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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 07:48 PM Apr 2022

America's Frontline Doctors' Prescriber Stripped of All State Licenses



https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/98407

A physician who was prescribing ivermectin through the America's Frontline Doctors' telemedicine platform no longer holds an active medical license in any state.

Licenses for Kathleen Ann Cullen, MD, of Seminole, Florida, are now labeled "delinquent" in Florida and "inactive" in North Carolina, according to a search of state board websites.

Cullen's license had been revoked by Alabama and Kansas last year, but her status in the two other states had allowed her to continue seeing patients via telemedicine through America's Frontline Doctors. Each virtual appointment cost $90 each, according to NPR, and would often involve providing prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to patients with COVID-19. Neither drug has been authorized by the FDA to treat the disease, and data have shown that neither offer medical benefits as a COVID-19 treatment.
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America's Frontline Doctors' Prescriber Stripped of All State Licenses (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 OP
Good. canuckledragger Apr 2022 #1
My guess is Dr's like this also prescribed a lot of Vicodin and Oxy to people over the years. ZonkerHarris Apr 2022 #2
For quite a bit more than.... SergeStorms Apr 2022 #7
Q) What do you call the med student who graduated last in their class? A) Doctor Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #3
It's possible I played a small role in this. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #4
Thank you for whatever role you played here LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #5
Well done Lucky Luciano Apr 2022 #13
Thank you so much Oppaloopa Apr 2022 #19
Nicely done. Thank you. n/t FSogol Apr 2022 #21
Bravo! (nt) Richard D Apr 2022 #25
Good work. :) K&R ificandream Apr 2022 #26
Excellent! calimary Apr 2022 #27
Idiots can score some smack on the street IronLionZion Apr 2022 #6
Some doctors are really horrible people Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #10
+1. Christopher Duntsch: dalton99a Apr 2022 #12
Yes!!!! Yikes!!! Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #17
And Dr. Oz IronLionZion Apr 2022 #18
I wonder what drugs good ol Oz prescribes for tRumpy??? His Ritalin perhaps? Ziggysmom Apr 2022 #24
Maybe TFG will hire her as his personal physician 70sEraVet Apr 2022 #8
The joke would be that TFG would hire her... MontanaMama Apr 2022 #11
Ivermectin has been legal for open purchase in some states. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #9
The paste version for horses is available over the counter lonely bird Apr 2022 #20
A friend of ours, who is otherwise a very intelligent and highly... 3catwoman3 Apr 2022 #14
The shadowy world of COVID telemedicine struggle4progress Apr 2022 #15
She looks crazy as fuck. live love laugh Apr 2022 #16
Good! Let her sell her quackery somewhere else. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2022 #22
This is another problem like bad police. Other doctors know before anyone else. mjvpi Apr 2022 #23
When the God complex drops, every doctor knows he can make a mistake and is halfulglas Apr 2022 #29
Malpractice insurance should be tied into universal health care. mjvpi Apr 2022 #30
It's a strange society we live in where removing someone from their job NullTuples Apr 2022 #28

canuckledragger

(1,667 posts)
1. Good.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 08:23 PM
Apr 2022

Fucking idiot shouldn't be a doctor at all or have the power to subscribe anything if she's going to knowingly push things that have no effect as a cute, endangering others that way.

Completely irresponsible.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
7. For quite a bit more than....
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:14 PM
Apr 2022

a $90 consultation fee. Florida was awash with pain pill pushers in the 80s, 90s, and even in the 00s. They'd have bus loads of "patients" coming in from Kentucky and Tennessee. The "Doctors" would get a $200 fee per "patient", the "patients" would get $100 each and a meal or two, and the pill pushers would get all the pills which they'd sell on the streets for $10 each.

The federal government finally cracked down on that, because if they waited for the republicans in Florida to do something they'd still be waiting. Florida. It's like a whole other country.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
4. It's possible I played a small role in this.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 08:43 PM
Apr 2022

I reported all of the doctors from that site who were offering to prescribe Ivermectin in Ohio - without an Ohio license - to the Ohio medical board. I got a follow-up call, and went through the website and added physicians to the list who started after my initial reports.

The person I spoke with, in a follow-up to my initial report, indicated they were unaware of this illegal venture - but quite interested.

FYI: As a general rule, the location of the patient governs whether you are permitted to prescribe to that particular patient. Ohio forbids virtually all telemed care (with very few exceptions) by anyone not licensed in Ohio.

While I'm pushing for the ability to do telemedicine to change - at least as to rare diseases - I was quite happy to have a handle to (perhaps) make a small difference as to these people who have no business practicing medicine.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
27. Excellent!
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 03:37 PM
Apr 2022

Thank you for your vigilance! AND for your willingness to act on that vigilance!

See what a difference even just ONE person can make?

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
6. Idiots can score some smack on the street
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 08:58 PM
Apr 2022

or take their chances with horse paste or look to sketchy online pharmacies overseas

I'm surprised it took so long for this quack to lose her licenses. These people are dangerous

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
10. Some doctors are really horrible people
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:25 PM
Apr 2022

They don't become good people just because they become doctors but a lot of people think that. Not implying you do.

One doctor my spouse use to visit went to jail after we stopped seeing him. He was a rude a**hole. No we didn't report him except to our insurance company. But we were glad we dropped him.

Ben Carson was a nerosurgeon and didn't protect himself against COVID. I bet he was a horrible doctor and surgeon.

