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LessAspin

(1,154 posts)
Sun May 1, 2022, 11:33 AM May 2022

Elon Musk posted "use Signal" on 1/7/21

Oh FFS. Elon Musk posted “use Signal” on 1/7/21, the day after the goddamn insurrection. If there was any doubt as to his intended audience, Enrique Tarrio, the Proud Boys national chairman, cleared it right up. @January6thCmte @RepRaskin












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Elon Musk posted "use Signal" on 1/7/21 (Original Post) LessAspin May 2022 OP
Musk was a cheerleader for the insurrectionists dalton99a May 2022 #1
What does "use signal" mean? brush May 2022 #3
oh some stupid messaging app. FFS CurtEastPoint May 2022 #6
Highly encrypted untraceable messaging app. Lucky Luciano May 2022 #11
Ok, so what was he asking people to do? brush May 2022 #12
It sounds to me... jmowreader May 2022 #13
Either to not get busted bragging about being an insurrectionist...or trying to kill WhatsApp. Lucky Luciano May 2022 #14
Get off Facebook, Parler, GAb, GETTR, 4 Chan, 8 Chan and Reddit where they are known to be, 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #21
Ahhhhh. Thanks. He's a danger. brush May 2022 #27
+1, uponit7771 May 2022 #52
Pointing out to people how to avoid prosecution JCMach1 May 2022 #32
Musk apologists in 3....2....1... SergeStorms May 2022 #2
I have started to wonder if the Musk fanboys are Jm7603 May 2022 #4
Yes... LessAspin May 2022 #8
+1. The significance of Signal among the coup plotters: dalton99a May 2022 #28
I don't believe they're trolls... SergeStorms May 2022 #9
It is hard to change one's opinion once formed. I Jm7603 May 2022 #10
I've always looked at him as a "goofy oddball". SergeStorms May 2022 #18
What's there to like about him??? Cozmo May 2022 #36
I just figured they had money in his stock & were just looking after their own interests yaesu May 2022 #29
Could be. That does make sense. Jm7603 May 2022 #39
Been here a month and calling DU'ers paid trolls? Ohio Joe May 2022 #50
Yeah, sorry. I'm outta DU. I thought it was a group Jm7603 May 2022 #51
Yeah, we don't post dubious crud just to bash someone like Musk, Bragg, etc. Hoyt May 2022 #7
PC Mag said he did it to discourage people from using WhatsApp that changed privacy policy on Jan 4. Hoyt May 2022 #5
Yeah. The connection (Musk/Tarrio) is tenuous stopdiggin May 2022 #15
Signal liberal_patriot_md May 2022 #17
and all manner of other people stopdiggin May 2022 #23
Sure. liberal_patriot_md May 2022 #16
Seems pretty obvious they are not connected, but Musk haters aren't after truth. Hoyt May 2022 #19
Anymore than Musk fluffers, just saying. 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #24
At least I don't resort to offensive terms like-- "fluffers." Just saying. Hoyt May 2022 #25
Offensive? I didn't know Musk fanboys were so thin skinned. He can sure dish it. 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #60
Block away. Show one racist or misogynistic post from me. You can't. Hoyt May 2022 #61
post a bit of detail and truth...and the musky outrage! evaporates. Funny how that works. Alexander Of Assyria May 2022 #26
His timing was just dead on day after US being attacked by traitors and needed to hide their ... uponit7771 May 2022 #53
Few days after the competitor changed privacy policy. There is no evidence Hoyt May 2022 #55
Again, there's rational solid reasons not to give Musk benefit of the doubt. Few would be shocked or uponit7771 May 2022 #56
thanks for this background post Celerity May 2022 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 2022 #59
it's a good thing the Constitution Jerry2144 May 2022 #20
That can be changed. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2022 #57
This what an oligarchy looks and sounds like. jalan48 May 2022 #22
Does Musk have his sights set on being President some day? KS Toronado May 2022 #30
He was not born in America JCMach1 May 2022 #33
Thanks for jogging my memory, I forgot KS Toronado May 2022 #40
He won't need to be president. Mr.Bill May 2022 #38
+1. He can buy at least 50% of Congress with his spare change dalton99a May 2022 #42
We will find out pretty soon if he has more money or hubris JCMach1 May 2022 #43
Yea, he can afford to buy more than one. KS Toronado May 2022 #44
+1, MAGA pols are cheap uponit7771 May 2022 #54
Musk and January 6 Oscarthegreat May 2022 #31
Well, Musk did blame Jan 6th on Facebook and Zuckerberg. People here would probably agree, EXCEPT Hoyt May 2022 #35
There is tremendous overlap between conservatives and anti-semitic Hitler supporters IronLionZion May 2022 #34
I think Musk is a loose cannon who speaks before he thinks because he believes he's a stable genius bucolic_frolic May 2022 #37
I did not have "buy Twitter & display his political ignorance to the world"... CaptainTruth May 2022 #41
Hope Tesla workers unionize, they're gonna need it! Ziggysmom May 2022 #45
Political trends in America 2008-2021 aren't rocket science... CaptainTruth May 2022 #46
Any better argument for taxing the wealthy and actually funding programs including NASA? LT Barclay May 2022 #47
Perhaps two words isn't enough to convey advice that detailed. BobTheSubgenius May 2022 #48
The MAGA Muskrat Blue Owl May 2022 #49

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
13. It sounds to me...
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

…like he wanted them to go to this app to get together and “get their story straight.”

