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Wouldn't a whole lot of men be really unhappy if birth control (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo May 2022 OP
If the men were held accountable...oh right...men. Srkdqltr May 2022 #1
+1 2naSalit May 2022 #3
There are responsible men. I've known some. nt leftyladyfrommo May 2022 #4
Real men are with women on this issue. LakeArenal May 2022 #2
Shallow and uneducated men Diamond_Dog May 2022 #5
Yes. I think a majority of men would be unhappy about it. MineralMan May 2022 #6
Without the man part in the laws many will not abide with it. Has to be part of the law. Srkdqltr May 2022 #7
:) There are! Many. After all, reproduction involves both sexes, Hortensis May 2022 #15
Some would become single parents bucolic_frolic May 2022 #8
Through the years slightlv May 2022 #9
Do women ever leave the toilet seat up? panader0 May 2022 #10
I salute you! slightlv May 2022 #11
watch, they won't outlaw condoms CrackityJones75 May 2022 #12
If we're going full-on Christo-fascist, vasectomies may be banned Greybnk48 May 2022 #13
I have the ultimate form of male contraception. roamer65 May 2022 #14

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
2. Real men are with women on this issue.
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:34 PM
May 2022

Remember, these politicians are not “will of the people” legislators.

Diamond_Dog

(31,999 posts)
5. Shallow and uneducated men
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

think it’s a show of manhood to father a bazillion kids

Mature men who love their partners are the opposite

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
6. Yes. I think a majority of men would be unhappy about it.
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:45 PM
May 2022

However, there are men who refuse to take responsibility for impregnating women, and some who seem to delight in it, whether they intend to be responsibly parents or not. Some men think it is their job to cause as many babies to be born as they possibly can.

Such men are dangerous. Very dangerous.

Srkdqltr

(6,290 posts)
7. Without the man part in the laws many will not abide with it. Has to be part of the law.
Mon May 9, 2022, 01:56 PM
May 2022

Why do there have to be laws for the woman without comparable laws for men?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) There are! Many. After all, reproduction involves both sexes,
Tue May 10, 2022, 07:22 PM
May 2022

and laws regarding contraception affect men as well as women. Griswold and subsequent protections were enacted to protect both men and women from being criminalized by illegal contraception, and from unwanted pregnancies.

This argument is not between men and women but between those men and women who are for individual reproductive rights and those who want government to force their choice on everyone.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
8. Some would become single parents
Mon May 9, 2022, 02:13 PM
May 2022

because their wives wore out from so many years of childbearing. And lets not forget the impact on single people and lgbtq. STD's run rampant.

slightlv

(2,801 posts)
9. Through the years
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:04 PM
May 2022

my husband and I have fought over various and sundry "normal" things... who left the toilet seat up and other such stupid stuff. But I have always been so grateful for the things for which he stood up for as a man. He stood for human rights. If someone was hurting, he did whatever needed to be done to soothe the hurt, no matter what it meant to him, personally. It may have been the last dollar he had in his billfold. It may have been the shirt off his back, literally, or his cup of coffee or the sandwich in his hand. He has walked beside me and behind me and my women friends. He has supported us through everything. I have never felt threatened by him or because of him.

Others have looked at him and thought I could have made so much better of a match. I didn't marry him because of his looks or his money making ability, even though I thought he was good looking and reminded me of John Hartford. I married him because he was the only man who engaged my brain and kept me intellectually stimulated. It hasn't always been easy, and truthfully, ended up with me being the larger breadwinner for the family. That could have led to ego problems and family violence, but it didn't because it's so not in his nature. We approached everything in life as "partners in crime" (gryn), even this aging thing; which is by far one of the hardest experiences we're going through. We look at all the backwards steps the U.S. is taking, at all the causes we fought for when we were younger being shredded and hold each other through the tears and wonder what in the hell we can do about it at our age now other than scream into the abyss. It's like living in a Stephen King novel on steroids. Vote, yeah, sure... of course. But while we both still own the rose colored glasses of our younger years, we no longer wear them. In so many ways I won't enumerate, the Democratic party we supported all these decades (and will continue to support) has let us down. If we had the money to do so, he would do as this old lady of his wishes, and move on to greener pastures someplace. But it seems like the entire world has gone insane.

One thing I do know for certain, tho... despite a plethora of adolescent men-children out there who can't talk and chew bubblegum at the same time, I knew a diamond in the rough when I saw it and made the match of a life time. I was blessed and continue to be so. As much as we scream at these idiot incels and RWNJs, and rightly so, we must never forget there are good men out there; responsible men who are on our side, and always let them know we celebrate them as much as we detest the patriot nut jobs (even tho I'm sure our guys know it).






panader0

(25,816 posts)
10. Do women ever leave the toilet seat up?
Mon May 9, 2022, 03:49 PM
May 2022

As a man, I always put the seat down. Long ago, a girlfriend "fell in" when I left it up.
At Jeannie's age now, if she fell in, it would be serious, so I am fastidious about toilet etiquette.

slightlv

(2,801 posts)
11. I salute you!
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:30 PM
May 2022

I keep telling my dude it would be a major catastrophe for me to fall in, with my back and one replaced hip. He's pretty good... but still... we go thru the 'forgetting'...

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. I have the ultimate form of male contraception.
Tue May 10, 2022, 07:05 PM
May 2022

I’m gay.

Lol.

That said, I favor unfettered abortion on demand and free contraceptives to ANYONE who wants desires them.

This planet desperately needs human population reduction.

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