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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPolitically, I think it is useful to look at Jan 6th as two different events.
Those being the proceedings in the chamber and the attack on the Capital. I don't think that most swing voters view the proceedings as ominous as most Democrats. However, the attack is a different story. The great majority of the public is deeply disturbed by that. If the Jan 6th committee can show that Trump, the administration, and multiple members of Congress are duplicit in this act, it's possible that the electorate could deem the Republican Party to be unacceptable.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)So, yeah, its hard to dance around that.
The second events clearly makes GOPer rubes invading Capitol insurrectionists.
But we are going to need hard evidence not yet released, or even speculated, to convict anyone higher up than Roger Stone. Lots of bombshell news, that fizzles under examination.
Admittedly, we can make GOPers higher up the totem pole look even more unfit for office. But, everyone knows that. Some just dont care.
There is a real risk of a backlash if there is not hard evidence beyond Mark Meadows asked Hannity to remind voters that every vote counts. How did that become the most recent bombshell?
If they still manage to convict trump, Ill gladly eat crow dung and post a video here.
lees1975
(3,874 posts)And do a little more research and digging.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Cruddy question and from October, but think it represents how people feel:
dpibel
(2,851 posts)I'm thinking the hardcore GOP is about 35% of the total electorate.
79% of that is about, gee, 26%.
That changes the way that picture looks a lot, don't it?
But you go ahead and doom. Don't let me stand in your way.
(I know you won't.)
brooklynite
(94,683 posts)If you ask "the great majority" if they supported the attack on the Capitol they'll say no. However its not an issue that dwell on. They care about kitchen table issues and will vote accordingly. They will NOT be showing up to watch the Jan 6 Committee Hearings.
dpibel
(2,851 posts)What is your evidence for this evaluation of what people dwell on?
Evidence, man.
Not "here's what I declare."
What's your evidence that "They will NOT be showing up"?
I mean, you're a guy who demands hard evidence all the time.
Give.
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brooklynite
(94,683 posts)Based on their internal polling, voters are fixated on inflation, economics and other kitchen table issues. "Democracy" and January 6 are way down on the list of voter concerns.
nb: one of the earliest lessons I picked up as a Ward Committeeman in Philadelphia was: "never assume that what YOU think is important equates to what the VOTERS think is important".
dpibel
(2,851 posts)Thank you!
kentuck
(111,107 posts)As their primary issues?
Why focus on losing issues?
It seems to me it would be better to put those on the back burner and run on something that is more of a winner, like saving our democracy.
Just my opinion.
brooklynite
(94,683 posts)If you're not prepared to address voters concerns about basic economics, perhaps you shouldn't be running for office.
Diablo del sol
(424 posts)The combined self proclaimed brilliance will be amazing.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)It may be viewed more widely as disturbing as 'the evidence' becomes more apparent with hearings, guilty pleas, convictions, etc.
[However, the issues of inflation and immigration may be very strong in November]