Who knew there were so many ignorant or insane voters

[Cyrano]

The vast majority of Republican voters can't seem to grasp that, in casting a vote for a Republican, they are voting to raise their own "misery index," and lower their own financial well being.

About 74 million of them voted for Trump in 2020. Yet, if they didn't see back then how badly the Republicans were screwing America, how have they not seen it since?

Yeah, I've heard the explanations: "Cult," "Own the libs," "God is on our side," etc. But really, how incredibly dense do you have to be before you realize that you're fucking your own family, yourself, and all those who believe as you do?

I know that many (most?) of them can't spell "fascism." But imagine the betrayal they'll feel when they find that they too are "owned" and are nothing more than the property of the wealthy and powerful.

[stopdiggin]

1. raising hand .. -(nt)-

[w0nderer]

25. +1 unless stupid one would have to raise the hand here n/t

[randr]

2. A majority of these nuts vote

Unlike the majority of Americans who can find any numbers of reasons not to vote. This is the reason we live a country with Minority Rule

[Cyrano]

4. Minority rule is in the Constitution

California has a population of about 40 million. Wyoming has a population of about a dozen people. Yet they both have two Senators.

As for the House, gerrymandering provides the remainder of the minority rule

[OMGWTF]

14. The Senate is undemocratic

I saw a map that showed more people in LA county than a bunch of red states. Frankly, I want a divorce from these ungrateful taker states that are dragging our entire country into the gutter.

[griffi94]

18. I think an agreed upon separation

Is going to be the only way the blue states can save themselves.
I certainly don't see Republicans giving up their power. They've demonstrated
that the Rule of Law means nothing. Of course, they will expect blue states to honor any "laws" they pass.

[MadameButterfly]

29. yeah but they hold the natural areas

that would be destroyed if it was up to them. And pollution/climate change doesn't know borders. I've dreamed of red and blue going their own way, but I'm afraid we're stuck with them.

[randr]

27. California was not a State when the Constitution was written

The lopsided nature of representation is an anomaly and we should have corrected it long ago.

[Cyrano]

31. That would mean amending the Constitution

Accomplishing this would be more difficult than asking tigers to not eat meat.

[RAB910]

3. The anti-American right-wing propaganda machine is their greatest accomplishment

it is second to none when it comes to brainwashing the masses

[Cyrano]

6. Frogs in boiling water?

Sure seems that way, with Rupert Murdoch handling the heat control.

[RAB910]

10. Not just Rupert, how many farmers allowed Rush Limbaugh to poison their minds and corrupt their soul

s? On top of all the outlets spewing this crap their are well funded right-wing think tanks telling them what to say

[Cyrano]

11. Yep. We ceded the playing field to them

and the price for that huge mistake is the loss of America.

I really hate to sound so negative, but we're going to need some kind of "miracle," or "great awakening" to hold onto our country. Many think GOTV will do it. Well, it won't, in too many states where Republicans are counting and recounting the votes until they come out "right."

Wish I had the answer of how to stop the barbarians.

[UTUSN]

5. Not to mention "so many ignorant or insane" members of Congress!

[Cyrano]

8. The insane ones seem to be mostly Republicans

The ignorant ones seem to be mostly Democrats who are clueless as how to fight a political war.

[NanceGreggs]

7. I'll say it again ...

The smartest thing the Republican party ever did was to prey on the easily-led, the ill-informed, and the downright stupid.

That is their "base" - voters who don't have the intellectual wherewithal to question anything, nor the common sense to recognize when they're being fucked.

[Cyrano]

9. A "common sense" vaccine might

work, but conning them into taking it would be the problem.

[calimary]

12. Call it the Republican vaccine.

It protects you from Democrats!

Or maybe just call it anything you think will work, knowing how easily-led they are. Use the knuckledraggers’ talking points. You’ll sound like you’re “trustable” as Kevin McCarthy might say. And they won’t be able to tell you just rode in on your own little Trojan horse.

Seriously. I’m 100% for sneaking and subterfuge at this point. Honesty hasn’t worked.

[MadameButterfly]

30. except all but a handful of oligarchs

will find themselves screwed under authoritarian control. Is that smart? Willing to give up democracy to preserve white male power only to hand over that power?

