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demmiblue

(36,894 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 11:23 AM Apr 2022

Fears mount inside White House that Manchin won't agree to any deal

Biden aides have tried gauging the senator’s interest in a potential agreement, but time is running out

President Biden last spring proposed spending more than $4 trillion to transform the American economy. In negotiations last fall, after some of that money ended up in a bipartisan infrastructure law, the administration lowered its request to roughly $2 trillion. Now, with time running out before November’s elections, many White House officials say privately that they’d consider themselves fortunate to secure a deal worth even $1 trillion.

Biden’s shrinking ambitions are largely the result of failed negotiations with Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.), the ever-elusive 50th vote for the president’s agenda in an evenly divided chamber. White House officials are confronting the “real fear” that they will fail to reach any deal with Manchin — even one that leaves out most of what Biden had initially hoped to accomplish, according to three senior administration officials and three outside advisers in communication with the White House, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity to comment on internal talks. A year after Biden introduced his climate and social spending plans, the White House is running out of time to get Manchin onboard, with many lawmakers in Congress viewing July 4 as a crucial deadline for action.

In recent weeks, White House officials have quietly tried gauging Manchin’s interest in a package that would consist primarily of clean-energy initiatives, prescription drug reform and higher taxes on the rich and corporations, the people said. The ideas discussed internally include more than $500 billion of deficit reduction, the people said. On Monday, a Manchin spokeswoman reiterated that he supports measures to boost U.S. energy production, lower prescription drug costs and raise tax revenue from corporations and the rich.

But despite his support for these provisions generally, Manchin has not yet made clear to the White House precisely what he would support in a final agreement, the people familiar with the administration’s discussions said. Manchin privately told lawmakers in recent days that he wants Congress to approve a bipartisan energy deal in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which would complicate an already difficult timeline for a broader spending proposal, according to two other people familiar with the matter, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to reflect private talks. A bipartisan group, including Manchin, met on Monday night to discuss energy legislation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/04/26/white-house-manchin-biden/
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Fears mount inside White House that Manchin won't agree to any deal (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2022 OP
Well, let's get +52 Senators then!! aeromanKC Apr 2022 #1
We are working to replace Terrible Toomey in PA SallyHemmings Apr 2022 #17
Manchin's voters have spoken BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #2
Difficult to pass any significant spending legislation this year. Next year, depends on midterms. Hoyt Apr 2022 #3
Is he holding out until the last minute, or will he be a stubborn asshole again? sakabatou Apr 2022 #4
stubborn asshole again HUAJIAO Apr 2022 #6
Again? Still is more accurate...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #18
Manchin has to justify poverty to Appalachia bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #5
Ya think?!1 UTUSN Apr 2022 #7
When does the push begin aocommunalpunch Apr 2022 #8
I have feared that for awhile... liberalla Apr 2022 #9
What incredible insight from the geniuses running the country. RockRaven Apr 2022 #10
Just mounting now, eh? Sympthsical Apr 2022 #11
Well,duh I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #12
As much as I feel like its a waste of time, Biden has to keep trying In It to Win It Apr 2022 #13
Wait - they're realizing this just now? Novara Apr 2022 #14
No kidding. n/t Hugin Apr 2022 #15
That isn't a fear that's Bettie Apr 2022 #16
I'd of told them that for less than half what they pay the folks just now figuring this out. Midnight Writer Apr 2022 #19

aeromanKC

(3,327 posts)
1. Well, let's get +52 Senators then!!
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 11:27 AM
Apr 2022

I'll try here in MO and hope for Akins 2.0, but really hope WI, PA, NC, FL, OH, TX among others help out too!!

BeyondGeography

(39,382 posts)
2. Manchin's voters have spoken
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 11:29 AM
Apr 2022

They are enjoying the show.

He won’t budge and Biden shouldn’t waste another minute on him.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Difficult to pass any significant spending legislation this year. Next year, depends on midterms.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 11:29 AM
Apr 2022

aocommunalpunch

(4,245 posts)
8. When does the push begin
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:05 PM
Apr 2022

to acknowledge this "make them irrelevant" attitude to the public at large? I don't see any calling out of these two saboteurs so that people realize NOT getting their laws passed is place at their feet and their Republican friends. Stop treating them like they're our friends and colleagues. They lay with the enemy. Make that plain and MAYBE you can get the votes to make them irrelevant. Otherwise, it's all just performance theatre and nobody means any of their outrage.

RockRaven

(15,006 posts)
10. What incredible insight from the geniuses running the country.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

None but them could have realized that.

Sympthsical

(9,120 posts)
11. Just mounting now, eh?
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:11 PM
Apr 2022

Thank you, expert professionals, for joining the rest of us in this balmy location I like to refer to as last year.

In It to Win It

(8,285 posts)
13. As much as I feel like its a waste of time, Biden has to keep trying
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:17 PM
Apr 2022

He has to keep trying to get something. We built this majority to govern for the good of the people. Biden has to keep trying so that we can govern.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
16. That isn't a fear that's
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 12:24 PM
Apr 2022

just facing reality.

Manchin seems to like the attention he gets by playing Lucy with the football.

Why would anyone believe anything he says?

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