You should listen to Dr. Death podcasts, I think there are 3 seasons out now. The 1st season was about a nerosurgeon who was killing patients and leaving them crippled for life because he was just so incompetent. He had a PHD and a doctorate. Yet he couldn't tell the difference between muscle and bone when he operated. Luckily, for some, he only operated on about 150 people. He was the only doctor to go to jail for what he did in the operating room. It took decades before he stopped operating on patients.





dalton99a

(81,590 posts)
12. +1. Christopher Duntsch:
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:52 PM
Apr 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Duntsch

Duntsch completed his residency having participated in fewer than 100 surgeries. Typically, neurosurgery residents participate in over 1,000 surgeries in the course of their residency.[9] He was suspected of being under the influence of cocaine while operating during his fourth year of residency training, and was sent to a program for impaired physicians. He remained there for several months before being allowed to return to the residency.[11] Several of his friends recalled his going to work after a night of doing drugs, with one of them saying he would never allow Duntsch to operate on him.[7]

...

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
17. Yes!!!! Yikes!!!
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 09:00 AM
Apr 2022

What a horrible person and nerosurgeon. I thought of Ben Carson when I listened to the podcast. He was probably nearly as bad.

But they both made tons of money being incompetent. Capitalism encourages incompetence. Because the motive to do a job becomes money not an interest and talent in the job.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
18. And Dr. Oz
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 09:42 AM
Apr 2022

supposedly he was a well respected doc way back in the day but has been promoting quackery on his show for years. That's why Trump endorsed him over the other Republicans.

70sEraVet

(3,514 posts)
8. Maybe TFG will hire her as his personal physician
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:15 PM
Apr 2022

She will probably work pretty cheap at this point.
I can't think of a better match!

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
9. Ivermectin has been legal for open purchase in some states.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:19 PM
Apr 2022

Ivermectin has been legal for open purchase in some states.

Is it still legal there?

Can a legal product be shipped to other states without a prescription?

I'm guessing not because there would be huge market if so.

lonely bird

(1,689 posts)
20. The paste version for horses is available over the counter
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 10:38 AM
Apr 2022

At least that is what I saw on a quick search.

3catwoman3

(24,051 posts)
14. A friend of ours, who is otherwise a very intelligent and highly...
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 10:12 PM
Apr 2022

...educated individual, has been intermittently self-dosing with Ivermectin based on recommendations for one of the members of AFD - a Dr. Lee Merritt, who is an orthopedic surgeon. Not internal medicine, not infectious disease, not virology.

I'm tempted to send him this, but he would just brush it off.

struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
15. The shadowy world of COVID telemedicine
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 11:10 PM
Apr 2022

February 9, 20225:00 AM ET
Heard on Morning Edition
GEOFF BRUMFIEL

... fueled by conspiracy theories about vaccine safety and alternative treatments, many on the political right incorrectly believe ivermectin is a secret cure-all for COVID. As millions of Americans fell ill with COVID last summer, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported ivermectin prescriptions were at 24 times pre-pandemic levels. The agency says prescriptions again rose during the latest omicron surge.

A significant number of these prescriptions come from a small minority of doctors ... The same doctors frequently promote anti-vaccine conspiracy theories ..

Cullen, 54, .. spent most of last year under investigation by the state of Alabama, which eventually revoked her medical license in November ... The cause was her involvement in a separate telemedicine company, according to .. counsel at the Alabama Board of Medical Examiners.

Cullen was ordering a battery of expensive .. tests .. without .. seeing or speaking to the patients ... It was so bad ... that she was ordering prostate cancer screenings for female patients ...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/02/09/1079183523/what-a-bottle-of-ivermectin-reveals-about-the-shadowy-world-of-covid-telemedicin

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
23. This is another problem like bad police. Other doctors know before anyone else.
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 01:12 PM
Apr 2022

Doctors and police are human beings. Every body makes mistakes. But incompetence is a pattern that professionals should not tolerate.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
29. When the God complex drops, every doctor knows he can make a mistake and is
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 05:03 PM
Apr 2022

Afraid of being overjudged for that, so they are afraid of testifying against another doctor, even one who is grossly incompetent. I've worked for doctors and they know anyone can make a mistake. My nephew's then girlfriend was talking about her son's bad back made worse by his surgeon and stated how his current doctor told her his previous surgery went wrong. She was thinking of suing and I told her the doctor who told her that would never testify. I was right. She couldn't even get a lawyer to take the case.

I had a friend who was harmed by the pelvic mesh debacle. She could not even get a surgeon to remove it (which entailed extensive surgery) until she told the new surgeon she had no intention of entering into the class action suit, she just wanted the mesh removed. Doctors should not tolerate incompetence but covering your ass sometimes means helping to cover someone else's because they don't want to be the ones who ruin someone else's career.

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
30. Malpractice insurance should be tied into universal health care.
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 08:36 PM
Apr 2022

In doctor’s defense, the human body doesn’t as predictable as a piece of electronic equipment. But the CYA aspect of this could be mitigated by spreading out the risk. Maybe then the inevitability of mistakes would be mitigated and the intolerance of ineptitude would be encouraged.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
28. It's a strange society we live in where removing someone from their job
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 04:21 PM
Apr 2022

if they're high status enough (doctors, lawyers, politicians, etc) is seen as being the equivalent to putting lower status people in prison.

There's a whole separate mechanism to "punish" them but it rarely includes criminal charges.

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