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RandySF

(58,919 posts)
Sun May 8, 2022, 01:45 PM May 2022

Amy Coney Barrett, Samuel Alito Reference 'Domestic Supply Of Infants' In Attempts To Overturn Roe V

The leak of a majority draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito this week, which revealed the Majority Conservative Supreme Court does intend to overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, is raising alarms among many not just because of what it would mean in terms of women's rights to make decisions for their own bodies, but also some of the alarming language within the draft.

In the draft, which was leaked to Politico, Alito references adoption as a reason for abortion to be overturned, using the phrase “domestic supply of infants” to indicate that less abortion would help increase the supply of babies that adoptive mothers are seeking—and that current safe haven laws and other programs allow women to safely give their children up with no repercussions.

Many have picked up on the phrase, as Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who was appointed and confirmed to the court in the final weeks of Donald Trump’s presidency prior to his losing the election to President Joe Biden, made a similar argument in December when hearing the Dobbs v. Jackson case addressing Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban. During that time, Barrett, who is an adoptive mother argued that adoption still protects women from forced motherhood and “the choice, more focused, would be between, say, the ability to get an abortion at 23 weeks, or the state requiring the woman to go 15, 16 weeks more and then terminate parental rights at the conclusion,” Salon reports.

Many have since condemned the commentary, comparing it to treating women as cattle for breeding, as well as “The Handmaid’s Tale,” stating that the terminology was also reminiscent of human trafficking.



https://www.ibtimes.com/amy-coney-barrett-samuel-alito-reference-domestic-supply-infants-attempts-overturn-3498087

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Amy Coney Barrett, Samuel Alito Reference 'Domestic Supply Of Infants' In Attempts To Overturn Roe V (Original Post) RandySF May 2022 OP
Quoting a CDC report. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2022 #1
Not the point. RandySF May 2022 #5
This is actually the most offensive thing about the whole leak Freddie May 2022 #2
It's a literal quote from a CDC report LeftInTX May 2022 #3
And it's no longer socially unacceptable to be an unwed... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #7
"Potential" adoptive parents have no legal parental rights LeftInTX May 2022 #8
I think non-white-males should be cautious about the implications AnnaLee May 2022 #4
And how long before the children born to these women are removed from them? no_hypocrisy May 2022 #6
Is Phoney Coney a witch? moondust May 2022 #9
It nauseates me kwolf68 May 2022 #10

RandySF

(58,919 posts)
5. Not the point.
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:21 PM
May 2022

Justice Alito uses the phrase in creating a regime where women are forced to carry babies to term so others can adopt.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
2. This is actually the most offensive thing about the whole leak
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:01 PM
May 2022

I knew they thought of us as livestock, I underestimated quite how literally.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
3. It's a literal quote from a CDC report
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:12 PM
May 2022

They're taking it out of context and twisting it to fit their agenda.

There is a shortage of adoptable infants because only 1% of mothers relinquish their infants for adoption.

The report provides no information about abortion or even contraception.

Not referenced are other reports that show up to 40% of live infants are born to single women. These single women are not choosing adoptions.

In other words: There is a shortage of infants for adoption because single mothers no longer give up their infants for adoption.
The Right To Life people run crisis pregnancy centers that hook up pregnant women with all sorts of programs such as WIC, food stamps etc etc etc.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. And it's no longer socially unacceptable to be an unwed...
Sun May 8, 2022, 05:32 PM
May 2022

mother. No need to whisk the mother out of state and send the kid off to adoption for the sake of how things should look to polite society.

I don't know how common this actually was, but the thought of breeding stock in any way is abominable. The lack of "acceptable" babies for adoption is not really a problem.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
8. "Potential" adoptive parents have no legal parental rights
Sun May 8, 2022, 05:41 PM
May 2022

I can feel compassion for women who can't have children and wish they had a child, but they do not have legal standing as a parent. (Maybe they do if they enter a contract with a surrogate, but that would probably be a different type of law) However, starry eyed women who wish they could adopt an infant or wish they could get pregnant, just don't have legal standing.

Prior to the 1960's, it was fairly easy to adopt a healthy infant.

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
4. I think non-white-males should be cautious about the implications
Sun May 8, 2022, 02:14 PM
May 2022

Black women in slave days were treated like breeding stock and black men were genetically selected as sperm donners. (in the sense that they were large and strong) Many people in the anti-abortion movements are also white supremacists and/or evangelicals who believe America was set aside for white people by Jesus. Women and minority men especially need to understand the implications of "states rights" arguments that are used to oppose personal rights and liberties. Analogies matter.

https://medium.com/the-aambc-journal/the-truth-about-american-slave-breeding-farms-ee631e863e2c

The Truth About American Slave Breeding Farms

“By the 1820s planters and would-be planters were moving in large numbers to places previously unavailable for settlement and growing the fiber for sale in Europe and New England, where a textile industry was beginning to thrive. The extension of the so-called Cotton Kingdom required new laborers. As of 1808, when Congress ended the nation’s participation in the international slave trade, planters could no longer import additional slaves from Africa or the West Indies; the only practical way of increasing the number of slave laborers was through new births. With so much at stake, black women’s reproductive role became politically, as well as economically, decisive. If enslaved mothers did not bear sufficient numbers of children to take the place of aged and dying workers, the South could not continue as a slave society.”

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
6. And how long before the children born to these women are removed from them?
Sun May 8, 2022, 05:08 PM
May 2022

In other words, the state finds a reason to take away their babies to increase that "domestic supply of infants".

Unwed mothers. Poor mothers. Mothers who don't get along with their mother and father. Mothers who are drop-outs. Mothers without a job.

Child Protection would investigate, find a reason to recommend removal, the child put in foster care, the mother's parental rights terminated, and that child adopted with the mother's name removed from his/her birth certificate.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
9. Is Phoney Coney a witch?
Sun May 8, 2022, 05:59 PM
May 2022

How can Sammy be sure? Does he have proof to the contrary? What if he finds out the truth too late? Is the public in danger?

Of course he knows it is a very serious charge if the penalty is execution.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
10. It nauseates me
Sun May 8, 2022, 07:10 PM
May 2022

They shoved Barrett through to take RBG's seat. Just a callous display of unbridled power.
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