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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSince November, the GOP lead on generic congressional ballot has dropped from +10 to +7 to -1
...Republicans lose ground when it comes to which party voters see themselves casting ballots for in November and the parties are now at rough parity. WaPo
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Ohio Joe
(21,756 posts)The magaloons will continue to try and sell the fantasy Dems are doomed but its all bullshit. Ive said it before and Ill say it again I dont believe for one second we will lose either house and November will be a very happy time.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)I hope by Nov it is down to -21. The downside is DeSantis and Abbott will probably decertify the election if they don't like what they see.
dchill
(38,502 posts)Chuck? Hallie? Andrea? What say you?
70sEraVet
(3,503 posts)ananda
(28,866 posts)Thanks.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)And it will probably get better after the House hearings. In fact, I'm sure of it.
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)I am so tired of pundits assuming Democrats are going to lose in November. Sometimes it feels like wishful thinking on their part.
mcar
(42,334 posts)the way they do the "Biden is doomed" polls.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)Joenobody
(90 posts)Their house advantage is reduced, but not gone.
Need to focus on winning back stare houses as well.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)unfinished maps are in Red (legislature controlling) states (NY being the only one that is not and there is good chance NY will now be a wash or a +1 max for us)
The Rethugs have just ignored some of the states supreme courts (NC is an example) and have rammed though partisan maps, they stalled out the clock, so the 2022 election maps are locked in despite being turned down by the courts
in NY we are caving in and will redo it
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2022/congressional-redistricting-maps-by-state-and-district/
Joenobody
(90 posts)Had enough r leaning seats that they would almost have a majority from that alone. Many of those seats have over to toss ups.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)Joenobody
(90 posts)Which is true.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Tl;dr is that lead looks like a better word and lede is manufactured jargon.
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2019/lead-vs-lede-roy-peter-clark-has-the-definitive-answer-at-last/
August 13, 2019
I am writing this essay for two reasons:
1. To help dispel (or should I say dis-spell) a preference for lede over lead to describe the beginning or introduction of a news story.
2. To offer a century of wisdom on the purpose of a good news lead and the best way to write one.
My interest in these topics was ignited recently when the Poynter website briefly expressed a preference for lede, a spelling I had avoided since my arrival in St. Pete in 1977. For me, the spelling has been lead. After all, a well-written first sentence leads the reader into the story. In addition, lede felt like, not jargon, but slang, from the same generation as 30 to represent the end of a story, and hed as short for headline.
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Mz Pip
(27,449 posts)Listening to the media it seems like Democrats are soon to be an endangered species, verging on extinct.
True Blue American
(17,985 posts)The cable misinformation off
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)And make them wear their lies, their grifting, and their treason--betrayal of America.
Do not let up. Make them wear their evil shit on their traitor ties.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)R 46.4
D 42.2
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html
I am not sure where some of the tweet polls in the OP are coming from.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)If a trend is there it has not shown up yet. I posted the latest that most go by.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,623 posts)RCP doesnt conduct polls, its an aggregator like 538. RCPs numbers are an average, and likely contain numerous outliers that favor Republicans, since RCP leans right.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)Unless someone is far, far to the left which most Democrats are not.
Of course RCP reports an average. What else would they be?
Fiendish Thingy
(15,623 posts)https://www.thefactual.com/blog/is-realclearpolitics-biased/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics
That bias shows up in its polling averages because of the polls it chooses to include, and the lack weighting given to each polls known biases. 538, on the other hand, includes bias weightings in its reporting, and excludes polls that use questionable methodology, have a history of false reporting/push polling, or other invalidating factors.
Edited to add:
Out of 11 polls in RCPs average, four have an established bias towards the GOP:
Susquehanna (Federalist Society)
Insider Advantage (IIRC, Had Trump winning by double digits the week before the 2020 election)
Trafalgar
Rasmussen
538s current average includes 13 polls, and excludes Trafalgar and Rasmussen.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)A whole one point difference than RCP. So I guess they to the right also?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/
Fiendish Thingy
(15,623 posts)538s average is far more balanced than RCPs.
13 polls vs. 11 for RCP, and 538 excludes the Trafalgar and Rasmussen polls that RCP includes and is more transparent about the biases and reliability of each pollster.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)lees1975
(3,860 posts)are probably accurate. You also have to look at the dates, number of respondents and grades of the polls. RCP does an "adjusted average" that skews to the right. 538 just does a running average, but there's three recent polls at the top that show the trend moving toward the Democrats.
That's still too close. But some confrontation on the wackateria social issue lunacy that some Republicans take seriously, and January 6th is going to shift those poll numbers drastically. But the key to winning midterms is getting out the vote.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)No real difference between them and RCP
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)He made their job fun. Now all they can do this cycle is create a faux horse race for ratings, and talk about legacy fuel prices.
I still think Jan 6th Committee will drop an Oct. Surprise, and we pick up seats in both houses.
GQP is a dying party. Literally, COVID has been rough on them.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,623 posts)Along with the overturn of Roe v Wade this summer.
Remember, this is a generic poll, and doesnt account for gerrymandering, voter suppression or states where the legislature can reject election results.
A generic poll would need to be Dems +10 before I would feel comfortable.
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)Because, looking back, I haven't heard any of the talking heads talking about how the polls are all showing that the Democrats are going to get shellacked in November.
Basically when there isn't any bad news for Democrats to report, these people don't bother reporting the good news. They just stop referencing it all together. Just like how Trump's approval was always climbing, yet he pretty much was mired in the low-to-mid 30s. When it was 32 rising to 35, they'd report it was rising. When it was 35 falling back to 32, they'd just ignore it.
It's a shame how much of the media in this country frames the narrative in terms of stories like this.
Mad_Machine76
(24,414 posts)hope it keeps dropping
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Kick and rec.
senseandsensibility
(17,062 posts)so we won't hear much about it. Still, thanks for the good news!
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texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)I can't think of why it would other than the time of the shift.