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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Doesn't Anyone Like John Fetterman....except for voters?
https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/john-fetterman/
Back during the fateful 2016 presidential election, when he was starting to get a sinking feeling in his stomach, former Governor Ed Rendell advised the Clinton campaign on a strategy to shore up Hillarys prospects in Pennsylvania. Put her in a car with John Fetterman, he said, and let them drive through the state, talking to voters in every county.
Rendell, long the master of what in politics was once called the common touch, had recognized what the elite political establishment still struggles with when it comes to the 6 foot 8, tattooed, progressive Braddock, Pa mayor turned lieutenant governor: That, in the last 15 years or so, the electorates hunger for authenticity has trumped ideology, and that, as the Democratic Party veered more and more into its elite, bi-coastal brand of politics, its roots as the champion of working families was suddenly in jeopardy.
Alas, we know what happened. Rendells advice went unheeded, (one former Clinton campaign official tells me that, in their BrooklynBrooklyn! campaign headquarters, there was precisely one staffer with midwest roots, cleverly nicknamed by all his Harvard and Yale colleagues working class), and Clinton lost Pennsylvania amid an exodus of Rust Belt middle-class voters. And now we know that wasnt a one-off; the drift of folks of all colors into the Republican fold who shower after work has steadily continued.
Thats why the Fetterman story this campaign cycle is so fascinating. The Democratic establishment has once again lined up against him locally, Mayor Kenney, labor leader Ryan Boyer, and Democratic City Committee Chair Bob Brady are all effectively behind the straight-from-central-casting centrist candidate Conor Lamb, even while Fetterman maintains a gargantuan lead in the polls with some three weeks till election day. Whats going on here?
Calculating political risks......
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long, in-depth article, worth your time, IMHO, if this race is of interest to you.
Ali Velshi sits on the board of this media org, btw.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,992 posts)he's in your face, and he SPEAKS TRUTH. I can't wait to see him go toe to toe with Rafaelito, Randy Paul, and a few other idiots.
PCIntern
(25,572 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)from certain.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Is so inauthentic, the Turkish not Pennsylvanian quack medicine hawking candidate. He reminds me of something out of a Stephen King novel like The Stand. So creepy. Fetterman reminds me of when you're visiting your relatives and they tell you a new family moved in a few doors down. "Be nice to them, he's a little rough around the edges, but good people."
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)- Groucho Marx
repubs have mastered the art of faking sincerity, as seen oh so tragically in the trump cult. The most insincere, faked-up, caricature of a "working class" guy who "speaks for the people" in fucking history was "elected" president.
Not saying that Fetterman is fake, he does have that feel of a real, this is who he is type of guy. We need more like him in the Dem party.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)I have yet to see any evidence of this. I just think their voters are morons.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)when hedge funders and private equity predators get easily recast as blue-collar men-of-the-people in order to run for office, it means your voters are morons.
JohnSJ
(92,333 posts)cant take anything for granted
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)is an imposing figure with good ideas.
I think he would be a good contrast to MT Greene, Hawley, Boebert, Gaetz, Cawthorne, etc.
Wicked Blue
(5,848 posts)and he was outside, working on a car I believe.
He immediately came over to us and couldn't have been more helpful. Gave us excellent directions for getting back to Pittsburgh, where we were visiting a relative. Somehow I got a vibe that he was headed for great things in the future.
My husband said we had just met John Fetterman and told me what he knew about the man, how he cared for his community.
renate
(13,776 posts)And I love his wife, who does good things for the disadvantaged. And his dogs, who are dogs. He and Giselle seem like excellent parents, too. Just good people through and through.
OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)DFW
(54,430 posts)I wish he would ditch the look of one of the sterner executioners for the Spanish Inquisition. I get the "rugged individualist" role, but it will only carry him so far in a state as diverse as Pennsylvania. Running quotes of support from Elizabeth Warren won't help him much either. They will ring true with people who are already on his side, but will put off the ones in the middle who are just starting to take a look. He's new, he's fresh, he has own style. Fine, WE know that, but the whole state will be voting, so he has to appeal to a very diverse electorate--not just people who think like we do.
niyad
(113,513 posts)nebby70
(471 posts)... he is the real deal ...
... Lamb is charming and all, but John has the history of DOING ...
