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NYETNYET

(212 posts)
Mon May 9, 2022, 12:39 PM May 2022

THEY LIED UNDER OATH

They sat there, looked into the camera and lied to every American.

What are we going to do about it?

Does the leaker get whistleblower protection? Lying under oath is a crime. They just became the same as any pickpocket, shoplifter or worse.

They have no honor. Why are they still on the bench?

What are we going to do about it?

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Joenobody

(90 posts)
9. There is 0 chance
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:35 PM
May 2022

That anyone is going to be charged for lying about something that hadn't happened yet. This fantasy needs to stop.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
18. agreed, they can claim they meant it then and changed their minds
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:34 PM
May 2022

short of their directly saying 'when I was under other during the nomination, I lied' - there is absolutely no chance of anything sticking.

If there is no chance of it working, it's not worth spending the political capital. Tantrums don't help.

 

Joenobody

(90 posts)
20. Exactly
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:52 PM
May 2022

Statements made under oath aren't contracts and they don't replace free will. People change their minds. Beyond that, the question asked was hypothetical and wouldn't apply to a real case anyway. "I judged these details to be different than what I was asked about that day."

It's quixotic to even think about that path

usonian

(9,804 posts)
2. Bully gets away with everything until taken down. Short version: disbar these errand "boys".
Mon May 9, 2022, 12:46 PM
May 2022

Replying to "why the leak"
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16675718
Ginny, most likely, to:

Challenge America to charge these errand boys, sent by grocery clerks with perjury. Or not.
Challenge America to pass effective legislation so that the Extreme court can't make law. Or not.
Challenge Anonymous to blow up their secret society, where they swap black robes for their white ones. Or not.
Challenge the legal profession to F-ing disbar them for trying to back-date the Constitution to the time of the Inquisition.
Challenge the conjoining of state and a religion that says life begins at conception, not birth. Or not.

OK, enough of this.
DO YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE?
GET OUT THE F-ING VOTE AND THROW THEM ALL OUT.
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https://democraticunderground.com/100216380145

More at the link.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. The Biggest Guess Is That The Leaker Is A Conservative Or Member Of THe Court
Mon May 9, 2022, 12:59 PM
May 2022

who is trying to force the conservative judges to vote in favor of this ruling. My fave guess is Ginni.

So why would they need protection when trying to do harm?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. At the risk of sounding too dense, what are you referring to?
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

Am I behind are you talking about the SC leak or did something new happen

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
7. They dodged the truth
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:13 PM
May 2022

Hard to prove a lie when none said they wouldn't overturn Roe. Calling it precedent and then voting to overturn it would not exactly be forthcoming, but isn't a lie.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
19. Don't confuse me with the facts.
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:40 PM
May 2022

The phrase was written by Roy S. Durstine in a 1945 advertising publication referencing a client who rejected a survey's disastrous predictions in favor of his own opinion.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
8. All they have to say is they changed their minds
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:18 PM
May 2022

No way anyone could get a conviction, they just have to claim that is what they believed at the time and they have since changed their mind. Impossible to prove it did not happen that way. So you can not convict beyond a shadow of a doubt. Only way to convict them would be to find something they wrote or said at the time that was opposite of what they said in the Senate. And that is not happening

And no the leaker does not get whistleblower protection. To get whistleblower protection you must follow the proper chain laid out in the whistleblower law.

The Whistleblower Protection Act (WPA) explicitly protects disclosures to the Office of the Special Counsel and the Office of the Inspector General. Each executive agency has an Inspector General. The WPA also protects disclosures to Congress.


Not covered disclosures to the press

Plus you have to "whistleblow" at crime, a draft order is not a crime

Response to NYETNYET (Original post)

malaise

(269,004 posts)
14. Religion is a tool
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:09 PM
May 2022

Few of them take any oath seriously - ideology trumps religion every time.

Now you dare lie to a judge in court and see wat happens.
The system is beyond fucked up.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
15. Once approved there is nothing we can do, besides impeachment
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:12 PM
May 2022

and that isn't going to happen

so the answer to your question is, we will do nothing.

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
21. Who are the 5, or better yet who is the 1?
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:03 AM
May 2022

Which one of the 6 conservatives are they saying didn't lie?

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