Email from Michael Moore -- The Forced Birth Ruling
One hundred seventy million American women and girls were suddenly informed on Monday that they have been removed from the ranks of full citizenship, and that their rights are now diminished so severely they will heretofore be commanded to give birth, whether they want to or not.
Once pregnant, the government will now make all women prisoners of their wombs, automatically forced for the full nine months to carry the fetus inside them to term, whether they intended to be pregnant or not, a 21st century version of house arrest.
And when it’s time to give birth, the woman who didn’t want to be pregnant in the first place is either virtually or physically held down until that fetus is forcibly removed from the incarcerated vessel that was ordered to carry it.
This Order by the Supreme Rulers gleefully violates the very first pronouncement of our Constitution’s First Amendment which clearly states, without equivocation, that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” The Ruling this week forces all Americans to now follow the strict religious beliefs of the Catholic Church and much of Christianity which has concocted a fantasy that a fertilized egg is a human being — even though their own founder and God, Jesus Christ, never said any such thing. In fact, the word “abortion” appears absolutely nowhere in the New Testament. This Supreme Ruling, from a Court consisting of a majority of Catholic Justices, has ordered the citizens of the United States of America to now obey a major tenet of the Catholic Church — or be found guilty of a crime.
This Supreme Ruling removes the right of all women to be equal citizens to men — men who will retain full 100% control over their own reproductive organs. Both men and women have five main bodily systems. Women will now be allowed to maintain control of only four of their top five bodily systems: their circulatory system, respiratory system, digestive system and their muscular/skeletal system. But not their reproductive system. That power now belongs to the government. Which makes women 4/5 of a citizen. The State of course exercises no legal control over whatever it is men want to do with their bodies, and no man is forced to reproduce or deal with any of its consequences as women are.
Our Supreme Robed Rulers have relegated women and girls to permanent second-class citizenship. The pretending that women are legally “equal” can now thankfully stop. The truth is they were always 2nd class citizens, thanks to unequal pay, no paid maternity leave, domestic abuse, etc. The fake mask of our American system of “equality” has been ripped off, no more pretending now, because the real slippery slope has begun. This Forced Birth decision is only the beginning. If these fascists are not removed from office, as President Biden has warned us this week, they will be emboldened and they will be on a rampage to undo other freedoms that are an affront to the State Religion they have now shoved down our throats in the Dobbs Case.
Next up: ending same sex marriage. After that: the removal of the Plan B pill, aka “the morning after pill.” They have already eliminated the Violence Against Women Act and they will make that permanent. They have invaded school board meetings with threats of violence if the schools continue to teach that white Americans kidnapped, raped, lynched and enslaved Black Africans to build this country. They will continue to gerrymander, suppress the vote, and keep Black Americans on the lowest rung of the economic ladder. Your child will be forced to start the school day, every day, by standing and praying aloud to this Christian God Jesus Christ who never once condemned homosexuality, never once forced anyone to pray. They have made up this fake god to suit their totalitarian political agenda, to force women into the maternity ward, to send Black Americans to the back of the new bus where they are imprisoned by the millions along with other people of color.
Welcome to the New America. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, only the new boss no longer has to fake-sing his praises for “Democracy!” and “Freedom!” and “Equality!”
The New America is about to become a much scarier place. The Supreme Wealthy are going to take everything from you and they believe they’re going to get away with it. Only November stands in their way. Only November has a chance of stopping them. And that’s on you and me.
MASSIVE ORGANIZING!
EXPLOSIVE NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE!
EVERYONE BRINGS FIVE VOTERS WITH THEM TO THE POLLS!
EACH OF US PUTS A SIGN IN THE WINDOW OR THE YARD THAT SAYS “VOTE THE FASCISTS OUT!”
Then we might have a chance.
And I believe we do. Because there’s more of us than there are of them.
(Note: The ABC News poll this week showed 70% of Americans believe “abortion is a private decision between a woman and her doctor.” Only 27% of the country supports what the Trump Court is about to rule! C’mon people — let’s beat these traitorous bastards once and for all.)
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Having to live through 2016 once was excruciating. I have less than zero desire to relieve it. 
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This is a dark time. Thank you for your light. 
your Light, too.. and Thank You! 
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You really believe we don't have the right to be pissed off at public figures that we feel came around a little too late after the damage they helped cause was already done?
What you call hate, is righteous ANGER. We can be pissed off about the past and try to embrace his efforts now. But you don't get to just call us haters as if we just decided one day to pick on Michael Moore.
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If she doesn't want it, the father automatically gets the baby with no child support ever, she's done her part
against her will, maybe even visitation rights with no strings attached, could also make them pay for the woman's
pain & suffering & lost wages. Time men are made to pay for not practicing birth control.
Women's votes will be calculated at 4/5's of a man's vote.
Seems the direction we're going.
in DC and beyond.