... he'll do fine and we've gotta get over judging a book by it's cover ...
onetexan
(13,056 posts)Conor Lamb needs to get a few more years under his belt to prove himself. I think his head is getting a little too big.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,992 posts)but I contributed to Fetterman. I think Lamb is just...colorless and boring in the extreme. He may be a good Democrat but geez.
PittBlue
(4,227 posts)I was never impressed with him. We also met Fetterman when he was running for Lt. Governor. He is a brilliant man and is just what we Democrats need! We moved from PA last year and unfortunately I cannot vote for him.
BComplex
(8,059 posts)If a democrat is popular locally, with people who ACTUALLY KNOW THEM, and they're ahead in the polls, VOTE FOR THEM.
WTF???
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)I'm not convinced that he can win a Statewide race in a Purple State on his own. He appeals to the Democratic base, but he's not the type of Senator Pennsylvanians have elected for the past 30-40 years. And based on my personal meeting with him, I can't see the message he'll offer to the Independents and moderate Republicans he'll need to win.
lees1975
(3,874 posts)The same claim was made about Governor Wolf when they ran on the same ticket, "he appeals to the Democratic base." In elections for statewide office in Pennsylvania in recent years, that "Democratic base" which re-elected Bob Casey four years ago, runs around 58% of the vote in off year elections. Fetterman and Wolf got 58%.
I think this seat is going to flip, and I think Fetterman will pull down 55% of the vote or better.
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)...and in my analysis, Wolf carried both of them over the line. Very few voters pay attention to whom the LtG candidate is in the General Election.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)brooklynite
(94,682 posts)Fetterman won the LtG Primary with only about 35% of the vote. That doesn't suggest a large November turnout on his behalf in November. As for comparing 2018 with 2014, there are many other factors that could come into play: (incumbency vs non-Incumbency, Republican opponent, etc.).
I learned politics in Pennsylvania, and I've studied the kinds of candidates they tend to elect Statewide FOR THE SENATE. Fetterman doesn't fit the model I see as successful, and he didn't address those concerns when we met.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)Um no....
But simply looking up the actual results is not do-able?
Your mind had already been made up when you supposedly "met" Fetterman.
And based on your "analysis", why did Arlen Specter (formerly a Democrat many decades ago when he tried to run as a Democrat for the District Attorney here in Philly, and when he didn't get the "machine endorsement", switched parties, ran as a Republican, and then won the position)?
And then fast forward with Specter as a GOP Senator (after his 1980 election and 5 terms) - why did he lose after a party switch back to being a Democrat, who went on to lose to teabagger Toomey for a Senate seat that he had held for 30 years?
And why the hell did Katie McGinty get LESS votes than Hillary Clinton in 2016 when McGinty ran against Toomey for that same Senate seat?
https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/General/OfficeResults?OfficeID=2&ElectionID=54&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0
https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/General/OfficeResults?OfficeID=1&ElectionID=54&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)As for "making up my mind", I don't think you understand my process, which I've refined over the past decade. I don't look for candidates to "like"; I look for candidates who I think can win in a competitive environment, regardless of whether they're more liberal or more conservative than I am. Unless I have a personal relationship with them, I don't like (or dislike) any of them. I met with all three candidates for an hour each. Two of them (Lamb and Kenyatta) were able to explain their political philosophy, their big issues and what they wanted to do once elected. Fetterman didn't. The meeting wasn't adversarial; if I had made my mind up ahead of time, I'd have had no reason to meet with him or for him to meet with me.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)Last edited Mon May 2, 2022, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)
Because you apparently neglected to look at the rest of the field and results for that primary, and do some extrapolation.
BRAD BUMSTED and SAM JANESCH | The Caucus May 6, 2017
HARRISBURG The mood of Pennsylvania voters, incensed about the self-serving actions of their politicians, could propel the scandal surrounding Lt. Gov. Mike Stack and his wife, Tonya, beyond the normal shelf life of a few weeks or months into an issue in the 2018 election that could hurt Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf, political analysts say.
Its clear Wolf wants Stack off the ticket. And he never chose him in the first place, given lieutenant governor and gubernatorial candidates run separately in the primaries. Stack and his wife allegedly heaped verbal abuse on members of their state police security detail and their mansion staff, prompting complaints to the Wolf administration, The Caucus first reported last month. Inspector General Bruce Beemer is said to be near completion of a report that will be delivered to the governor.
