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brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:05 AM Apr 2022

Alvin Braggs reasoning for not bringing charges against Donald Trump.

Washington Post

People familiar with Bragg’s thinking said his hesitation in going forward is due in large part to his lack of faith in Cohen, a former Trump attorney and a convicted felon. Cohen wrote a book about his life as a Trump crony, and frequently criticizes the ex-president. He has made clear that he is willing to testify about how business was done at the Trump Organization if a case is brought.

He says that he met with investigators from the DA’s office about a dozen times before Dunne and Pomerantz left, but that no one from Bragg’s team has contacted him since. Pomerantz’s resignation letter, which was obtained by The Washington Post, echoed what Cohen has said publicly about the nature of the evidence, including statements of Trump’s financial condition that were submitted to lenders and other parties.

Trump’s “financial statements were false, and he has a long history of fabricating information relating to his personal finances and lying about his assets to banks, the national media, counterparties, and many others, including the American people,” Pomerantz wrote.

Cohen pleaded guilty to tax evasion, campaign finance violations and giving false information to a bank for his role in negotiating hush-money payments to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, allegedly on Trump’s behalf, during the 2016 campaign. Trump has said he was not involved with paying off Daniels and has denied having an affair with her. Cohen also pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about his role in a Trump Organization project in Russia.

While using witnesses convicted of crimes, especially lying, can be problematic, it is not unheard of for prosecutors to do so, especially when they have few other ways to make their case. Cohen’s prison sentence is complete, so prosecutors cannot offer him a benefit in exchange for his participation, which could boost his credibility before a jury.


Not nearly as much fun as claiming bribery or blackmail.....
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Alvin Braggs reasoning for not bringing charges against Donald Trump. (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2022 OP
Wow, OK. I better leave it at that. gab13by13 Apr 2022 #1
I fully agree with you. If that is the way a prosecutor thinks, no mob Bev54 Apr 2022 #17
Oh, what bullshit. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #2
Oh! Ok. We'll just take his word for it then. paleotn Apr 2022 #3
Slowly letting the air out of the balloon. Next up, Merick Garland. jalan48 Apr 2022 #4
+1 .... nt Hotler Apr 2022 #12
Trump rso Apr 2022 #5
Once again I ask the question, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #7
Trump rso Apr 2022 #11
I like the reasoning for letting Trump skate again, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #6
Still a bad reason for not bringing the paper case and making Putrid pay back taxes and fines ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #8
Amazing how many want the newly elected, Democratic DA removed, all because he didn't indict Hoyt Apr 2022 #9
"Maybe he's guilty, but I don't want to prove it" dalton99a Apr 2022 #10
That's not exactly a good excuse. W_HAMILTON Apr 2022 #13
Generally in those cases the fellow criminals have not been convicted of perjury. former9thward Apr 2022 #27
Hope that helps you sleep soundly. CivicGrief Apr 2022 #14
I always sleep soundly... brooklynite Apr 2022 #15
It's a figure of speech. CivicGrief Apr 2022 #18
Schrodinger's Prosecution. It is neither dead nor alive until someone opens the box. Midnight Writer Apr 2022 #16
So he's chicken shit. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #19
Second OP today on this subject, right? hamsterjill Apr 2022 #20
There is only one reason, he is a coward. fightforfreedom Apr 2022 #21
Why do you imagine that the average voter... brooklynite Apr 2022 #23
All I hear are things that were ALREADY KNOWN before Bragg ran for DA FakeNoose Apr 2022 #22
There is no evidence but.... kentuck Apr 2022 #25
How is it that for some people one only needs a D next to their name iemanja Apr 2022 #24
Alvin Braggs reasoning for not bringing charges against Donald Trump FelineOverlord Apr 2022 #26

gab13by13

(21,375 posts)
1. Wow, OK. I better leave it at that.
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:18 AM
Apr 2022

There were more people than Cohen involved. There were other people corroborating Cohen's testimony. Then there are documents, documents don't lie.

My #1 reason for calling bs on Bragg dropping the case is the two prosecutors' opinion. Those two prosecutors have much more experience and credibility than Alvin Bragg. If those two prosecutors believed they could win the case that is good enough for me.

All of the reasons that you listed to cover for Alvin are saying that Alvin knows more than the 2 prosecutors who worked on the case for 2 years, and Pomerantz worked for free. Two years down the drain to let a criminal walk again.

