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New Haven

(1,060 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:36 AM May 2022

Republican men more likely to father an unwanted pregnancy

starting with their disregard for women and lack of responsibility tells me that in the future DNA testing will implicate a lot more
Republican men than Democratic men ----you can say that is quite a reach of opinion but look at the Republicans take on Covid -----I think the big push should be for parent responsibility on these births ------an abortion does not show DNA of the father ----but births do------don't think me callous I am just surmising based on watching Republicans behavior

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Republican men more likely to father an unwanted pregnancy (Original Post) New Haven May 2022 OP
Personal responsibility... dlk May 2022 #1
I think we will need to do two things. Delmette2.0 May 2022 #2
Poster Boy for this shit: Scott DesJarlais. A DOCTOR CurtEastPoint May 2022 #3
DesJarlais is scum Jilly_in_VA May 2022 #5
I'm not sure where the assertion that an abortion doesn't provide paternal DNA... Hugin May 2022 #4
I would think Jilly_in_VA May 2022 #6
Yeah, Jilly. I agree. Hugin May 2022 #10
thank you Hugin ---I am sure that it does but I don't think it is SOP New Haven May 2022 #7
It doesn't seem to be SOP. Hugin May 2022 #9
Just wait until a bunch of men are on the hook for 18-22 years of child support! IL Dem May 2022 #8

Delmette2.0

(4,171 posts)
2. I think we will need to do two things.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:47 AM
May 2022

DNA test all males age 12 and older. Then enforce vasectomies. Until it is proven that they are emotionally and financially ready to impregnate a woman. That includes a criminal background check.



CurtEastPoint

(18,664 posts)
3. Poster Boy for this shit: Scott DesJarlais. A DOCTOR
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:51 AM
May 2022


Sex, abortion, and drug scandals
In October 2012 the Huffington Post obtained a transcript of a September 2000 phone conversation in which DesJarlais pressured a mistress to get an abortion.[43][44] He repeatedly denied that he had taped the conversation. In October he wrote to supporters on Facebook, "The media wrongly reported that I recorded the conversation myself. I was recorded unknowingly and without my consent."[45] Nine days before the general election a second woman said that she began dating DesJarlais while she was his patient. She alleged that the two smoked marijuana together and that he prescribed opioids for her while she was at his house.[46][47]

Two weeks after DesJarlais won the 2012 election, the Chattanooga Times Free Press obtained a full transcript of his 2001 divorce proceedings.[48] The transcript revealed that he had admitted under oath to at least six sexual relationships with people he came in contact with while chief of staff at Grandview Medical Center in Jasper, Tennessee. Among them were three co-workers, two patients and a drug representative.[49] The transcript also revealed that his former wife had had two abortions,[49][50][51] and that DesJarlais had admitted under oath that he and his former wife had recorded the phone conversation with the mistress.[45] "One of the biggest mistakes I made was I commented to the press before I had the opportunity to go back and read a transcript that was 13, 14 years old," he said in an interview with the Knoxville News Sentinel. "It was never my intention to mislead anyone, and had I read this, I don't think the inaccuracies that occurred would have taken place."[45]

Three weeks after he won the election, DesJarlais said on a conservative talk radio show on WWTN that "God has forgiven me" and asked "fellow Christians" and constituents "to consider doing the same."[52]

Formal reprimand
In October 2012, the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) requested that the Tennessee Board of Health investigate evidence that DesJarlais had had a sexual relationship with a patient, in violation of the Tennessee Medical Practice Act.[53][54][55] The complaint was investigated and in May 2013 the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners formally reprimanded DesJarlais for having sex with patients and fined him $500, calculated by the Board as "$250 per patient",[56] and $1,000 in costs. He did not contest the charges.[51][57]

In November 2012, after further details of the divorce proceedings were published, CREW asked the House of Representatives' Office of Congressional Ethics to investigate whether DesJarlais had violated House ethics rules, asserting that he had "blatantly" lied when he denied having taped the telephone conversation.[58][59][60]

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Jilly_in_VA

(9,999 posts)
5. DesJarlais is scum
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:00 AM
May 2022

and I don't know how he keeps getting elected. Surely there's another (R) in the district who can run against him.

Hugin

(33,208 posts)
4. I'm not sure where the assertion that an abortion doesn't provide paternal DNA...
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:56 AM
May 2022

comes from.

It is there. It has to be. Without it fertilization wouldn't have occurred.

New Haven

(1,060 posts)
7. thank you Hugin ---I am sure that it does but I don't think it is SOP
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:01 AM
May 2022

but still an abortion does not create a walking talking evidence like a live birth does -along with a Mom and family --I want to be careful with my comments so that I don't offend here --that will defend her and call for responsibility on the father----thank you again for responding ---

Hugin

(33,208 posts)
9. It doesn't seem to be SOP.
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:31 AM
May 2022

I agree with Jilly's reply above that it may be difficult to find with very early or non-medically monitored abortions. It also may be difficult to separate the mother's DNA before the zygote has formed it's separation from the mother's tissue. (Okay. Okay. I'm not a doctor! I don't know what that stage is called.)

However, with PCR, I'm sure paternal DNA can be found and amplified during the vast majority of the pregnancy. If anyone were to ask that it be done AND THE MOTHER AGREE TO THE SAMPLING! (I thought I'd add the consent of the mother. That is, after all, what this is all about.)

IL Dem

(815 posts)
8. Just wait until a bunch of men are on the hook for 18-22 years of child support!
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:15 AM
May 2022

Pre-Roe, blood typing was the only way to try to assign paternal parent. It was unreliable.

Now we have DNA testing which will be pretty much iron-clad.

Men will not like that! They will not be able to cast aspersions on the pregnant woman, saying she slept with other men who might have the same blood type like they did way back then.

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