Wolf hasnt said whether he will release the report to the public, but the allegations have already been widely reported across the state, as have Stacks apologies and denials of any abuse. Stacks wife was allegedly the worst offender, sources say. But a source sympathetic to Stack says the lieutenant governor cant throw her under the bus. As the elected official, Stack is still responsible. The inspector generals report will likely determine whether Wolf will need to take decisive action to endorse and fund an alternative candidate for lieutenant governor.
The Stacks conduct, if proven, is appalling, said Moe Coleman, director emeritus of the Institute of Politics at the University of Pittsburgh. Wolf should move with party elders to leverage Stack out of the 2018 primary and then recommend a running mate whose campaign the multimillionaire Wolf could help finance, Coleman said. Stack has insisted he is running for re-election.
https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/analysis-scandal-surrounding-lt-gov-stack-could-hurt-wolf-in-2018-election/article_e08f5f28-3274-11e7-bcc5-3fad7a098ca3.html
Published: May. 16, 2018, 4:13 a.m.
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When Stack won the Democratic primary in 2014, Stack collected more than 351,000 votes for nearly 47 percent of the vote. Political newcomer Nina Ahmad, of Philadelphia, joined the race late this year but with a war chest of about $800,000, which helped to propel her to a second-place finish in the Democratic primary with more than 23 percent of the votes.
Chester County Commissioner Kathi Cozzone surprised some people with a strong showing in third place, with more than 18 percent of the vote. She was the first name that appeared on the ballot, which carries an advantage, but had only raised about $62,000. Stack, meanwhile, had to settle for less than 17 percent of the votes, even though he had amassed nearly $1 million for the primary race. The only candidate he beat was Montgomery County businessman Roy Sosa, who finished with just more than three percent of the vote.
Stack's campaign spokesman, Marks, said it takes $3 million to run a competitive statewide race, especially when geography is working against a candidate. The loss was the first time a sitting lieutenant governor had lost in a primary, according to the Associated Press.
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https://www.pennlive.com/politics/2018/05/pa_lt_gov_mike_stack_john_fett.html
If Stack had not run, one could take that 17% of the vote that he did get, and add it to the 37% for what? Right. 54%.
And I say this as someone who voted for the runner up - Nina Ahmad - for that primary. But I sure as hell warmed to Fetterman after seeing this ad - and I have posted it many times on DU but it cuts to the chase of his "personality" -
And interestingly enough, just as Tom Wolf is an alumnus of the Peace Corps, John Fetterman (as "the next generation" ) is an alumnus of AmeriCorps. That netted Fetterman a nod on President Obama's "Champions of Change" list -
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/champions/americorps-alums/john-fetterman -
Fetterman reminds me a lot of Cory Booker - both men were mayors of a city (where obviously Newark, NJ is many times larger than Braddock, PA), but both men also "had their hearts in the right place" and made the effort to literally get out into the streets to WALK THE WALK AND ACT.
E.g., when Booker was out there digging people out of the snow -
Democrats have ceded the term "populist" to the GOP for some idiotic reason. I see Fetterman as a literal "liberal populist". The "populist" doesn't necessarily hue to a strict talking point party line but manages to tap into certain perspectives of the philosophy of the party that can be highlighted and added to the party's repertoire to broaden the message.
The fact that D.A. Larry Krasner won a 2nd term in office here in Philly without the "party machine" vote, should give some hints regarding how some things are bubbling under the surface and manifesting here.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)Wolf and the tie was the one I was thinking of.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)I actually stumbled on an article yesterday (I think from back during that 2018 election) that noted the contrast of what was the millionaire buttoned-up shirt, suit and tie-wearing Wolf vs the double pocket casual shirt and jeans-wearing Fetterman, as sortof like an "odd couple".
But in my mind, both are true "old school 'liberals'" - one who chose to go into business and the other into public service. Both were involved in service activities that were designed to help people (Peace Corps and AmeriCorps). And they are 2 sides of the same coin.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)he can work to persuade Rs and Indys that he'd be an excellent choice. And of course his righteous crusade to legalize weed. Does Conor Lamb support legal weed?
https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/watch-john-fetterman-jeff-bartos/
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)That said, I'm not convinced marijuana is the "killer issue" people here seem to grant it. Among all the States that have legalized it, there has never been a pro-marijuana candidate who blew up a political campaign and unexpectedly won an election on that basis.
