a roof over their heads. I don't mind helping their employees, I mind supporting their grift. Oh, and shove that "people just don't want to work" crap, you don't deserve their loyalty but they give it anyway.

I left FB because of the toxic environment, Cambridge Analytica, and the Russian bots they knew and did nothing about, just like they knew the mental health risk of teenagers on line, but chose profit. Elon Musk is a misogynist, racist, fascist. The one thing he is not is a "free speech absolutist." He does not care about my free speech, he cares about his. And in his own Bond Villain cartoonish way, millions of people will see things his way, or else. I will not help him succeed in any of his endeavors. Fuck that guy.

sybylla

(8,517 posts)
41. This is exacty how I feel about it.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 03:14 PM
Apr 2022

I boycott and avoid companies who support terrible things. I cannot imagine any way I can stay on if the place turns vile.

I am currently debating if I want to shut down my account now, for a chance at financial impact - message sending, or if I will wait for the purchase to be finalized/approved. I doubt the board and CEO will care either way. Sounds like they believe it's a done deal.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
20. If we are to win, for our country, we need fighters on EVERY front.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:09 PM
Apr 2022

Whatever you do will matter & it will be appreciated, by me & everyone else on our side of this fight.

FakeNoose

(32,662 posts)
10. Well god bless him! George Takei has a large group of followers
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:27 PM
Apr 2022

I imagine he's protected from the evil tweeters, for the most part. I mean he can see them if he wants to, but he won't be hit in the face with that nastiness every day.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,984 posts)
11. I'm with Mr. Sulu
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:34 PM
Apr 2022

Y'all may leave if you wish. I'm not stopping anyone. Just don't trash him...or those of us who choose to stay with him.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
35. He's not wrong if he stays, neither are you. If this is the venue you choose to fight the good fight
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:32 PM
Apr 2022

Good on you. We need fighters on all fronts and if you can hold your nose and fight on there, I'm good.

I start my day at DU, then Daily Kos, then I drifted over to Twitter-that was my first cup of coffee of the day. This is not "cancel culture" as they love to call it, to me this is consequence culture. How many of us took the fight to Parler, GETTRE, Gab, or Truth Social? It is no fun for the trolls to bully, harass, threaten, and try to intimidate in an echo chamber. They need to "own the libs."

In Musk's world "absolutist free speech" is having a "plantation" in his California plant, misogynist jokes, free use of the "n" word. I will not be a part of anything that involves that fascist lout. He will take something someone else built and use their vision to deprive millions of people (like Jeff Tiedrich said! Love that guy!) of their voice to elevate his and his ilk.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,984 posts)
40. I have stopped posting on Daily Kos
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 02:44 PM
Apr 2022

almost entirely. I did write two diaries that were tolerably well received, one about my son's suicide when it was still raw, and one about the death of Daisy Coleman. But I found out that saying anything whatever against Israel will get you roundly trashed and even suspended (and it wasn't even nasty, it was just what I've said here about Israel losing its soul) so in the words of a Chinese friend, I have bye-byed that place.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
12. Not me. I am out.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:38 PM
Apr 2022

Never did much on there anyway so if my deactivation helps in showing numbers of people jumping ship then so be it. Fuck Musk. That guy is a turd.

patphil

(6,186 posts)
14. I never could tolerate twitter.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:44 PM
Apr 2022

Too much crap, not enough substance.
I prefer DU, the environment is warm and comfortable, and the interactions are just what I want.

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2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
36. Right???
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:34 PM
Apr 2022

I will happily check out his wit and wisdom here, with loving respect to other DU'ers who can take one for the team and stomach Musk. Thanks team!!

soldierant

(6,896 posts)
26. There is room in the fightfor both temperments.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 09:26 PM
Apr 2022

Those who can fight in the middle of it, and those who can fight from afar.

Fortunate or those who can choose to fight by their temperament, not by being stuck in one position or the other. If you have that choice, by all means don't listen to those who think your choice is wrong, but make the right choice and make the most of it.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
27. Good for George, but...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 10:10 PM
Apr 2022

...he has 3.3 million followers. Those of us with small accounts get eaten alive by Muskovites. No one has our backs.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
28. I left and I don't feel badly about the decision but wish those who stay well.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:20 PM
Apr 2022

Joy Reid made an interesting point today. She noted that the social networking sites created by and for right wingers have failed. She suggested the right doesn’t want to communicate with others like themselves. They want us to be their audience. I don’t want to be their audience.

We’re buying an electric car this year. It’s not a Tesla. I want to help the environment, not Musk’s bottom line. Same thought here. His views are very different from mine. For instance, the man is no friend of unions. That’s no surprise. He also doesn’t wish to pay taxes. That’s why he left California for Texas. Texas can have him.

I enjoyed reading many threads written by informed people. I enjoyed the witty takes. I blocked people who annoyed me. I thought of Twitter as an entertainment. No one changed my outlook; I didn’t attempt to change anyone else’s. It is not a platform conducive to reasoned persuasion.

I’m not unhappy to be out.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
31. Chuds are so
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:00 AM
Apr 2022

easy to dunk on, I wouldn't miss it for the world. Sometimes I feel bad about abusing stupid people, but I do make exceptions.

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