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waterwatcher123

(144 posts)
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:38 PM May 2022

Impeach Gorsuch, Coney-Barrett, Alito and Kavanaugh in One House Trial

Society gives the Supreme Court a pass simply because they sit in judgment of everyone from a pedestal wearing black robes. These four candidates to the Supreme Count lied under oath or perjured themselves in front of everyone. The video that recorded their answers to the question of Roe v. Wade is public knowledge.

The Supreme Court has always been a deeply flawed, political institution. "The Nine" by Jeffery Tobin does a very good job of chronicling how Sandra Day O'Connor said out loud that she could not imagine a scenario where Albert Gore could become president. Is is also ironic that then Chief Justice, William H. Rehnquist, was working on a book about the supposedly stolen election of 1876 (Tilden vs. Hayes). The Supreme Court then issued an unsigned opinion that effectively ended the 2000 election and propelled George Bush into the White House (hardly a coincidence).

These four justices deserve to be impeached and to have all the records from the Federalist Society and their collaborators in Congress spilled right out into the open. It would be a catharsis and a chance to right the ship from a court that has veered from a reasonably independent court to an overtly political institution.


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Impeach Gorsuch, Coney-Barrett, Alito and Kavanaugh in One House Trial (Original Post) waterwatcher123 May 2022 OP
thomas too. mopinko May 2022 #1
Agree Highway61 May 2022 #14
FIVE liars. Five liars. Could we keep repeating that? For some of them saying x amount of Hail fierywoman May 2022 #2
Not gonna happen. 2naSalit May 2022 #3
And even if they were, they could still remain on the bench. Demsrule86 May 2022 #5
👍 Joinfortmill May 2022 #23
Actually it's not even a requirement Mr.Bill May 2022 #25
That's true. 2naSalit May 2022 #32
I get so tired of this...we don't have 66 or 67 f'ing votes. Why not ask for a unicorn...just as Demsrule86 May 2022 #4
THIS FalloutShelter May 2022 #19
How about considering what we can do that might actually accomplish something other than Demsrule86 May 2022 #37
How many times did the R's vote to repeal the ACA and it did not happen, and they kept at it. c-rational May 2022 #22
And they ended up losing the house for it. jimfields33 May 2022 #28
That process occurred over several administrations,. We are talking about one vote. I doubt we c-rational May 2022 #29
I agree with that. jimfields33 May 2022 #34
They lost multiple seats...and Pres. Obama got the ACA through so now it wasn't over several Demsrule86 May 2022 #38
Better to lose the Senate then? brooklynite May 2022 #42
First of all, it gives the GOP ammunition for the midterm and it goes nowhere. That is why. Demsrule86 May 2022 #35
Me too! Nt USALiberal May 2022 #33
So tired of it...why do we not hear about the only way this gets fixed...elect more Democrats. Demsrule86 May 2022 #36
Dream on. It wouldn't be any more successful than the impeachments of TFG. Ocelot II May 2022 #6
Going into the 2nd impeachment and knowing it would likely fail, I still believe it was the c-rational May 2022 #24
The House impeaches. The Senate tries. rsdsharp May 2022 #7
Be a shame of Anonymous hacked the Federalist Society Phoenix61 May 2022 #8
Or a good open-records search by Bellingcat, Propublica, etc. erronis May 2022 #16
Yup. Joinfortmill May 2022 #21
That's who they need to hack. Not the Supreme Court.LOL LeftInTX May 2022 #44
Won't happen BUT let's have the debate, out in the open. Deworm the Court bucolic_frolic May 2022 #9
Amy didn't lie Polybius May 2022 #10
Even more. Their position on abortion, no matter how they couch it.... paleotn May 2022 #11
I like your style, WW123. jaxexpat May 2022 #12
Yes, they deserve to be impeached. Will they be impeached? No. Martin68 May 2022 #13
Agree Highway61 May 2022 #15
We don't have the votes...so maybe we get off of our collective butts Demsrule86 May 2022 #39
It wont work nor will it help as we need 60 Senate votes to remove them however cstanleytech May 2022 #17
it indeed won't work.and we need 67 votes not 60.nt. drray23 May 2022 #31
It can't be done now because we don't have 51 votes. Demsrule86 May 2022 #40
One does not give up simply because success is incremental or illusive. waterwatcher123 May 2022 #18
YES! Joinfortmill May 2022 #20
Totally agree. The Right Wing plutocray have completely corrupted all 3 branches of the Federal Gov' Fla Dem May 2022 #26
We impeached Trump twice and the Senate refused to convict him--it's ok h2ebits May 2022 #27
How would you prove perjury? brooklynite May 2022 #43
I believe that we have each of them on tape h2ebits May 2022 #46
No you don't brooklynite May 2022 #47
Thanks for your explanation h2ebits May 2022 #48
Going to impeach... Joenobody May 2022 #30
And when the Senate refuses to convict them? brooklynite May 2022 #41
No...that just revs up the GOP base and helps the GOP with the midterms...could we please Demsrule86 May 2022 #45

