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The Dow dropped 1000 a few days ago, (Original Post) House of Roberts May 2022 OP
You miss that the Dow has the attention span of a 2 year old Golden Retriever. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #1
LOL, I'm stealing that and I probably won't credit you for it Brother Buzz May 2022 #6
Possibly more accurately the "experts" who analyze the Dow's ups and downs. former9thward May 2022 #11
It's the Rethugs playing with the market. clementine613 May 2022 #2
That's an oversimplification FBaggins May 2022 #3
The DOW has been untethered the actual economy for decades now SoonerPride May 2022 #4
There's always millions of buyers BruceWane May 2022 #14
No they don't brooklynite May 2022 #15
The market has a 1% problem just like the country SoonerPride May 2022 #18
The Market these days is simply a sophisticated gambling casino. The talking heads will gladly walkingman May 2022 #17
The rate hike was old news by today bucolic_frolic May 2022 #5
I've had it explained to me like this. Turbineguy May 2022 #7
Baked in expectations - reality is better than fears. SYFROYH May 2022 #8
They priced in the hike when they heard about it days ago Johnny2X2X May 2022 #9
I thought it was Tickle May 2022 #10
The rate hike wasn't as high as they were predicting. Beautiful Disaster May 2022 #12
This is how the stock market works. Sell on the blues, buy on the news. (or vice-versa, I forgot) nt usonian May 2022 #13
Some would say Disaffected May 2022 #20
Yes, it's usually buy on the blues and sell on the news. usonian May 2022 #22
It's more of a volatility story than one of constant downward pressure nt Shermann May 2022 #16
The stock market is driven by many Disaffected May 2022 #19
Sell on the rumor, buy on the news relayerbob May 2022 #21
This, from another DU post, is v likely the main factor: Disaffected May 2022 #23
The carousel continues: Dow plunges 1,000 points, wiping out Wednesday's surge muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #24
The smoke coming out of their asses is going every Emile May 2022 #25

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
11. Possibly more accurately the "experts" who analyze the Dow's ups and downs.
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:55 PM
May 2022

If the Dow is at let's say 34000 goes up 20 or down 20 I read reasons why it happened. That is crazy. It can't be determined what was in the minds of those making billions of buys and sells of stock.

clementine613

(561 posts)
2. It's the Rethugs playing with the market.
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:41 PM
May 2022

The other day, they shorted it, so they made it go down. Today they need it to go up.

As long as it makes them money, they don't care if anyone else loses their investments.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
3. That's an oversimplification
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:45 PM
May 2022

The possible scenarios are not limited to a rate hike or a lack of a rate hike. The fear a few weeks ago was for more and larger rate hikes than had previously been anticipated - potentially going too far too fast.

Todays hike was was more in line with what had preciously been expected.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. The DOW has been untethered the actual economy for decades now
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:45 PM
May 2022

Unemployment up?

The market goes up.

Unemployment down?

The market goes up.

Corporate earnings set records?

The market goes up.

Corporate earnings fall?

The market goes up.

Sure maybe not for a day or two for "profit taking" but they have figured out a system that perpetually rises regardless of what is happening to the rest of us.


BruceWane

(345 posts)
14. There's always millions of buyers
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:02 PM
May 2022

One word - 401k

Every single day there's millions of dollars poured into the stock market due to the advent of the 401k. Millions of people who are essentially placing "buy" orders every time they receive a paycheck, regardless of what the actual market outlook looks like. This is why so many stock prices have nothing to do with actual company performance. Companies can lose money for years and years with no realistic projection of profitability while their stock price rises and rises.

brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
15. No they don't
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:05 PM
May 2022

The market has been dropping most of this year, whether the issue is COVID/UKRAINE/INFLATION/INTEREST RATES etc.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
18. The market has a 1% problem just like the country
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:20 PM
May 2022
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/the-stock-market-is-completely-untethered-from-economic-reality/


Here are a few market extremes Stockman notes.

Amazon is now 43% of the S&P 500 consumer discretionary index;
Nearly two-thirds of the market is underperforming so far this year;
Year-to-date, only one in three stocks is actually in the green;
One in five stocks is down 50% or more from its all-time high;
The five largest stocks in the S&P 500 have a combined market cap that equals that of the “smallest” 389 stocks;
Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Google—four companies—have a combined market cap (over $6 trillion) that is greater than the GDP of every country in the world, minus the US and China;
Tesla, having surpassed Walmart (with one-twentieth of the revenue!), has become the ninth-largest stock in the US.


A very few major stocks really drive the market as a whole.

If those top sliver of companies are doing well the market is up.

Concentration of capital in the hands of very persons or corporations skews everything.

walkingman

(7,668 posts)
17. The Market these days is simply a sophisticated gambling casino. The talking heads will gladly
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:13 PM
May 2022

give an explanation of any moves up or down.

Turbineguy

(37,370 posts)
7. I've had it explained to me like this.
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:47 PM
May 2022

In normal life you are driving your car. Ahead of you, the door on a parked car opens. You swerve to avoid hitting the open door.

In stock trading you hit the door and take it off along with the arm of the person who opened it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,118 posts)
9. They priced in the hike when they heard about it days ago
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

This is just a rebound to normal from that artificial mini crash.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
12. The rate hike wasn't as high as they were predicting.
Wed May 4, 2022, 03:56 PM
May 2022

I believe they were expecting Powell to hike rates by 0.75% but he's ruled that out for now.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the latest on inflation suggests it's slipping down a bit.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
20. Some would say
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:23 PM
May 2022

sell on news. There are as many clichés and platitudes regarding the stock markets as there are investors.

usonian

(9,898 posts)
22. Yes, it's usually buy on the blues and sell on the news.
Wed May 4, 2022, 08:28 PM
May 2022

But this is different from the usual quarterly results speculation. Had to reverse direction.
Then again, I forgot the question.
Getting old, but that beats the alternative.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
19. The stock market is driven by many
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:21 PM
May 2022

often unpredictable factors. In many ways it displays chaotic, random behaviour. This however does not discourage many folks from opining on why the market does what it does on any given day, week, or year.

The only reasonably predictable thing about the major indices is that they tend upwards in the long run. That is why "market timing" is a poor investment strategy - you may get lucky for a while but in the long run, you will very likely not come out ahead, or ahead at all, versus a buy & hold approach (and buy & hold a variety of well established, dividend paying companies). And, don't pay much attention to the "pundits" of whom there are many thousands, some professional, some amateur, and are as often wrong as right.

relayerbob

(6,555 posts)
21. Sell on the rumor, buy on the news
Wed May 4, 2022, 04:28 PM
May 2022

The rate hike was already baked in, so just SOP. Wall st will prefer higher interest to higher inflation.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
23. This, from another DU post, is v likely the main factor:
Wed May 4, 2022, 08:34 PM
May 2022

"In his post-meeting press conference on Wednesday, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said that additional half-percentage-point rate hikes will be on the table for the next few meetings. But the bank isn't looking to go bigger:"

The last sentence is probably it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
24. The carousel continues: Dow plunges 1,000 points, wiping out Wednesday's surge
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:51 AM
May 2022
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/05/investing/dow-stock-market-news-today/index.html

Equivalent WSJ headline says "investors reassess Fed comments". So maybe they just felt like partying yesterday, and got round to doing the reading overnight.

Emile

(22,937 posts)
25. The smoke coming out of their asses is going every
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:16 PM
May 2022

where. Their job is to blame everything on socialist spending and covering up for predatory capitalism.

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