Forced Pregnancy as a Crime Against Humanity and a War Crime
Remember his cringe-inducing speech at the first Woman's March during which he slowly mainsplained (in list format) basic activism as if the marchers were children who needed to be instructed on the obvious?
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Michael Moore enumerated this interesting item on his list:
GOD BLESS THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE FOUGHT WITH US.
IT IS NO KNOCK ON THEM. BUT, YOU ARE COACHING THE WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM TWICE IN TWO YEARS.
WE WON, AND THEN WE LOST. WE WIN AT THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT THEY WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR.
ARE YOU GOING TO LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN IN YOUR LIFETIME? I AM NOT.
I AM SORRY, BUT THE OLD GUARD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS TO GO. IT HAS TO GO. WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP.
(Sorry about the caps, but this excerpt is directly from the C-SPAN transcript.)
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Moore's use of pronouns is especially interesting. He makes a bewildering statement about Democrats having worked with "us" (whoever "us" is). Then he refers to Democrats as "them". He finishes off with "we", but it's unclear who the "we" refers to.
You can watch Mr. Moore's extraordinary performance here:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4650649/michael-moore-addresses-womens-march-washington
Thank goodness, moore realizes right now, reproductive rights are more important than refighting a primary from six years ago
trump & fascism to get in the WH need to stop but they won't.
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I lived through it. Google "Michael Moore Hillary" and look through the pages and pages of results of him shitting on her.
Oh, and here is one piece I actually forgot about -- taken during the infamous summer of 2016:
Democratic ally, my ass.
Might as well fucking post Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein messages of support for Roe v. Wade, for god's sake.
the Roberts Court, and the appointment of Alito. The moronic Moore's gripe against Al Gore was that he was a "corporate environmentalist".
In the aftermath of the 2000 election, the American people got the Iraq War, the Citizens United decision, and the Alito opinion. Al Gore got the Nobel Peace Prize for environmental activism.
What did Moore get? Michael Moore got richer. Moore is very good at monetizing his "activism". And as a multimillionaire with tens of millions in personal wealth and nine homes, he's very good at making sure he hangs on to it: He prevented the writers on his TV show from joining the Writers Guild and is infamous for hiring non-union workers when making the films he writes, produces, and directs.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/michael-moore-snubs-union-workers-making-capitalism-love/story?id=8715559
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On July 24, 2016, Moore published a piece called "Five Reasons Why Trump Will Win". This was well after HRC was the Democratic Party nominee and just a few days before our convention. One of the five reasons was the following:
Let’s face it: Our biggest problem here isn’t Trump – it’s Hillary. She is hugely unpopular — nearly 70% of all voters think she is untrustworthy and dishonest. She represents the old way of politics, not really believing in anything other than what can get you elected. That’s why she fights against gays getting married one moment, and the next she’s officiating a gay marriage. Young women are among her biggest detractors, which has to hurt considering it’s the sacrifices and the battles that Hillary and other women of her generation endured so that this younger generation would never have to be told by the Barbara Bushes of the world that they should just shut up and go bake some cookies. But the kids don’t like her, and not a day goes by that a millennial doesn’t tell me they aren’t voting for her. No Democrat, and certainly no independent, is waking up on November 8th excited to run out and vote for Hillary the way they did the day Obama became president or when Bernie was on the primary ballot. The enthusiasm just isn’t there. And because this election is going to come down to just one thing — who drags the most people out of the house and gets them to the polls — Trump right now is in the catbird seat.
https://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
If Moore was unaware of how many women, true allies, and Democrats were excited to wake up and vote for Hillary Clinton on election day (not simply because of her gender, but also because of her journey, her leadership, and her expertise), he really needs to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down
Michael Moore is not an ally. He's an opportunist. He helped bring us to this moment. He needs to take responsibility and apologize.
1. How many actually read the OP email from Michael Moore?
2. Does the GOP come here to see what rips apart the Democratic party?
The response is directed to your post.
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So what are you talking about?
Shouldn't be that hard to understand what I was saying.
You forgot this post.
Star Member Emile
156. Have you read the OP email from Michael Moore?
Star Member lapucelle
157. Yup. N/T
Star Member Emile
158. What did he say that upsets you?
Star Member lapucelle
159. What are you talking about? N/T
Star Member Emile
160. You forget what the thread is about?
Star Member lapucelle
162. Oh, glad to explain how threads and subthreads work. I was not responding to the OP.
The response is directed to your post.
and a response to the OP thread is.
Furthermore, there is no requirement here that posters respond in a fashion proscribed by other posters.
Michael Moore has done nothing other than to jump on a bandwagon. He needs to take responsibility and apologize for his part in enabling the Bush presidency, the Roberts' Court, and Alito's appointment. The damage he facilitated is incalculable. Why anyone here would amplify his voice here is bewildering.
