Staaaaahhhhhpppp! Please! Just stop!
Since the leak came out, we are being treated to a host of messages that amount to, "If we're going to take away women's right to determine what happens to their own bodies, we have to do X."
"If we're going to take away women's rights, we have to make the fathers pay."
"If we're going to take away women's rights, we should raise taxes so the state will financially support the mother as she raises the child."
"If we're going to take away women's rights, we have to hurt those who voted for it in their wallets!"
These "solutions" are everywhere. Memes, posts, comments from pundits and celebrities.
What ALL of these are saying is basically this: "OK. Go ahead and take away women's rights. But it'll cost you."
NO! JUST NO!
NONE OF THESE "solutions" supports women. All of them blithely allow for the enslavement of women. They are nonsense spews that encourage complacency in the face of an assault on the rights of the largest number of US citizens ever.
Please. Can we just kick this nonsense to the curb where it belongs.
The message is not, "If you're going to take away women's rights you have to do X."
The message is DO NOT TAKE AWAY WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
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on plans for larger protests. I'll bring it here if BigmanPigman doesn't first. (She's always right on top of this stuff. 
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social media, despite my own efforts. Even here, I got some absurd pushback and lukewarm reception on the plan.
But I'm still going to do it as I look for other efforts. The Women's March seems to be organizing something in DC next week. I live in NY and am not finding something here. If there's nothing here, I'll take the train down.
But it requires buying a ticket on the train! 
just another example of things I wonder about here from time to time.
So many Dem/lib/progressive fundraisers are treating this as a fundraising opportunity. I can't tell you how many emails I've received in the last 6 or 7 days and the message has been pretty much the same thing: "Oh no, they're going to overturn Roe! Don't let it happen! Donate HERE xxx because we're fighting for you!"
I'm getting really tired of these fundraising people who are telling me over and over that the ship is gonna sink unless I give them more money.
I always wonder what they’re doing with the money they already have. It’s always “send more!” And “send another 6 dollars every month…”. Never-ending! It’s a freakin’ pile-on.
Makes me sorry I ever donated to anybody in the first place. All they did is spread my contact info around.
Some reward for an honest effort to be helpful.
... but that puts us on everybody's "sucker" list. And you know what that means.
Those posts have been bugging the crap out of me, but I couldn't quite put my finger on exactly WHAT it was that bugged me about them. You just nailed it.
All the child support, free health care, free day care, and free anything else in the world does not make up for losing one's bodily autonomy or having a 50 year old constitutional right ripped away!
I wish there was a lot more help available for those who would prefer to have their babies if they could just afford it. That would be great. BUT it would solve nothing for those who simply DON'T WANT to have their bodies held hostage for 9 months and SHOULD NOT be forced to go through all the discomforts, inconveniences , and outright dangers of pregnancy and childbirth just to satisfy the dictates of someone else's religion. 
Anyone who thinks "punishing men" would IN ANY WAY make up for denying women the right to control our own bodies really needs to rethink this whole thing.
Thanks for pointing out the gaping holes in this line of reasoning!
It's the ones that don't that are the problem.
I think too many people, not just men, forget what carrying a pregnancy to term actually entails, especially the risks involved. We've become way too blasé, as a society, about those risks, and some people are in need of a reality check on that score.
Same thing with the psychological aspects of giving up a child for adoption. I've never wanted to punch someone in the face so badly as when Amy Coney Barrett said it shouldn't be a problem now that you can just drop a baby off at the nearest firehouse! Like "You don't have to raise it, so what's the big deal?"
It's true that money can be a big factor in some pregnant people's abortion decisions, but it is FAR from the only reason people decide to have abortions. The bottom line is that no one should be forced to stay pregnant and give birth against their will, regardless of any other factors. The bottom line, as I know you're well aware, is that women should always have a CHOICE.