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SBU: Russia planned a terrorist attack to blame on Ukraine. (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2022 OP
Is Putin needing justification for his next move? Irish_Dem May 2022 #1
Sweden had an air intrusion EndlessWire May 2022 #2
RU is already spread thin in UKR. They'd be foolish to take on more fronts. Irish_Dem May 2022 #3
I don't. EndlessWire May 2022 #4
Yes that sub needs to go to the bottom of the sea. Irish_Dem May 2022 #5
Yeah. EndlessWire May 2022 #6
Yes NK will be a China ally. Irish_Dem May 2022 #7

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
2. Sweden had an air intrusion
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:08 PM
May 2022

by a Russian owned observer aircraft recently. Russia has threatened both Sweden and Finland over NATO membership. So, I am hoping that this doesn't mean Russia is up to mischief in that direction.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
3. RU is already spread thin in UKR. They'd be foolish to take on more fronts.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:11 PM
May 2022

But they could use the pretext of a NATO attack to conscript more RU soldiers, I suppose. But they would be untrained mostly.

Russia has made plenty of foolish decisions in this war, so who knows.

I think they are just saber rattling with Finland and Sweden.

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
4. I don't.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022

They have repeatedly warned Sweden and Finland. I wouldn't put it past them to deliberately stage a provocative act just to follow through with their threats, and then blame it on someone else.

Putin clearly has Belarusian troops to pick from, as well as Kaliningrad. Plus, he hasn't mobilized conscripts from the streets of Russia yet.

I agree, this is a very stupid war. Putin thought that he could take Kyiv (however we are spelling it these days), but he couldn't. But, the real objectives are to own the seacoast, and I think the whole seacoast was always the objective. And, he'll try for that little blob of Ukraine down past Odesa up to the border there.

We need to slip a couple of subs in there to take out that Russian sub shooting down near Odesa. Just sayin'.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
5. Yes that sub needs to go to the bottom of the sea.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:38 PM
May 2022

Putin has designs on control over Europe. Scaring the US and NATO into compliance.

Putin wishes to be a 21st century superpower, and he must first get regional control. China is planning the same in Asia.

EndlessWire

(6,536 posts)
6. Yeah.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:53 PM
May 2022

And, I think NK has designs to get in on it. Kim is sure hurrying up there.

I just watched that tree ring video where Krakatoa changed the entire world for at least two years. It wouldn't take much to shock us all into doing other things than make war, although I think we are running out of time. Damn them all.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
7. Yes NK will be a China ally.
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:56 PM
May 2022

China may have NK do some of its dirty work.

I know, I have had the exact same thoughts.

Global pandemic, global climate change, poverty, hunger.

And some humans choose to spend their time and resources bombing the world back to the stone age.

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