How an Adult Woman Was Treated in a California State College in 1964.

[MineralMan]

A senior woman, aged 21, at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo got expelled from that school. Why? Because someone reported that she had visited a male student's off-campus apartment. Expelled. The male student was not expelled. I was a freshman at that school that year.

The reasoning was that state colleges in California acted in loco parentis for students attending that school. The college was supposed to be acting "in place of parents," even for adult students. At the time, the age of majority was 21.

There is a happy ending to this. The expelled woman sued the college and the state for that action. She won. And that was the end of the in loco parentis policies of the state colleges in California. Part of her victory was tied to the fact that the male student whose apartment she visited went unpunished.

We are in serious danger of returning to times like that. Republicans and fundamentalists want to reduce women to second class status. They want control over women's behavior.

Please vote like this matters to you, and encourage everyone you know to do the same. We must stop this misogynistic attitude in its tracks. If we do not, the consequences are going to be enormous. Don't let us go back to earlier times. The "good old days" weren't.

[Emile]

1. Republicans and the Supreme Court are hell bent to turn back time.

[MineralMan]

2. Yes, exactly!

[3catwoman3]

3. "The male student was not expelled."

Of course he wasn’t.

[Emile]

4. Unbelievable, but that's the way it was back then.

It's a little better today, but still has a long way to go before women are treated equal.

[MineralMan]

6. Progress has been made, but it could be reversed all too easily.

That's one of the biggest issues facing us all right now. We need to pay close attention and act like it is a very, very serious thing.

[Emile]

7. As a chief Stewart of local 1470 we had to fight to win equal pay

for women in our factory and that was in the mid 70s. We had to fight in another arbitration to allow females the right to work in certain departments. The company said the reason why they were not allowed to work in those departments was because of the physical labor. We won that one around 1980 or so. Turned out they were more than able to do the work. Seems a shame after all the advances being made, they now want to go in reverse.

[MagickMuffin]

8. A young woman was raped at college she reported it to the school authorities, she got punished

The rapist did not.

She could finish her school work but she was not allowed to do so from the campus. She was banned from the campus. Her rapist gets to continue to b on campus and allowed to rape again.

And if and when that happens where he rapes again, once again the female will be the one to suffer.

[Emile]

9. Oh my god! That's so unfare!

[MagickMuffin]

10. It definitely is and women are always made to suffer but not the men, they get off every single time

There was a thread here about it.

It was a "christian" music school/college.

The victim went to school admins instead of going anywhere else and that was what the admins told her.

Just more trauma for being the victims of men.

[MineralMan]

5. Yes, exactly.

I dropped out of college the next year and enlisted in the USAF. When I returned to that school four years later, all of that stuff had gone away. Things were very different.

[empedocles]

12. Remarkable, how promising and different the 60's were from the ensuring decades.

The 1960's were times of very remarkable, good, change. Unfortunately, aggressive Democratic Party

factions, helped create great turmoil.

nixon, reagan, and the bushes - benefited greatly.

[MineralMan]

21. Well, many changes got started in the 60s, for sure.

They didn't happen all that quickly, though. Now, many of those changes are being challenged again. We need to pay close attention.

[empedocles]

32. LBJ/Great Society

From January 3, 1965, to January 3, 1967, Congress enacted:

The Wilderness Act, which protected over 9 million acres of forestland from development;
The Voting Rights Act banning literacy tests and other practices intended to deny African-Americans the right to vote;
The Elementary and Secondary Education Act providing federal funding for public schools;
The Social Security Amendments of 1965, which created Medicare and Medicaid;
The Older Americans Act of 1965 creating a wide range of home and community-based services for older Americans;
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 ending discriminatory immigration quotas based on ethnicity;
The Freedom of Information Act making government records more easily available to the people; and
The Housing and Urban Development Act providing funding specifically for construction of low-income housing.

[Hekate]

13. Trying to explain the social mores of the time you & I grew up in to younger folks is hard...

The social mores — and their grim consequences.

[MineralMan]

14. Yes, it's hard, but very, very important.

It might even seem unbelievable to some, but it was not that long ago, really, and could happen again very easily if we don't pay attention and work to prevent that kind of regression.

[MuseRider]

22. We have to say it over and over

it is really all we have. I know I appreciate reading it as the story that needs to be heard.

If you add what the bad things are that we tell about to all the little things that seem stupid to talk about you get a picture that is hard to believe. For women every little movement had a consequence, ourselves were really tucked in tightly where most could never see.

[childfreebychoice]

15. Returning to days when wives needed husband's signature

For sterilization, loans, bank accounts etc

[MineralMan]

17. That, too.

I'm sure the same people would like to return to that, as well.

[calimary]

28. The really shocking part is the women who seem to think that, too.

[childfreebychoice]

16. Returning to days when wives needed husband's signature

For sterilization, loans, bank accounts etc

[MuseRider]

18. In 1971 we had dress codes

at my University. Women wore dresses. The year before I went they had to wear white gloves while on campus, you could remove them when you got into your classroom. Men had nothing, they did what they wanted and the looked how they wanted and were never checked for dress code violations. All this during the "hippie" days of free love, love beads and leather. I was lucky, we managed to get rid of all the dress codes that year for the next year. 1971 being that kind of a year!