Bev54

(10,059 posts)
17. I fully agree with you. If that is the way a prosecutor thinks, no mob
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

boss would have ever been indicted in NY city. Ridiculous but then I guess that is the only excuse he has.

rso

(2,273 posts)
5. Trump
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:34 AM
Apr 2022

When one door closes, another one opens. On Monday, evidence of Donnie’s attempt to commit election fraud will start being presented to a Fulton County GA. Grand Jury, and Lordy, we have tapes in that case.

gab13by13

(21,375 posts)
7. Once again I ask the question,
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:45 AM
Apr 2022

why didn't DOJ run a parallel investigation? I wish the Fulton County DA well, she has her hands full, has to keep her 2 prosecutors names a secret for security reasons, and has bought them bullet proof vests.

gab13by13

(21,375 posts)
6. I like the reasoning for letting Trump skate again,
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:42 AM
Apr 2022

Michael Cohen can't be trusted. lol. Michael Cohen is a convicted felon. lol. Michael Cohen is a convicted felon because he worked for a mob boss who ordered him to deliver a hush money check to Stormy Daniels that was signed by Donald Trump. So we can't believe Cohen because Cohen worked for an unindicted criminal, Donald Trump. Merrick Garland chose not to prosecute Trump for the Stormy Daniels hush money when Bob Mueller laid all the evidence out and designated Trump as "individual one."

Once again we are reminded that Trump is above the law, that would have been a much shorter and believable reason why no one prosecutes him.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
8. Still a bad reason for not bringing the paper case and making Putrid pay back taxes and fines ...
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:51 AM
Apr 2022

... etc.

He should face the same laws anyone else would face in such an egregious flaunting of the law

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Amazing how many want the newly elected, Democratic DA removed, all because he didn't indict
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:57 AM
Apr 2022

trump first day on the job, with or without sufficient evidence.

Cohen would be a great witness. He'd have us in stitches.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
13. That's not exactly a good excuse.
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 11:30 AM
Apr 2022

If not having faith in unsavory characters -- even ones WITH PAPER TRAIL EVIDENCE -- is considered a good excuse not to move forward with indictments, I assume we will see very few indictments from this D.A. given that many criminals are done in by their fellow criminals in exchange for plea deals and the like.

former9thward

(32,035 posts)
27. Generally in those cases the fellow criminals have not been convicted of perjury.
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 02:03 PM
Apr 2022

And sent to prison for it. Also in those run of the mill cases the target criminal will plea out and thus there will be no trial where an informing criminal can be cross examined and discredited.

brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
15. I always sleep soundly...
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 11:45 AM
Apr 2022

I don't obsess over politics every hour of the day, and I don't dream up conspiracies to worry about. I find that helps.

(Now, excuse me, I have a party to plan for this evening...)

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
18. It's a figure of speech.
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 12:46 PM
Apr 2022

It doesn't surprise me that you don't care whether Trump is ever held accountable and it bothers you that others do. Enjoy your social climbing.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
20. Second OP today on this subject, right?
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 12:54 PM
Apr 2022

So, if no one goes after Trump because he might get off, the result is that Trump stays untouched.

If no one goes after Trump, he stays untouched.

What’s the difference?

Someone needs to try, at least. There’s nothing to lose.

brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
23. Why do you imagine that the average voter...
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 01:40 PM
Apr 2022

...who doesn't watch endless hours of cable news shows and doesn't hang out on political blogs, and who are presently concerned about crime in their neighborhood, will decide on retaining Bragg or not based on what happens to Trump?

FakeNoose

(32,672 posts)
22. All I hear are things that were ALREADY KNOWN before Bragg ran for DA
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 01:02 PM
Apr 2022

Why did Alvin Bragg even want to run for office, is the question they need to ask. In his campaign Bragg frequently told NYC voters that he wouldn't back off from the Chump indictments. And now that he's in office, that's exactly what he's done.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
25. There is no evidence but....
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 01:45 PM
Apr 2022

...it looks like he may have been paid off.

Just the appearance, mind you.

Maybe he knew more than the prosecutors that were investigating the case?

iemanja

(53,037 posts)
24. How is it that for some people one only needs a D next to their name
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 01:44 PM
Apr 2022

To be infallible? This all the while ignoring there is a great deal of difference among Democrats on the issue, including between Bragg and his own department as well as the former DA.

He doesn't need to be blackmailed to do the wrong thing. The very text you cite gives reasons why Cohen could be a credible witness. The jury is ultimately the ones who make the determination about witness credibility, but that supposes a Prosecutor actually wants to hold a target accountable to the law, which Bragg obviously doesn't.

That is the question you must defend, Brooklynite. Why do you agree that Trump should not be held accountable to the same laws others have to follow?

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