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
14. Either to not get busted bragging about being an insurrectionist...or trying to kill WhatsApp.
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022


Enrique Tarrio, one of the worst humans alive, certainly interpreted it the first way.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
21. Get off Facebook, Parler, GAb, GETTR, 4 Chan, 8 Chan and Reddit where they are known to be,
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:06 PM
May 2022

and bury their organizing, plotting, criminal activity a little deeper electronically.

brush

(53,787 posts)
27. Ahhhhh. Thanks. He's a danger.
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:19 PM
May 2022

I fear twitter will become a sewer of extremist, insurrectionist, Putin-loving screeds if Musk get's his version of free speech installed.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
2. Musk apologists in 3....2....1...
Sun May 1, 2022, 11:53 AM
May 2022

There's more than a few on DU.

Fewer for me now, due to the miracle of the ignore button. 😊

Jm7603

(165 posts)
4. I have started to wonder if the Musk fanboys are
Sun May 1, 2022, 11:58 AM
May 2022

on his payroll somehow. They can't truly be believing much of what they say. Trolls, maybe?

LessAspin

(1,154 posts)
8. Yes...
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:13 PM
May 2022

I've thought this for a while now. It would certainly be a relatively inexpensive and effective use of his public relations efforts.

Until recently I was agnostic when it came to Elon. Never saw the appeal but he seemed harmless enough. Elon has quickly disabused me of those notions.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=303155

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
9. I don't believe they're trolls...
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:19 PM
May 2022

since some of them have been DU members since Musk was still in High School. Paid? Could be, but I doubt it.

I think they're impressed with his wealth and business acumen, such as it is.

Who knows for sure, but they are a loyal and vociferous group.

Jm7603

(165 posts)
10. It is hard to change one's opinion once formed. I
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:31 PM
May 2022

think we all thought highly of Musk at first. As evidence keeps coming out of his new(?) RW leanings and dangerous positions as a person able to buy virtually any form of influence he wants, I have changed my mind and moved on to fear and trepidation. I truly hope I am wrong and he really is just a goofy oddball with great business acumen.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
18. I've always looked at him as a "goofy oddball".
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:59 PM
May 2022

In his early years I thought he was harmless. I'm now convinced that isn't so.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
29. I just figured they had money in his stock & were just looking after their own interests
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:37 PM
May 2022

I don't like the guy because he spouts fascist ideology & I generally dislike people who suck so much wealth out of the country. He is smart & has taken technology to a whole new level, I will give him that.

Jm7603

(165 posts)
39. Could be. That does make sense.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:16 PM
May 2022

Plenty of companies to invest in out there that are not run by total assholes, but to each his own. And sometimes the worst companies are pretty good at hiding their evil ways. Musk just doesn't seem to care.

Jm7603

(165 posts)
51. Yeah, sorry. I'm outta DU. I thought it was a group
Sun May 1, 2022, 09:30 PM
May 2022

of voters that thought we should support Democrats and their principles against the nuts out there. Musk says the Democrats are extremists and the left has gone insane and some think that is fine. I didn't name anyone or attack anyone. Just wondered out loud. This is not the group for me. Buhbye. Wish I could get my donation back. I was excited to be here.....

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. PC Mag said he did it to discourage people from using WhatsApp that changed privacy policy on Jan 4.
Sun May 1, 2022, 11:59 AM
May 2022
Maybe people ought to check things before posting.

Musk tweets 'Use Signal' in an apparent attempt to discourage people from using WhatsApp, which has been asking users to agree to a new privacy policy.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/elon-musk-tells-followers-to-use-signal-messaging-app-amid-whatsapp-privacy

Elon Musk asks people to use Signal app instead of WhatsApp and Facebook over privacy issues

https://www.wionews.com/world/elon-musk-asks-people-to-use-signal-app-instead-of-whatsapp-and-facebook-over-privacy-issues-355704

However, it is generally understood that his advice came in response to WhatsApp’s new terms of service published on January 4.
The messenger, which uses Signal software, has said that users will have to consent to allowing the app to share their data with its parent company Facebook if they wish to continue using it.

https://english.alarabiya.net/business/technology/2021/01/11/Explainer-Why-is-Elon-Musk-telling-people-to-use-the-Signal-app-

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
15. Yeah. The connection (Musk/Tarrio) is tenuous
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:55 PM
May 2022

if not entirely imaginary. And Signal has been around (and in considerable use by a large swath of people - including LE, business, tech leaders and pols) for a fair amount of time.

