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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:02 AM May 2022

Step up, medical profession. Fertilization is the beginning of life of a zygote, not a human being.

The medical profession needs to step un now and take on the SCOTUS with science. What is a human being vs what is a zygote, fetus??

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Step up, medical profession. Fertilization is the beginning of life of a zygote, not a human being. (Original Post) Samrob May 2022 OP
They always have. TwilightZone May 2022 #1
If they won't step up, we must Novara May 2022 #2
It really makes little difference what definitions are used... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #3
The idiots killed themselves with Covid because they don't believe facts. we can do it May 2022 #4
Excellent point! Talitha May 2022 #6
I had a retired general surgeon--self proclaimed conservative--tell me mnhtnbb May 2022 #5

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
1. They always have.
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:11 AM
May 2022

You think it really matters to people who are fundamentalists or extremists?

We couldn't even get people to wear masks to protect themselves or their loved ones. They make up their own "science".

Novara

(5,844 posts)
2. If they won't step up, we must
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:14 AM
May 2022

Keep shouting that a clump of cells is not a person and theology has no place inside a woman's body.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. It really makes little difference what definitions are used...
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:15 AM
May 2022

If an egg meets a sperm, it's a human, according to the lifebots. And it is blessed by God.

Religious freedom has been mentioned as a way around it all, but many doubt we could make that work.

mnhtnbb

(31,394 posts)
5. I had a retired general surgeon--self proclaimed conservative--tell me
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:01 AM
May 2022

recently that people who are pro choice are ignorant of embryology. I decided not to challenge him because I was having lunch with him and his wife, but he was the one who brought up politics, and I didn't think getting into a fight was the thing to do. His wife eventually said "I need to go to the bathroom", which broke up lunch, and which, I suspect she said on purpose to get him to stop.

But I wanted to tell him it wasn't about embryology. Does he think all Jewish MD's don't know embryology? It's about religion, specifically a certain brand of religion, and that the Constitution protects us from certain religions trying to impose their rules on the rest of us.

First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

14th Amendment: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

I think the embryology argument is a recent talking point of the anti-choice crowd. You have to flat out tell people who want to use it, no, it's not about embryology. It's about "you" wanting to impose your religious beliefs on women when it's none of your goddamned business.

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