Meanwhile, caught up in this power struggle we ignore the plight of the planet. Putin and Trump may not only end democracy, they'll end the planet for humankind.

If we were all united it would take all we've got to save the planet and we can't even begin.

I know what you mean, but I don't see any evidence of smart in the equation.

[Tommymac]

13. Cult brainwashing is extremely powerful and effective. Very hard to overcome a cultist world view.

Yes, a lot of them are not very smart.

But a good proportion ARE.

RW Conservative Movement Cult brainwashing has gone on for decades, since the 1950's, and really took wing with the advent of widespread cable news shows like 'Fair & Balanced' Fox Propaganda in the 1990's, and Rush's vitriolic nationally syndicated radio show.

These people as a class have been undergoing this intense mind control from RW Radio and TV blasting in their ears for years and decades 24/7.

THAT is almost impossible to overcome - they are programmed not to listen to non-cult members. Not to listen to any other reality except what the cult deems is reality.

Ain't happening in this generation for sure - only by silencing the RW propaganda machine will we have a chance of living among mostly sane people in the future.

[Escurumbele]

15. They voted for a republican who is in jail right now, and those who voted for him I bet

do not know the guy is in jail.

GOP Candidate Accused Of Murdering His Wife Wins Primary Election From Jail
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&t=77s|

Think about it...The guy is in jail for KILLING HIS WIFE, and he admitted it...but these ignorant jackasses still voted for him.

[Ferrets are Cool]

16. Most of the 74 million eat propaganda for breakfast

And because it feeds their own beliefs, they continue to eat it for lunch and dinner also.

Also, they are fucking stupid.

[c-rational]

20. +1

[xxqqqzme]

17. Be a candidate

Run for an office. They come out in droves. You will learn to recognize them as you look over the people assembled to hear your words of wisdom....you think.
HA!
As you deliver your stump speech, you can read their reactions on their faces. You make mental notes of what is hitting home and what is falling flat.

I highly recommend running for an office. It is an education in democracy. I discovered early on the candidates with a significant other had an advantage. Someone is out there listening and will tell you how you are doing. They hear crowd noises and observations you don't. They will debrief you later. I came to consider being single a disadvantage.

My biggest discovery was the undecided voter is a myth.

[Amishman]

19. I think most aren't enthusiastic about the Pubs, they just dislike what we offer more

I've mentioned my brother-in-law many times over the years. Gun nut but also pro choice and supports LBGTQ rights. Votes for the Pubs every time because guns matter more to him.

[c-rational]

21. Yes thy are ignorant but my concern is they will never find out they were betrayed because of

the propaganda they are fed. They will see everyone they know in the same boat, and not realize they had a choice.

[Novara]

22. Their hate is stronger than their self-interest.

Remember all the opinion pieces urging us to "understand them" since 2016?

Yeah, no. It's clear their racism and hate is their driving force. They've been given permission to hate and that's exactly what drives them. They feel vindicated because a "president" hates the same people they do.

Appeal to people's hate and you have them in your pocket forever.

[DENVERPOPS]

23. As James Carville said on election night in 2016

"The Republican voters are going to find out their voting has consequences" and laughed.

I think he assumed that they weren't even dumber than he had thought when he made that statement............

[TeamProg]

24. Pretty much it. n/t

[Xipe Totec]

26. HRC nt

[allegorical oracle]

28. Went to a utility meeting in my rural area yesterday. Blew my mind...

The meeting drew about 200 people to vote on our electric co-op's bylaws. When my neighbor and I walked in, a gospel quartet was singing and it was pretty good. But then the quartet struck up "Proud to be American." Everyone stood up like the national anthem was being played, raised their arms up in the air and swayed back and forth with their eyes closed. My neighbor and I stayed seated. A man next to my neighbor leaned toward her and pointed out that HE had voted for tfg.

We were there out of civic "duty" -- but it turned into an uncomfortable experience. Speakers all blamed the current administration for inflation and difficulties in getting repairs done to our electric grid. Genuinely felt like my neighbor and I were among pod people from another planet.

[Cyrano]

32. You have a good chance of being burned at the stake. Run.