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NJCher

(35,675 posts)
Sun May 8, 2022, 09:59 PM May 2022

Is Ukraine conducting a sabotage campaign inside Russia? (fires)

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A deadly fire at an aerospace research institute in Tver, northwest of Moscow. Another blaze at a munitions factory in Perm, more than 1,100 kilometers (680 miles) to the east. And fires in two separate oil depots in Bryansk, near Belarus.

Coincidences, or a sign that Ukrainians or their supporters are mounting a campaign of sabotage inside Russia to punish Moscow for invading their country?

Since the blaze at the Central Research Institute of the Aerospace Defense Forces in Tver on April 21, which killed at least 17 people, social media has leapt on every report of a fire somewhere in Russia -- especially at a sensitive location -- as a sign that the country is under covert attack.

No one is claiming responsibility, but analysts say at least some of the incidents, particularly those in Bryansk, point to a possible effort by Kyiv to bring the war to their invaders.

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The article is loaded with additional fire stories, maps, quotes, and other sources.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/is-ukraine-conducting-a-sabotage-campaign-inside-russia/ar-AAX2dZX?cvid=720a376f3d4847cf993a1fd742a0141e&ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover


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Is Ukraine conducting a sabotage campaign inside Russia? (fires) (Original Post) NJCher May 2022 OP
I hope so. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #1
What time is the Moscow parade? C_U_L8R May 2022 #2
Would be awful if another building blew up during the parade. gab13by13 May 2022 #3
A real shame C_U_L8R May 2022 #4
I haven't heard anything moondust May 2022 #5
just saw the parade on tv NJCher May 2022 #10
The "Ukrainian Ministry of Accidental Russian Fires" is a good place to follow all of this. Renew Deal May 2022 #6
Oh dear, oh dear, what a shame, what a shame... calimary May 2022 #7
Here's Ukraine's trolling denial caraher May 2022 #8
Not too long ago I re-read "The Russia House" thucythucy May 2022 #11
Fingers crossed 🤞 that if they are they keep doing it! 😈 🔥👍 nt Raine May 2022 #9

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
10. just saw the parade on tv
Mon May 9, 2022, 07:44 AM
May 2022

Today Show. Putin looked sad and weary.

The soldiers were all marching lockstep. It was "nazi-esque." The commentator said that Putin remarked to the crowd that some had come straight from the battlefield.

They interviewed cheery Russians who think they're going to win because it "cannot be otherwise."

They put on a big display of military hardware, including something that reinforces they have nukes. I didn't quite catch all that but what was shown on the screen was a big missile.

On the whole, I was surprised by two things:

1) how absolutely worn out and weary Putin looked. He could barely stand to be at the unknown soldier wreath, saluting and then rapidly turning around and getting out of there.

2) how affluent some of the Russians looked when they were interviewed. They were wearing nice clothing. The streets and everywhere you could see was clean and spiffy.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
6. The "Ukrainian Ministry of Accidental Russian Fires" is a good place to follow all of this.
Sun May 8, 2022, 10:59 PM
May 2022

And have to love the handle: EPICGOPFAIL

https://twitter.com/EPICGOPFAIL

This map is already out of date:



thucythucy

(8,052 posts)
11. Not too long ago I re-read "The Russia House"
Mon May 9, 2022, 08:47 PM
May 2022

by John LeCarre.

The plot involves a Russian scientist trying to tell the west that the Russian nuclear weapons program is riddled with corruption and incompetence, a "knight dying inside its armor." Because of how the then Soviet Union was run, no one had the courage to tell the powers that be there of how bad things were.

Looks like LeCarre was spot on, as usual.

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