Jim__
(14,082 posts)A significant part of the electorate has turned toward Trump and Q-anon. That is not a turn toward authenticity.
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)uponit7771
(90,348 posts)... of legal scrutiny others face therefore he feels free to do what he wants.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)According to the study, published Wednesday by the American Sociological Review, voters can find candidates "authentically appealing" even when a candidate lies.
The study showed that even when voters believe a candidate is untruthful, they can still view that candidate as an authentic champion of constituency.
Researchers from the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon and the MIT Sloan School surveyed 400 people. They conducted two online experiments on a simulated college election.
The study concluded that Trump supporters were more enthusiastic in their support of him as a candidate to the extent that they justified Trumps lie as a form of "symbolic protest." The more they viewed him as an act of protest, the more they believed him to be authentic.
We develop and test a theory to address a puzzling pattern that has been discussed widely
since the 2016 U.S. presidential election and reproduced here in a post-election survey:
how can a constituency of voters find a candidate authentically appealing (i.e., view him
positively as authentic) even though he is a lying demagogue (someone who deliberately
tells lies and appeals to non-normative private prejudices)?
Key to the theory are two points:
(1) common-knowledge lies may be understood as flagrant violations of the norm of truthtelling; and (2) when a political system is suffering from a crisis of legitimacy (Lipset
1959) with respect to at least one political constituency, members of that constituency will
be motivated to see a flagrant violator of established norms as an authentic champion of its interests.
Two online vignette experiments on a simulated college election support our theory.
These results demonstrate that mere partisanship is insufficient to explain sharp differences
in how lying demagoguery is perceived, and that several oft-discussed factorsinformation
access, culture, language, and genderare not necessary for explaining such differences.
Rather, for the lying demagogue to have authentic appeal, it is sufficient that one side of a
social divide regards the political system as flawed or illegitimate
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,481 posts)IMO, there are few factors that aren't mentioned much or are sometimes considered less important. These are factors in the 2016 and 2020 elections that played a role, again, just my opinion.
Just a few thoughts up front about people. People interact by "connecting". I don't really believe that trump eats McFood on any regular basis but saying that gives folks a "connection" to just like remembering. I'm sure that the lying filth has 3 people following him everywhere ready to make him some fresh lobster salad or whatever he wants. Also, decision fatigue and information overload play huge roles when campaign issues get complicated.
Many trump voters were either a few cans short of a 6 pack or just lacking the plastic thing to hold it all together. These folks are primed for actions of the "shoot from the hip" nature.
We're talking about someone who's aggressively denigrating and prone to harsh and insulting statements... emotional outbursts. Folks that have a poor ratio of thinking with glands v brains would be prone to liking trump.
Nothing unites people like a common enemy. For some people just that much may be enough to swing them.
Aside from that, your username reminds me of a favorite Warren Zevon song.
The deal was made in Denmark on a dark and stormy day
So he set out for Biafra to join the bloody fray
Celerity
(43,475 posts)Maybe its time to consider that, as inequality and opportunity gaps have soared these last 15 years, these central casting candidates are precisely what the electorate has been rejecting all this while. Think of it; what was the election of Barack Obama and especially the repudiation of Mitt Romney really about, other than a refutation of the typical pol? What was Trump, for that matter?
This election might not really be about the issues
If party elders are making decisions on Fetterman based on his stance on issues hes too far left they just might be missing the point. As Rendell intuited six years ago, hes something different, and maybe representative of a way back for Democrats into the good graces of working-class voters. A dude who, as mayor, had the names of constituents who had been murdered actually inked into his skin just might be the kind of contrast against plutocrats like Oz or McCormick that plays well in a general election.
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And the stakes? Fettermans ads attest to a working-class dystopia out there, an overly-foreboding tone perhaps to those of us in the elite bubble, but one that is perhaps right on for those increasingly left behind in the age of stagnant wages, rising inequality, and oncoming automation.
Kali
(55,019 posts)wow
FakeNoose
(32,706 posts)He's actually very likable, not the least bit scary, and he's a true liberal/progressive. He doesn't project a slick movie star image of a liberal politician, so they don't really know how to relate to him. But it's not fair to judge John Fetterman on looks alone. His track record as mayor of Braddock and as Lt. Governor speaks for itself.