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
14. Agree
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

Thomas should have been dealt with as SOON as they found out his wife’s involvement in Jan 6th!

fierywoman

(7,694 posts)
2. FIVE liars. Five liars. Could we keep repeating that? For some of them saying x amount of Hail
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:45 PM
May 2022

Marys supposedly forgives them of the sin of lying?

2naSalit

(86,791 posts)
3. Not gonna happen.
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:45 PM
May 2022

However, they could be indicted for perjury during their confirmation hearings. Kind of hard to rule from the bench if you're behind bars. And also should end up being disbarred for their crimes which also makes it hard to remain on the SCOTUS.

Mr.Bill

(24,325 posts)
25. Actually it's not even a requirement
Sat May 7, 2022, 05:01 PM
May 2022

that you be an attorney to sit on the Supreme Court.

I'm also for impeaching them. They, of course, would not be removed from office by the Senate but let them live with the impeachment stain for the rest of their lives.

2naSalit

(86,791 posts)
32. That's true.
Sat May 7, 2022, 08:14 PM
May 2022

For many, impeachment's natural result should be removal from office. But you're right impeachment itself is warranted though conviction is not going to happen due to the equation in the Senate.

DoJ could handle it though.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
4. I get so tired of this...we don't have 66 or 67 f'ing votes. Why not ask for a unicorn...just as
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:48 PM
May 2022

much chance of getting one. The only way out of this is to win the midterm and that will require unity, dedication, and hard work. It is so much easier to suggest things that are impossible.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
37. How about considering what we can do that might actually accomplish something other than
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

give the GOP another issue to run on.

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
22. How many times did the R's vote to repeal the ACA and it did not happen, and they kept at it.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:45 PM
May 2022

Why not put it up for a vote - it may be one way to get more press.

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
29. That process occurred over several administrations,. We are talking about one vote. I doubt we
Sat May 7, 2022, 06:47 PM
May 2022

would loose the Hose over bringing it up once, and it would provide a good platform to provide many rebuttals of this charade of a ruling. I believe it is a false choice.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
38. They lost multiple seats...and Pres. Obama got the ACA through so now it wasn't over several
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:25 PM
May 2022

administrations...pretty much as soon as it was up and running...the GOP started losing seats.

brooklynite

(94,736 posts)
42. Better to lose the Senate then?
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:33 PM
May 2022

Your "one vote" would then call for weeks of a trial and Senate debate.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
36. So tired of it...why do we not hear about the only way this gets fixed...elect more Democrats.
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:22 PM
May 2022

It is so much easier to sit at a keyboard and complain than help.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
6. Dream on. It wouldn't be any more successful than the impeachments of TFG.
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:49 PM
May 2022

The Senate has to convict by 2/3, remember? How do you figure that's going to happen? Also, only one Supreme Court justice has ever been impeached, and he was acquitted.

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
24. Going into the 2nd impeachment and knowing it would likely fail, I still believe it was the
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:49 PM
May 2022

correct thing to do. Same here. Some people lied. It should be called out even if they have cover.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
8. Be a shame of Anonymous hacked the Federalist Society
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:14 PM
May 2022

and the Heritage Foundation. Make for some very interesting reading.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
16. Or a good open-records search by Bellingcat, Propublica, etc.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:20 PM
May 2022

Anne Nelson's book "How Powerful Is This Right-Wing Shadow Network?" is a powerful expose of the forces that have made the RW juggernaut work.