No fan of Musk (and that goes back well beyond his latest 'twitch') - but I think I'll stick to criticizing people for their actual sins (or real associations).

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
23. and all manner of other people
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:09 PM
May 2022

who have a modicum of interest in privacy (for whatever reason). And in fact - it's mind numbingly brainless that so many (Jan 6th and otherwise) continue to be tripped up by texting about their stupidity and ill deeds. Just how dumb are you anyway? (meaning the cheaters and malefactors of course)

liberal_patriot_md

(194 posts)
16. Sure.
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:55 PM
May 2022

It took him three days to respond to a change in privacy policy that just somehow was a day after the insurrection.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
60. Offensive? I didn't know Musk fanboys were so thin skinned. He can sure dish it.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:12 PM
May 2022

And he certainly likes to crush others free speech or human rights. Hysterical that your avatar is Woody Guthrie, who would be utterly repulsed by everything Musk stands for. He sure thought very poorly of "Old Man Trump."

In my defense, I thought fluffer was a goofy name for a dog, you know, like "Putin's Poodle", so When you took offense, I googled.

"Fluffer is also a name for fluffy dogs in DoggoLingo, an internet language of affectionate terms for dogs and other animals, like pupper and smol, that took off in the 2010s. Fluffers also answer to an even fluffier name: floof, entered on Urban Dictionary by 2008."

I had no idea what the other meaning was, never heard of it, probably because I don't travel in those ***ahem*** "art forms."

Had I known I would have used a more formal "lap dog." Block me, I have read you in other posts, you can be certain I will block you. Misogynists and racists are not my cup of tea.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
53. His timing was just dead on day after US being attacked by traitors and needed to hide their ...
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:39 PM
May 2022

... messaging.

I don't blame people for ***NOT*** giving him the benefit of the doubt

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
55. Few days after the competitor changed privacy policy. There is no evidence
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:56 PM
May 2022

Musk is involved in Jan 6th crud, other than hateful speculation from detractors swiftboating him.

And, whether you believe it or not, he won’t kick you off Twitter for your opinion, if the deal even goes through.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
56. Again, there's rational solid reasons not to give Musk benefit of the doubt. Few would be shocked or
Sun May 1, 2022, 10:58 PM
May 2022

... surprised if he was directly involved.

Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Jerry2144

(2,103 posts)
20. it's a good thing the Constitution
Sun May 1, 2022, 12:59 PM
May 2022

only allows natural-born citizens to be president. He seems to want to follow Agolf Twitler's lead.

But since he appears to have hatched from some egg (Silurian, perhaps) he doesn't meet the natural born, or human, requirement

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
30. Does Musk have his sights set on being President some day?
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

Many political seats are won by those who have the most money to throw at advertising their lies & bullshit.
Musk has a lot of $$$$$$

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
42. +1. He can buy at least 50% of Congress with his spare change
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:26 PM
May 2022

Maybe $1M-5M apiece for the House of Representatives, $10M-50M apiece for the Senate


JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
43. We will find out pretty soon if he has more money or hubris
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:27 PM
May 2022

Stick a pin in it ... There is something off about Musk

 

Oscarthegreat

(121 posts)
31. Musk and January 6
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:44 PM
May 2022

Does any anyone know if Elon Musk ever condemned the January 6 coup attempt? I know he has condemned the Democratic party for being taken over by "extremists", in response to their support of labor unions, which hates above all, but I don't recall him ever condeming or saying anything negative about Trump or the January 6 coup.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. Well, Musk did blame Jan 6th on Facebook and Zuckerberg. People here would probably agree, EXCEPT
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:56 PM
May 2022

for fact Musk said it.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
34. There is tremendous overlap between conservatives and anti-semitic Hitler supporters
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:54 PM
May 2022

so that can cause confusion for some people

But seriously, using Nazi filters catches a lot of conservatives including elected Republican officials.


Why Won’t Twitter Treat White Supremacy Like ISIS? Because It Would Mean Banning Some Republican Politicians Too.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
37. I think Musk is a loose cannon who speaks before he thinks because he believes he's a stable genius
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:10 PM
May 2022

But I could be reading tea leaves from the CEO Playbook

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
41. I did not have "buy Twitter & display his political ignorance to the world"...
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:25 PM
May 2022

...on my "What Will Elon Musk Do Next?" bingo card, but here we are.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
46. Political trends in America 2008-2021 aren't rocket science...
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022

...as evidenced by the fact that Elon Musk understands one topic but not the other.

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
47. Any better argument for taxing the wealthy and actually funding programs including NASA?
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

I know we have many other priorities also, but I'm tired of the extremely wealthy being the ones to decide where public funding goes.

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