I believe independent, non-party-affiliated Pennsylvanians will give him a chance, as long as they're willing to listen to his ideas. He really is one of us and he cares about our state. He's been working for us for a long time.
Dr. Oz is a joke and a TV huckster. I'd be shocked if voters chose him over John Fetterman.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)I think thats right. And Conor Lamb could well be the next Katie McGinty.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)The resulting vote tally of that race was significant in that it really established the vote-splitting that was going on with the top-of-the-state-ticket races, and that was before they passed Act-77 that got rid of straight-party voting.
I.e., Hillary Clinton got more votes during that election than Katie McGinty.
mathematic
(1,439 posts)Fetterman:
6 foot 8
tattooed
pictures of bald, overweight, goateed Fetterman throughout the piece
Lamb:
straight-from-central-casting
ken doll-like hairdo
Blow-dried candidates right out of central casting
Wonder Bread candidate
It says something when halfway down the article I started to wonder if the author was bald. Edited, after I found a pic of the author: he's completely bald. Remarkable!
This article is strangely dancing around it's main point: the (white) people of PA will support Fetterman over Lamb because he looks like them. I don't disagree with that, actually. I just think it's dumb to make this about who's politics, Fetterman's or Lamb's is more popular in PA (it's Lambs).
dsp3000
(487 posts)I've said this in every fetterman post in this forum. Trump got elected on his personality. this electorate will do the same for fetterman and I feel he'll be able to pick off alot of blue collar trump voters that give a passing glance on politics.
Sneederbunk
(14,297 posts)multigraincracker
(32,713 posts)a Masters from Harvard. He has it covered.
peggysue2
(10,836 posts)I did not know about the Rendell suggestion of teaming up Clinton and Fetterman in PA. Or maybe the name simply didn't click. But it's certainly an indication that even then PA powerbrokers had their eye on Fetterman as the working class whisperer.
Yes, Fetterman does not fit the mold of your average politician. He doesn't look the part, doesn't sound like anyone else in the pack. But . . . I think we all can agree that voters are hungry for someone different, 'authentic,' the real deal, a candidate that lights a fire under the electorate. I worry about the man's debate skills. Still do, not for the primary but the GE.
However, out on the campaign trail, out at the meet and greets with voters, John Fetterman is a star, someone who can excite, inspire and give people hope that not only can we win this thing but send someone to the US Senate who will actually serve the American people.
That's a gift.
So yes, he's odd, different, a counterpoint to the poise and professional appearance of a Conor Lamb who on paper is the perfect candidate, a candidate we've seen time and time again. And maybe that's the point.
John Fetterman's difference is winning the hearts and minds of the electorate. He's an unapologetic liberal who is willing to stand firmly on Democratic values. No weasel words or tap-dancing. He's progressive on many issues but doesn't hesitate bucking the progressive wing when his positions diverge.
Maybe John Fetterman is the sort of candidate we would have more likely run across pre-television when appearance and presentation were less important than what a man stood for in words, policy positions and heart.
Whatever the case, the voters and the people who know him love this man.
Let's get it done!
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)a great video interview here:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/john-fetterman-pennsylvania-democrat-1089672/
Butterflylady
(3,546 posts)The head of state democratic party learns a lesson from this. The people want someone who isn't afraid to be different. Fetterman has gone to all the counties of PA. Even the reddest of red. Now that's a man who shows courage and love for the whole state.
Cosmocat
(14,567 posts)nm
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)Some people here don't believe it, but Party officials generally LIKE to win elections. Get him over the finish line, and the State Party Chair (whom I know) will pay attention.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)So they won't pay attention until he wins the election? Geez, maybe paying attention during the election would be helpful.
brooklynite
(94,682 posts)Im saying their inclination will be to nominate more Mai stream candidates until someone different actually shows they can win.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)The supposed main stream candidate gets support from the party elites. Then that milquetoast candidate runs a campaign based on 1970's tactics and the party is stunned that they lost. Again.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Exactly!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)for the incident where he chased down & pulled a shotgun on a black guy he mistakenly thought had fired a gun, and some progressive don't like him because of that as well.
He seems pretty accessible and self-deprecating on Twitter (he seems genuinely to feel lucky to have met his wife - calling himself "Shrek" because he's just a big ogre)
NBachers
(17,133 posts)world wide wally
(21,751 posts)But for real.