This needs to be made much more public. But the MSM is apparently part of the shadow network so the publication needs to be outside of their influences.

I also agree with having any/all hackers dig into corporate and RW operations. They are doing it to their opponents all the time.

While the executive branch is still in the hands of the Democrats and can still have some hope of framing the messages, let's get this information out there.

Just like we're doing with Ukraine vs. Putin. Truth vs. RW messaging.

bucolic_frolic

(43,293 posts)
9. Won't happen BUT let's have the debate, out in the open. Deworm the Court
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:21 PM
May 2022

The right has had birtherism, Whitewater, her emails, Hunter's Laptop, and lots more. Time for the left to create it's own out of genuine facts!!

paleotn

(17,963 posts)
11. Even more. Their position on abortion, no matter how they couch it....
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:06 PM
May 2022

is based on their religion. In effect, they are once again imposing their religious view from the bench in gross violation of the establishment clause. Only this time it impacts every current and future woman in America. It's really no different than them upholding a law making it illegal for me to sleep in on Sunday morning like Puritan Massachusetts.

Martin68

(22,890 posts)
13. Yes, they deserve to be impeached. Will they be impeached? No.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:13 PM
May 2022

I'm not sure this kind of hand-wringing is very constructive. Suggestions that would actually be in the realm of possibility might be more useful.

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
15. Agree
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:20 PM
May 2022

Impeach Thomas as well and expand the court. End the filibuster. If you don’t think they will expand the court and end the filibuster as soon as they rule the roost you are dreaming. They want total control and dems are too damn nice to do anything.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
39. We don't have the votes...so maybe we get off of our collective butts
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:28 PM
May 2022

(just speaking generally not meaning you) and make sure they don't win. We have to elect more Democrats. That is the only solution...so much more fun to sit on our butts and tell our elected to FIX this but seriously they can't-not without our help at the ballot box.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
17. It wont work nor will it help as we need 60 Senate votes to remove them however
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:22 PM
May 2022

there is one option we have right now that can be done with 51 votes.
That is to expand SCOTUS to 13 seats and ram through enough judges before the new year which would bring balance back to the court rather than the current majority court made of up of judges from the far right terroristic ideology spectrum.

waterwatcher123

(144 posts)
18. One does not give up simply because success is incremental or illusive.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:29 PM
May 2022

If Supreme Court nominees are allowed to lie under oath, who can you hold accountable?

h2ebits

(646 posts)
27. We impeached Trump twice and the Senate refused to convict him--it's ok
Sat May 7, 2022, 05:39 PM
May 2022

I agree we need to impeach the four of them for perjury and lying. We need to Impeach Clarence Thomas based on any evidence we might find regarding his role along with his wife's roll in the January 6 attempt to overthrow the government.

We need to expand the court immediately and we need to eliminate the filibuster.

We need to file charges against every governor and their cronies in all of the states that have recently passed the punitive repulsive abortion laws. We need to charge each and every one of them with "Crimes Against Humanity."

If the SC justices do, in fact, overturn Roe vs. Wade, we need to charge them also with "Crimes Against Humanity."

We can do it. Now is the time for more action.

h2ebits

(646 posts)
46. I believe that we have each of them on tape
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:44 AM
May 2022

under oath perjuring themselves during their hearings in front of the Senate.

brooklynite

(94,736 posts)
47. No you don't
Sun May 8, 2022, 11:36 AM
May 2022

You only have perjury if you have evidence that they INTENDED to overturn ROE and explicitly lied about that fact. You can't prove that intent, and a simple defense would be that their minds were changed by the Court arguments. Again, "we know what they meant" isn't legally admissible.

 

Joenobody

(90 posts)
30. Going to impeach...
Sat May 7, 2022, 07:26 PM
May 2022

For lying about something that was asked hypothetically?

The only defense they would need would be "my mind changed when I hears the arguments."

We'd be better off if we didn't constantly demand actions with 100% failure rates.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
45. No...that just revs up the GOP base and helps the GOP with the midterms...could we please
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:42 PM
May 2022

attempt to unite and elect more Democrats which is the only solution.

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