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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:22 PM May 2022

So they want people to have all these babies and

Not support affordable childcare
Not support family leave
Divert funds from public schools
Not support free school lunch programs
Not support equal pay
Not support affordable medical care


Since the SCOTUS draft opinion leaked, I’ve read articles of Republican legislators pushing bills banning or putting impractical restrictions on abortion and also banning contraception, and yet, they are offering no support.

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So they want people to have all these babies and (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2022 OP
This is so the mothers will give the babies up for adoption. Irish_Dem May 2022 #1
Makes perfect sense.... to a Repub... albacore May 2022 #5
Yes we may go back to orphanages. Institutional care for children. Irish_Dem May 2022 #6
They want Gerber Babies. As long as there are states Phoenix61 May 2022 #7
There's a profit motive somewhere. Who is secretly investing in these adoption service firms? TheBlackAdder May 2022 #13
I believe Coney Barret The Wizard May 2022 #18
DeVos family, deep ties to agency where kidnapped immigrant children were sent. Irish_Dem May 2022 #29
They want us dead, over-whelmed without options and powerless. 58Sunliner May 2022 #15
How many of these people wanting to adopt will want babies born to addicted parents, babies who have smirkymonkey May 2022 #20
It's also to keep the poor, poor and subject to abuse. nt enneacanthus May 2022 #2
This is not about babies. Novara May 2022 #3
You nailed it. Delmette2.0 May 2022 #31
They REALLY want 'others' to not DO IT! elleng May 2022 #4
it has NEVER been about the babies Skittles May 2022 #8
Quebec did free childcare to increase fertility 20 years ago. They've applegrove May 2022 #9
Imo people who don't have children for whatever reasons Meowmee May 2022 #10
They don't even want to do anything to keep them from getting shot and killed at school. n/t Mr.Bill May 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #12
That's the whole idea. They want dumb, free, submissive labor to exploit bucolic_frolic May 2022 #14
Once we have enough forced state babies, we can stop the immigrants bottomofthehill May 2022 #23
Maybe it's GOP Lebensraum? /nt bucolic_frolic May 2022 #28
It's an old conservative Christian tactic NullTuples May 2022 #16
Drop unwanted babies off at the fire station BlueIdaho May 2022 #17
Yes, that's HandmaidAmy's solution. 🙄 ShazzieB May 2022 #19
At least I was being sarcastic BlueIdaho May 2022 #22
Let's all drop our asses off on Amy's front yard... LeftInTX May 2022 #24
That is an actual comment/question from the bench by Amy of God bottomofthehill May 2022 #25
It's simple demographics. Counter replacement theory by forcibly increasing the white birth rate. Marcuse May 2022 #21
Assuming this ChristoFascist Lebensborn program BlueIdaho May 2022 #26
Plus, they want cheap labor. Duppers May 2022 #27
They don't want to address America's high maternity mortality rates Bucky May 2022 #30

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
1. This is so the mothers will give the babies up for adoption.
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:26 PM
May 2022

If mothers cannot afford the kids, they have to give them up.

This will feed the lucrative 'infant domestic market."
(Selling babies.)

albacore

(2,399 posts)
5. Makes perfect sense.... to a Repub...
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:31 PM
May 2022

Currently, there are over 400,000 kids in foster care, and 114,000 available for adoption.
We NEED more kids to onto those two lists.
Maybe orphanages...?...workhouses..?

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
7. They want Gerber Babies. As long as there are states
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:33 PM
May 2022

where people who don’t live in poverty can get abortions it won’t solve the issue of a lack of Gerber Babies. That is why McTurtle said the repukes would go for a national ban on abortion.

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
15. They want us dead, over-whelmed without options and powerless.
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:29 PM
May 2022

Babies to adopt is just a bonus for them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. How many of these people wanting to adopt will want babies born to addicted parents, babies who have
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:08 PM
May 2022

birth defects, babies who were undernourished or came from mothers who were physically abused, minority babies? This is a lot more complicated than they think it is, but then again we all know how short-sighted and simplistic they are.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
9. Quebec did free childcare to increase fertility 20 years ago. They've
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:41 PM
May 2022

proved that free childcare more than pays for itself in tax revenues as kids fit in more and thrive, and mothers and fathers get greater work experience.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
10. Imo people who don't have children for whatever reasons
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:42 PM
May 2022

Should be paid, tax credits etc.- please pay me retroactively too.

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
14. That's the whole idea. They want dumb, free, submissive labor to exploit
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:26 PM
May 2022

At each life stage they make money off you. They refuse to provide contraception or abortion, then sell your babies for adoption. You work to support you and buy their products. They deregulate so they can pollute freely and run their businesses profitably. You wear out fast, but they don't care. You gave birth to your replacement. No Medicare so you die younger. Cheaper for them!

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
23. Once we have enough forced state babies, we can stop the immigrants
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:13 PM
May 2022

The Trumpublican mind set

Right now businesses need the cheap labor that comes across the border. Once we have a steady stream of domestic babies, we can afford to actually close the border.

The last one who wants the border closed are the small businesses that rely on undocumented, untaxed, under the table workers who do not cost them anything.

If you want the border crisis to stop, fine th e shit out of companies and people (Nannie’s and landscapers) who take advantage of their legal status to under pay them and the cost(social security, unemployment, medical, retirement) that go along with the work force.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
16. It's an old conservative Christian tactic
Sun May 8, 2022, 08:30 PM
May 2022

Make everyone except those in power too poor to be able to focus on much beyond getting through each day.

Give the masses plenty of life stressors and things they have to struggle against. Corporations are more than willing to help, and a surprising number of top capitalists also seem to at least talk the talk of doomsday Christians.

Then offer them the afterlife, where nothing is uncomfortable. And in the meantime, offer them services from school to food assistance...through churches.

A name I was taught for it recently is, "Feudal Capitalism" and it fits very nicely.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
19. Yes, that's HandmaidAmy's solution. 🙄
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:05 PM
May 2022

"Hey, what's the big deal about forced pregnancy and childbirth? It's not like you have to RAISE the kid." (No, those weren't her exact words, but that was the subtext.)

I just posted in another thread that I've never wanted to punch someone in the face so badly as I did her when she made those remarks about dropping babies off at the firehouse.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
24. Let's all drop our asses off on Amy's front yard...
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:13 PM
May 2022

With notes attached "Hey raise me!"
"I want food!"
"I'm not an abortion! I'm here for you!"
"Can we use your restroom?"
"We need showers!"
"Adoption at any age!"

She will love piles of lovely bodies on her front lawn!
It might look like Woodstock.
I promise I will not take a bath beforehand!

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
25. That is an actual comment/question from the bench by Amy of God
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:18 PM
May 2022

From Politico



During oral arguments, Barrett, who is herself an adoptive mother, suggested that the existence of safe-haven laws and adoption in general rendered moot the pro-choice argument that abortion access protects women from "forced motherhood." Rather, she continued, "the choice, more focused, would be between, say, the ability to get an abortion at 23 weeks, or the state requiring the woman to go 15, 16 weeks more and then terminate parental rights at the conclusion."

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. Assuming this ChristoFascist Lebensborn program
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:24 PM
May 2022

Doesn’t blow up in their face. What happens when these little white warriors decide they want to join the other side and fight for human rights and women's rights? Off to the gas chamber with them?

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
30. They don't want to address America's high maternity mortality rates
Mon May 9, 2022, 08:26 AM
May 2022

Probably to most of these Republican men, forced high birth rates alongside neglect-caused high maternal mortality rates... looks like a market solution to the population question

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