Martin Eden
(12,874 posts)Because Republican policies favor the wealthy elite at the expense of blue collar workers.
Happy Hoosier
(7,367 posts)Is he perfect? Nope. Who is? But he's a real dude and I think he can take a seat for us.
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)about his stance on issues or anything hes campaigning on. Im afraid all the consultants and talking heads will infer that white bread candidates just need to get some tats and put on a Slayer Tshirt to connect with voters.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)While a staunch Democratic supporter, I have had many disagreements with the party and their actions. This goes all the way down to the local levels. Last election i noticed there was no Democratic candidate running for a seat on the local parks committee. I put myself up as a write in candidate in the primary election. Didn't really want to be on the committee but felt we should have a candidate in every race. This action took place late in election season so I was to late to actually register for position. Where with enough signatures or a fee I would be on ballot. So write in was my only possibility. After the election i called the county clerk to see how i had done. He told me the good news and the bad news. Good I had won the election, Bad the state party said I needed at least 5 percent of the vote won by the biggest Democratic candidate. the candidate was our state senator and I did not get 5 percent of the votes she got.
Resulting in no Democratic name on the ballot for parks committee. Why can't the powers that be in our party let the people decide what's best?
budkin
(6,713 posts)To help appeal to more rural voters.
d_b
(7,463 posts)I fell for this dude back in 2020 when he was trolling Republicans over the Big Lie.
Wish I could vote for him.
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)Link to tweet
@JohnFetterman
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Dec 21, 2020
🚨 VOTER FRAUD IN PA FOUND🚨
🚨DEAD PEOPLE VOTE IN PA 🚨
... for President Trump. 😆
Jeremy Roebuck
@jeremyrroebuck
Is this our first documented case of an actual ballot cast in the name of a verified dead person in the Philly region during the 2020 election? Note: The man was caught and charged by authorities. He also cast the fraudulent ballot for Trump.
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John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
My dude in Texas owes me $3M now. X 3️⃣. 👇
4:07 PM · Dec 21, 2020
Link to tweet
@JohnFetterman
·
Dec 21, 2020
Replying to @JohnFetterman
My dude in Texas owes me $3M now. X 3️⃣. 👇
John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
me thinking about that handsome reward rn
4:10 PM · Dec 21, 2020
Link to tweet
@JohnFetterman
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Dec 21, 2020
Replying to @JohnFetterman
me thinking about that handsome reward rn
John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
Best Case of Voter Fraud in PA:
Dude in Forty Fort
41%
Returns in sunglasses
41.2%
Its Bartman!!
17.8%
7,023 votes·Final results
4:15 PM · Dec 21, 2020
Link to tweet
@JohnFetterman
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Jul 5, 2021
Shouting out the most famous case of voter fraud from 2020: My dude from Forty Fort -in Forty Fort PA-while wearing a My Dude in Forty Fort T-shirt is *truly* next level. 🤩
#💀👵🏻 🗳
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John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
ICYMI: My dude in Forty Fort represented 20% of the TOTAL VOTER FRAUD in Pennsylvania during the 2020 election out of 7M ballots cast.
PAGOP: We must change PAs constitution for 2024 to mandatory voter ID because 5 dead moms all voted for Trump.
Election 2020 Pennsylvania Mail-In Voting
citizensvoice.com
Forty Fort man applied for a ballot for his deceased mother, detectives allege
A Forty Fort man forged the name and signature of his deceased mother on an application for an absentee ballot, prosecutors allege.
9:16 AM · Jul 5, 2021 from Pennsylvania, USA
When we were endlessly pummeled by the loons with lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, both Fetterman and Shapiro set the ship right, with the much appreciated help of Marc Elias and his team.
d_b
(7,463 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,817 posts)A Democrat like him could trounce DeSatan in the governor's race IMO.
betsuni
(25,596 posts)working families/Hillary corrupt beholden/elite bubble.
Author forgot to insult Democrats as "neoliberal." The way some people go on you'd think all Democrats are extremely rich upper class elite establishment FDR types who enjoy martinis and smoked oysters every cocktail hour, and cigars of course. But somehow, unlike extremely rich upper class elite establishment FDR, Democrats know nothing or care nothing about the working/middle classes. What is the point of this lie?
And Hillary (middle class background) campaigned extensively in Pennsylvania. That election wasn't about economics or policy. White working class votes against their own economic interests and they like it.