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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTHEY LIED UNDER OATH
They sat there, looked into the camera and lied to every American.
What are we going to do about it?
Does the leaker get whistleblower protection? Lying under oath is a crime. They just became the same as any pickpocket, shoplifter or worse.
They have no honor. Why are they still on the bench?
What are we going to do about it?
2naSalit
(86,622 posts)No ifs, ands or buts.
Joenobody
(90 posts)That anyone is going to be charged for lying about something that hadn't happened yet. This fantasy needs to stop.
lame54
(35,290 posts)And nothing would be done about it
Amishman
(5,557 posts)short of their directly saying 'when I was under other during the nomination, I lied' - there is absolutely no chance of anything sticking.
If there is no chance of it working, it's not worth spending the political capital. Tantrums don't help.
Statements made under oath aren't contracts and they don't replace free will. People change their minds. Beyond that, the question asked was hypothetical and wouldn't apply to a real case anyway. "I judged these details to be different than what I was asked about that day."
It's quixotic to even think about that path
usonian
(9,804 posts)Replying to "why the leak"
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16675718
Ginny, most likely, to:
Challenge America to charge these errand boys, sent by grocery clerks with perjury. Or not.
Challenge America to pass effective legislation so that the Extreme court can't make law. Or not.
Challenge Anonymous to blow up their secret society, where they swap black robes for their white ones. Or not.
Challenge the legal profession to F-ing disbar them for trying to back-date the Constitution to the time of the Inquisition.
Challenge the conjoining of state and a religion that says life begins at conception, not birth. Or not.
OK, enough of this.
DO YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE?
GET OUT THE F-ING VOTE AND THROW THEM ALL OUT.
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https://democraticunderground.com/100216380145
More at the link.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)impeachment is the only remedy, and that is not going to happen.
Me.
(35,454 posts)who is trying to force the conservative judges to vote in favor of this ruling. My fave guess is Ginni.
So why would they need protection when trying to do harm?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Am I behind are you talking about the SC leak or did something new happen
RoeVWade
(200 posts)Not women.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Polybius
(15,417 posts)Hard to prove a lie when none said they wouldn't overturn Roe. Calling it precedent and then voting to overturn it would not exactly be forthcoming, but isn't a lie.
taxi
(1,896 posts)The phrase was written by Roy S. Durstine in a 1945 advertising publication referencing a client who rejected a survey's disastrous predictions in favor of his own opinion.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)No way anyone could get a conviction, they just have to claim that is what they believed at the time and they have since changed their mind. Impossible to prove it did not happen that way. So you can not convict beyond a shadow of a doubt. Only way to convict them would be to find something they wrote or said at the time that was opposite of what they said in the Senate. And that is not happening
And no the leaker does not get whistleblower protection. To get whistleblower protection you must follow the proper chain laid out in the whistleblower law.
The Whistleblower Protection Act (WPA) explicitly protects disclosures to the Office of the Special Counsel and the Office of the Inspector General. Each executive agency has an Inspector General. The WPA also protects disclosures to Congress.
Not covered disclosures to the press
Plus you have to "whistleblow" at crime, a draft order is not a crime
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Response to NYETNYET (Original post)
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malaise
(269,004 posts)Few of them take any oath seriously - ideology trumps religion every time.
Now you dare lie to a judge in court and see wat happens.
The system is beyond fucked up.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)and that isn't going to happen
so the answer to your question is, we will do nothing.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,243 posts)Polybius
(15,417 posts)Which one of the 6 conservatives are they saying didn't lie?