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Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 10:22 PM Apr 2022

GOP Disinformation about Hunter Biden







Unrolled thread here
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1520566006565027841.html

I could assign this screenshot as the final exam assignment in a disinformation class.

The Bad Actor here isn’t the Babylon Bee (they’re just unfunny). And it isn’t Twitter either.



For those who don’t know the Babylon Bee is the latest conservative attempt to do comedy.

It’s what The Onion would be if the Onion wore polo shirts with popped collars and shouted “DO YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS?” at random people on the street.

So the article itself is literally fake news.

It comes from a satire outlet. It’s bad satire, but that’s just because the writers are untalented.

The problem is that the House GOP account quote-retweets the article with a credulous comment. That makes it seem like an actual news story.

Now it is effectively disinfo. Its a story meant to foster distrust of the government, based on a wholesale fabrication.

The House GOP account will wink and insist they were just kidding. (“Can’t you take a JOKE?!?”)

And there’s a reading of this in which, sure, they’re just going along with the bit.

But we also know full well that most readers won’t notice or recognize the sourcing.

So the House GOP gets to increase distrust of Biden, receive applause from conservatives, and anger some liberals.

It’s a triple-win. All rewards, no penalties.

And that promotes the belief among Republican Party operatives that adhering to truth is a sucker’s bet.

So the country becomes a bit-less-governable (you can’t run a two party system with tons of veto points when one of the parties treats outright lying as a good-days-work).

And it isn’t Twitter’s fault. It’s the House GOP’s fault.

BUT! (…)

Twitter, as the platform that shapes the communication incentives, is one of the few actors with the agency to do something about this.

Basically we can wishcast a better-informed public, or pray for more responsible elites, or ask Twitter to change the incentive structure.

Ultimately, we’re gonna need better-behaved elites. The House GOP has plenty of agency, and they should be mocked and shamed for this everyday bullshit.

But the platforms also built this gamified communication system, so they have an ethical responsibility as well.

That’s basically what we’re talking about when we talk about content moderation in 2022.

Initiatives like Twitter’s “healthy conversations” effort are designed to add “friction” into patterns of communication that unintentionally foster and reward trashy behavior.

Trashy people hate this.

Executives at the platforms also don’t like it, because it’s HARD work, everyone will yell at them when they make mistakes, and they’re bound to piss off powerful actors.

And, really, there’s no easy fix.

You don’t ban the satire site for being unfunny.

You don’t flag the satire as disinfo. (It isn’t… at least, not exactly.

Do you penalize the official Republican Party org account for what they will insist was a joke? (That sounds bad.)

So you end up with big, complicated initiatives as the only way to improve things.

Or you throw up your hands, treat the whole thing as somebody else’s problem, and watch everything turn slowly more toxic by design.

The core problem is shitty elites behaving shittily b/c they know they’ll be rewarded for it.

The secondary problem is the reward structure, which is harder to fix but also more immediately fixable.

This stuff is complicated, and it’ll get worse with Elon deciding it’s not.

This is all just a riff on an essay I wrote in 2019 for the SSRC’s MediaWell project, btw.

If you want the more thorough, non-tweetstorm version, you can find it here.

On Digital Disinformation and Democratic Myths
If we can't show that propaganda and disinformation have direct, persuasive effects, then why should we care? David Karpf argues that the answer lies in a foundational myth of democracy. Rampant onlin…
https://mediawell.ssrc.org/expert-reflections/on-digital-disinformation-and-democratic-myths/
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Tickle

(2,525 posts)
1. If they do take
Sun May 1, 2022, 08:36 AM
May 2022

over Congress it will be nothing but Hunter Biden and Joe Biden laptop for the next two years

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
2. Joe Biden laptop, Do tell, as I only know about Hunter's manufactured laptop story
Sun May 1, 2022, 08:47 AM
May 2022


I haven't heard the news about Joe's laptop.


🤷

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
3. Why do Democrats NEVER call out corruption
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:49 AM
May 2022

On the part of the GOP? Most Republicans, definitely including Trump, do as bad if not much worse and never get called out on it. It’s beyond comprehension!!!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
4. The Republicans don't care about corruption...we need to run on issues that voters care about
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:55 AM
May 2022

Only those who hate Democrats give a damn about Hunter Biden. He is not elected to anything nor does he work in the White House like Trump's spawn did.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
14. They must care about it because
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:09 PM
May 2022

They keep harping on Hunter Biden. We are letting them win on this issue- not even slightly trying. It’s beyond frustrating.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
5. The problem is the DOJ is still investigating completely false and made up allegations were most
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:59 AM
May 2022

... of it isn't even unlawful.

The DOJ is looking partisan in an attempt not to look partisan in ending the investigation with no valid allegations of unlawful actions.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
7. Professional liars.
Sun May 1, 2022, 11:09 AM
May 2022

“I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them, and they think it's Hell." — President Harry S Truman

Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
11. They've gotten substantially far-right
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:36 PM
May 2022

Think of it this way..... The DNC using an Onion story as factual reporting.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
13. They've shifted right and have become a little hit or miss
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:27 PM
May 2022

Which is fine. Some of their stuff is pretty hilarious. The Twitter employees being sensitive, then the actual employees slapping a filter on them, was pretty great. (Although, part of me wants to believe the Twitter employees were poking fun at themselves, although that's not a given. They seem humorless).

Still, there's funny stuff in there.

The thing is, some people are so in with their politics or ideology, they literally cannot take any kind of joke. Those people, no matter what their side, worry me. Look at Trump. The man literally cannot stand a joke at his expense.

Even now, there's a minor meltdown because Trevor Noah made a (very funny) joke about Kristin Sinema.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
12. Glad they posted it. Should make a great campaign ad against them
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:46 PM
May 2022

Imagine you're Johnny "Whatever Fox News Says" Republican. You see Hunter Biden's image at the beginning of the ad. You salivate, because you think you're about to hear how bad Hunter is again (and you never tire of that). But, what's this? The ad's about how the Republicans in Congress are full of crap when it comes to Hunter Biden.

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