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Society gives the Supreme Court a pass simply because they sit in judgment of everyone from a pedestal wearing black robes. These four candidates to the Supreme Count lied under oath or perjured themselves in front of everyone. The video that recorded their answers to the question of Roe v. Wade is public knowledge.
The Supreme Court has always been a deeply flawed, political institution. "The Nine" by Jeffery Tobin does a very good job of chronicling how Sandra Day O'Connor said out loud that she could not imagine a scenario where Albert Gore could become president. Is is also ironic that then Chief Justice, William H. Rehnquist, was working on a book about the supposedly stolen election of 1876 (Tilden vs. Hayes). The Supreme Court then issued an unsigned opinion that effectively ended the 2000 election and propelled George Bush into the White House (hardly a coincidence).
These four justices deserve to be impeached and to have all the records from the Federalist Society and their collaborators in Congress spilled right out into the open. It would be a catharsis and a chance to right the ship from a court that has veered from a reasonably independent court to an overtly political institution.
mopinko
(70,225 posts)Thomas should have been dealt with as SOON as they found out his wifes involvement in Jan 6th!
fierywoman
(7,694 posts)Marys supposedly forgives them of the sin of lying?
2naSalit
(86,791 posts)However, they could be indicted for perjury during their confirmation hearings. Kind of hard to rule from the bench if you're behind bars. And also should end up being disbarred for their crimes which also makes it hard to remain on the SCOTUS.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,325 posts)that you be an attorney to sit on the Supreme Court.
I'm also for impeaching them. They, of course, would not be removed from office by the Senate but let them live with the impeachment stain for the rest of their lives.
2naSalit
(86,791 posts)For many, impeachment's natural result should be removal from office. But you're right impeachment itself is warranted though conviction is not going to happen due to the equation in the Senate.
DoJ could handle it though.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)much chance of getting one. The only way out of this is to win the midterm and that will require unity, dedication, and hard work. It is so much easier to suggest things that are impossible.
FalloutShelter
(11,879 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)give the GOP another issue to run on.
c-rational
(2,595 posts)Why not put it up for a vote - it may be one way to get more press.
jimfields33
(15,965 posts)c-rational
(2,595 posts)would loose the Hose over bringing it up once, and it would provide a good platform to provide many rebuttals of this charade of a ruling. I believe it is a false choice.
jimfields33
(15,965 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)administrations...pretty much as soon as it was up and running...the GOP started losing seats.
brooklynite
(94,736 posts)Your "one vote" would then call for weeks of a trial and Senate debate.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)It is so much easier to sit at a keyboard and complain than help.
Ocelot II
(115,858 posts)The Senate has to convict by 2/3, remember? How do you figure that's going to happen? Also, only one Supreme Court justice has ever been impeached, and he was acquitted.
c-rational
(2,595 posts)correct thing to do. Same here. Some people lied. It should be called out even if they have cover.
rsdsharp
(9,202 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)and the Heritage Foundation. Make for some very interesting reading.
erronis
(15,335 posts)Anne Nelson's book "How Powerful Is This Right-Wing Shadow Network?" is a powerful expose of the forces that have made the RW juggernaut work.
This needs to be made much more public. But the MSM is apparently part of the shadow network so the publication needs to be outside of their influences.
I also agree with having any/all hackers dig into corporate and RW operations. They are doing it to their opponents all the time.
While the executive branch is still in the hands of the Democrats and can still have some hope of framing the messages, let's get this information out there.
Just like we're doing with Ukraine vs. Putin. Truth vs. RW messaging.
Joinfortmill
(14,460 posts)LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,293 posts)The right has had birtherism, Whitewater, her emails, Hunter's Laptop, and lots more. Time for the left to create it's own out of genuine facts!!
Polybius
(15,481 posts)She was the only one that said it wasn't precedent.
paleotn
(17,963 posts)is based on their religion. In effect, they are once again imposing their religious view from the bench in gross violation of the establishment clause. Only this time it impacts every current and future woman in America. It's really no different than them upholding a law making it illegal for me to sleep in on Sunday morning like Puritan Massachusetts.
jaxexpat
(6,849 posts)Martin68
(22,890 posts)I'm not sure this kind of hand-wringing is very constructive. Suggestions that would actually be in the realm of possibility might be more useful.
Highway61
(2,568 posts)Impeach Thomas as well and expand the court. End the filibuster. If you dont think they will expand the court and end the filibuster as soon as they rule the roost you are dreaming. They want total control and dems are too damn nice to do anything.
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)(just speaking generally not meaning you) and make sure they don't win. We have to elect more Democrats. That is the only solution...so much more fun to sit on our butts and tell our elected to FIX this but seriously they can't-not without our help at the ballot box.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)there is one option we have right now that can be done with 51 votes.
That is to expand SCOTUS to 13 seats and ram through enough judges before the new year which would bring balance back to the court rather than the current majority court made of up of judges from the far right terroristic ideology spectrum.
drray23
(7,637 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)waterwatcher123
(144 posts)If Supreme Court nominees are allowed to lie under oath, who can you hold accountable?
Joinfortmill
(14,460 posts)Fla Dem
(23,753 posts)h2ebits
(646 posts)I agree we need to impeach the four of them for perjury and lying. We need to Impeach Clarence Thomas based on any evidence we might find regarding his role along with his wife's roll in the January 6 attempt to overthrow the government.
We need to expand the court immediately and we need to eliminate the filibuster.
We need to file charges against every governor and their cronies in all of the states that have recently passed the punitive repulsive abortion laws. We need to charge each and every one of them with "Crimes Against Humanity."
If the SC justices do, in fact, overturn Roe vs. Wade, we need to charge them also with "Crimes Against Humanity."
We can do it. Now is the time for more action.
brooklynite
(94,736 posts)Or does proof not matter as long as "we know" they're guilty?
h2ebits
(646 posts)under oath perjuring themselves during their hearings in front of the Senate.
brooklynite
(94,736 posts)You only have perjury if you have evidence that they INTENDED to overturn ROE and explicitly lied about that fact. You can't prove that intent, and a simple defense would be that their minds were changed by the Court arguments. Again, "we know what they meant" isn't legally admissible.
h2ebits
(646 posts)Joenobody
(90 posts)For lying about something that was asked hypothetically?
The only defense they would need would be "my mind changed when I hears the arguments."
We'd be better off if we didn't constantly demand actions with 100% failure rates.
brooklynite
(94,736 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)attempt to unite and elect more Democrats which is the only solution.