In the reverse, as a music ed major I got all the usual, don't you just want to get married and have babies? All that crap before we could be recommended into our major. To me that was infuriating and stupid and demeaning but just part of the way life was back then BUT the men? In those same days to be a music ed major, to want to teach music to kids was HIGHLY suspect and their questions were things like, "Why do you want to do a job that women can do? Do you like boys? Do you like men? How many women have you dated? Did you like them?" All followed by the final question, "Are you a homosexual?"

In this one sense we were equally suspect for one thing or the other. They did get through and made half again as much as a woman was ever allowed to earn from a school system to later become about twice as much (men had to support their families doncha know?).

[MineralMan]

19. There were so many contradictory policies.

It was intensely frustrating. Of course, it varied from school to school, but it was a difficult time. Changes happened, but very slowly. I'm afraid that changes for the worse will happen faster. Repression always has supporters.

[MyMission]

20. Most women know we're now at war for our rights

We've been battling for decades, as your story and the replies demonstrate.

The reversal of Roe v. Wade is/will be a declaration of war, against me, and members of my gender, and those who support our reproductive rights. We are the majority.

Women, of every possible description, young, old, attached, single, widowed; mother's or not, educated or not, most of us understand how damaging and insulting this is. And many men understand this also, and I'm grateful for your/their support in this. But as women it's our fight, because it's an attack on our autonomy, and on our gender. We support each other, especially when push comes to shove, which it has.

Someone should leak a proposed draft legislating women in the US must wear a birka too.
Just modify the word Taliban in the news with US. Not as a joke, but an extreme example of where we're heading. Except we're not. We will win this war!

[MineralMan]

24. I stand with women in all of this.

I will continue to support everyone's rights. As far as I'm able, I will fight against this new repressive crap that is being proposed, just like I fought to change things back then.

[MuseRider]

26. What you said! WHAT YOU SAID!!!

"Women, of every possible description, young, old, attached, single, widowed; mother's or not, educated or not, most of us understand how damaging and insulting this is. And many men understand this also, and I'm grateful for your/their support in this. But as women it's our fight, because it's an attack on our autonomy, and on our gender. We support each other, especially when push comes to shove, which it has."

Well said!

I appreciate men who want to help as well. They just need to know that they are not going to run it. This is their time to let us go, follow and support. Ideas? fine Helping out? fine The process belongs to us and needs to stay there. Honestly I think the younger generations of men have come to understand that and the older generations, like mine, are coming around.

I think many men understand this, thanks MineralMan for being with us and being concerned and supporting us.

Thanks to all the men who see this and understand this.

[COL Mustard]

23. My son graduated from Poly.

It’s a beautiful campus and I’m surprised he came back East.

[MineralMan]

25. It's a pretty good state University.

It's in a terrific place, too. I lived in that area for 35 years, and left only because my wife's parents needed our help. Now, though, it is priced right out of my range. We just bought a new place here in Minnesota, so we're here for good now. But, the Twin cities are also a very nice place to be living, mostly.

[jeffreyi]

27. 'member the 60's?

We rebelled against that shit. It went away, too.

[panader0]

29. When I was a college freshman in'68, the women burned their bras and the men

burned their draft cards.

[MineralMan]

30. I was back in college in 1970.

I started college in 1963, and got my BA in 1972. I took four years off while in the USAF. When my enlistment was over, I returned to college about a year later. I was older, more serious, and it seemed very easy to me. I used up my GI Bill by doing a Master's program, and then set out on my career as a magazine journalist.

Over 10 years to get my degree. Well worth it. I got to see some major changes during that decade, for sure.

[hunter]

31. I'm not sure how I would have ended up under a policy of *in loco parentis*

As it was I quit high school for college at sixteen. A mandatory one unit college class for us minors each term was meant to help us along.

There was a very perceptible feeling in some classes that the professors or other instructors didn't like us minors; that they didn't like self-censoring themselves just because a minor was present.

The worst of the mental illness that started to afflict me in adolescence was also coming on strong. My parents got no wind of it, not from school anyways.

At eighteen I was worldly, but I was also flat out crazy.

At nineteen I was "asked" to take time off from school for the first time, the threat being permanent expulsion, explicitly for fighting with a teaching assistant, but there was more than that. My parents didn't ask, they were already overwhelmed by other crazy, mostly my crazy grandma, but my siblings were contributing as well.

My third round of school, as a twenty one year old adult, I sometimes wonder what would have happened if the university had been able to call my parents and tell them, "Hey, your kid is living in his car in a church parking lot and the campus and local police consider him an amusing and mostly harmless diversion from their usual duties..."

I'll never know how my parents would have coped with that. Maybe that's a good thing.

It took me nine years to get a respectable bachelors degree and I didn't ever join the military. I do have a nice collection of stories and scars from that time, so maybe it was worth it.

I have stories of women of my life, in those days, that are not really mine to tell. My first serious girlfriend's dad was horrible. The most honorable thing he ever did was drop dead and leave his wealth to his daughter who he respected as an engineer and almost respected as a man. My girlfriend's girlfriend, the woman I introduced her to and she later married, her dad was a fucking monster. Nobody was sad when he died. Take out the trash.

[Demovictory9]

33. 1980s..my college..overseas semesters in europe. Boys..no.curfew. Maid svc

California Male students got maid svc and no curfew

Females.
No maid svc.for their rooms and had a curfew

[Rhiannon12866]

34. My mother graduated from Syracuse University in 1949. Female students had a curfew back then

My Dad also graduated from Syracuse (1950) and male students had no curfew back then. Got this information from my mother...