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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsnew law requires removal of nonfunctional (never walked on) grass in Las Vegas
Where Lawns Are Outlawed (and Dug Up, and Carted Away)With drought and growth taking a toll on the Colorado River, the source of 90 percent of the regions water, a new law in Las Vegas mandates the removal of turf, patch by patch.
Jaime Gonzalez of Par 3 Landscape and Maintenance removed grass at a condominium complex in Las Vegas. The lawn is considered nonfunctional under a new state law.
Wrangling a heavy gas-powered sod cutter, Mr. Gonzalez sliced the turf away from the soil underneath, like peeling a potato. Two co-workers followed, gathering the strips for disposal.
Mr. Gonzalez took little pleasure in destroying this patch of fescue. But its better to replace it with something else, he said. The ground would soon be covered with gravel dotted with plants like desert spoon and red yucca.
Under a state law passed last year that is the first of its kind in the nation, patches of grass like this, found along streets and at housing developments and commercial sites in and around Las Vegas, must be removed in favor of more desert-friendly landscaping.
The offense? They are nonfunctional, serving only an aesthetic purpose. Seldom, if ever, walked on and kept alive by sprinklers, they are wasting a resource, water, that has become increasingly precious.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/climate/las-vegas-lawn-grass-ban.html
Larry Fossan, facilities maintenance manager at Sun City Anthem, a large planned community near Las Vegas, on a stretch of lawn that will have to be removed.
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The southwest region of Las Vegas is expanding.
3Hotdogs
(12,382 posts)Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)grass... like between side walk and street.
Enter stage left
(3,396 posts)and there are about 50 courses in & around LV.
Can you imagine how much water that takes?
LeftInTX
(25,343 posts)Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)hunter
(38,313 posts)In many places this treated sewage is being turned back into tap water.
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)LeftInTX
(25,343 posts)Treated sewage still contains lots of salts and other chemicals, which are expensive to remove in order to become drinkable (I believe reverse osmosis??)
Recycled water has been treated with chlorine to kill pathogens, but it isn't safe to drink due to all the other chemicals.
hunter
(38,313 posts)The sewage is treated to near-potable quality and then salts are removed by reverse osmosis.
This doesn't require huge amounts of energy as desalinating seawater does.
That's what makes treated sewage valuable in places with limited fresh water supplies.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)LeftInTX
(25,343 posts)It's too late in the season to plant anything. If by chance it rains, there will be erosion.
Stupid idea!
Fall is for planting, but you don't have to remove the turf. Let it die and plant in the fall.
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)they won't accept dead grass.
BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)I think AZ has done this for some time now as well as CA. They then do hardscaping around it.
A bunch of the Ag departments of the western universities have been spearheading some of it.
I even found this article from almost 10 years ago regarding your state - https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/lifestyle/2013/08/28/new-texas-law-forbids-hoas-to-ban-some-water-conservation-methods/
Fall is obviously better but as long as any plants are well watered and mulched, it can be done. Am guessing they use gravel as a mulch as well.
obamanut2012
(26,077 posts)The HOA makes us have grass out front, but I'm in the middle of pulling up the sod in the back and planting herb bushes like lavender and rosemary the critters here don't eat, among nice little white stones and pea gravel.
BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)Get some dragonfruit trained up and spilling over an arbor in a hard-scaped area. Get some colorful bougies with gravel around them. Of course citrus is a given. (sorry getting carried away - I have 4 small citrus trees, a fig, a tropical hibiscus, 2 plumerias, and a stephanotis in my basement overwintering and waiting to go out if the temps would just settle down here )
I do know that the climate there is opposite to places like California where California has its "rainy season" getting ready to end soon (after the "gray May" / "June gloom" ) and Florida has its "rainy season" about to get started, where the dry season is during winter (when there are brushfires/wildfires).
LeftInTX
(25,343 posts)San Antonio, Texas
You can kill grass by putting newspaper on it and covering it with mulch.
You can also use (don't shoot me!!) Round Up, especially if it's Bermuda grass. Bermuda grass has roots that can be up to a foot deep, so it's hard to kill. It can also go summer dormant, but looks pretty ugly. Despite the name Bermuda grass is native to Africa. It's the turf of choice in the desert. It requires the same amt of water as St Augustine or Zoysia to look lush and green, but it can go dormant due to it's very deep root system. It is the turf of choice for most golf courses in the South West.
If they are trying to kill long established Bermuda simply by removing the sod, I don't know if it will work!
It has a deep root system; in drought situations with penetrable soil, the root system can grow to over 2 metres (6.6 ft) deep, though most of the root mass is less than 60 centimetres (24 in) under the surface.
BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)And the way they are cutting up the sod in the OP article, it makes me wonder if they are actually going to preserve and resell it elsewhere. I think they use the more expensive zoysia for the golf turf here but I expect most people are using some mix heavy on the perennial rye and fescue with Kentucky bluegrass in the mix. I have seen some had sod put down that promptly goes dormant and brown during the summer and i expect they didn't realize what the landscaper was giving them and how it requires quite a bit of water to establish and maintain in summer (particularly any that might be heavy with Kentucky blue and tall fescue).
I just had over 3" rain the past couple days (almost a month's worth) and have also had below normal temps this month, so the grass is loving it. Most here who try to "kill" grass to remove will just put a tarp over it and dig it up later.
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)will find drought-tolerant native perennials to use and there has been quite a bit of hybridization of them to get some nice flowering/foliage combos (e.g., many sages and agastaches- hummingbird favorites, the daisies like rubheckia (black-eyed susans), Echinacea (coneflowers), etc, and definitely the buddleias (butterfly bushes) and even the iteas (ninebark)).
Many of the plants here in my area often need the opposite to deal with periods of inundation and wet soil however, but xeriscaping them can actually be beneficial for drainage too.
I got some divisions of Rudbeckia laciniata (tall coneflowers) about 4 years ago and I don't think I have ever had a perennial that was as self-seeding as that! The birds like the dried seed-heads in late fall but those seeds... It is one of those wet-tolerant plants though. Most of these flowers are great butterfly plants.
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)This has been ongoing for some years now.
ugh...prefer drought tolerant plants, but since it's May gravel is about the only thing that will "survive"
Coventina
(27,120 posts)I'd rather they just left the natural desert floor, which releases heat at night.
But, most people don't like that natural look.
Mixed feelings...
Soil underneath rocks is fairly cool, but rocks themselves get very hot and release heat to surrounding vegetation.
Some of my worse weeds perform best around pavers...I lift up the paver and the soil is cool and moist and there's this happy runner growing in it. (I'm in San Antonio though, although we're hot and droughty, we're not desert)
Javaman
(62,530 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)like Vegas is near Lake Mead, which is now at record low levels.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,033 posts)both are near large lakes for that purpose of water access.
Hell... although L.A. is near the ocean, the drinking water mostly comes out of the mountains that are reliant on annual snowpack (along with some groundwater, although yearly I keep hearing calls for desalination plants).
Tommy Carcetti
(43,182 posts)...one of my first thoughts was, "How is there enough water for all these people and things?"
Swede
(33,247 posts)So I think it's a good idea.